Subject: And the point is?
What exactly is the point of this website. To disriminate against others different to yourself ? That's racsim. I don't think people would be too happy if you made a website called 'black people are gay' or 'disabled people are gay'., do you? As for your favourite bands, JJ72 is one of them. If it wasn't for Nirvana, JJ72 wouldn't exist. The singer has actually said that after the first time he heard Nirvana he just had to learn how to play guitar. And making fun of Kurt because he killed himself due to manic deppresion is bellow the belt. What's next, making fun of Joey Rammone because he died of cancer ? You obviously don't have much of a life, seeing as you must have spent a hell of a lot of time doing the site. Don't even put Nirvana in the same class as slipknot, in my opinion slipknot are just a heavy racket, but Nirvana made quality music and 1 the 5 best selling albums of all time. And as for all the little fucks who agree with the twats that made this site, you are so pathetic. If all you can be is ignorant then so be it. That's just degrading yourself. Just for the record, I'm what you would call a mosher, and as I write this I am listening, to one of your favourite bands Blink 182, and I have over half of your favourite bands albums. So surley if a mosher listens to your music, then that must make you a mosher too ? So Edr43, when you 'kill all moshers, why don't you start a racial shooting spree and kill all black people disabled people, blondes and Jews. Mabey that would make you feel as if you have done something with your life. So why don't all you 'mosher haters' turn your hate to people who actually are bad for the world, like the IRA or something. Find something to do with your life and FUCKING GROW UP!!!!!!!!
slut kiss girl
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From: "Rachel Ford"
Subject: Blank
ok listen up.
Kurt Cobain was a god, not only is he the sexiest person in the history of music but he was also a talented and loving man. He loved his wife and his daughter!
What right have u to go around and say things about a man that u dont even know, he was a hero 2 many of us. Kurt Cobain with live on in all of us no matter how much u put him down.
Moshers, Goths, Witches etc are just as good as u or maybe even better. We r just like u really the only difference is, is that we look different and we listen to different music. why is that such a big problem 4 u?!?!?!?
oh and another thing............. why dont u just piss off back to where eva u fucking came from, u stupid mother fucking whore!!!!
kill u later,
Luv Rach.
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From: John Kitzman
Subject: please read this
Dr. Evil, I would just like to say that i am a bit disappointed with the way that you have unfairly stereotyped all people that belong to the group of society that you seem to call "moshers". Although I have never heard them categorized as that, you can call them anything you want. You also said that the people who are in to this kind of music are all extremely depressed and hate everything. I don't know how you could say that. You yourself listen to Pink Floyd, The Wall is one of the most depressing albums I own. It is very strange to me that you seem to be so anti rebellion when you also say that you like The Beatles. In their time The Beatles were seen as a major rebellious force. Also why are you so superficial that you must make a judgment about whether a person will be a productive member of society based on the way they dress. The way that a person dresses is a very personal thing and it isn't my place or your place to make a judgment on whether they are "gay" or not. PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK. from, John P.S. Is this site a joke?
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From: [email protected]
Subject: Your pathetic, shallow, disrespectful site
There are SO many things I would love to bitch about on your site, but life isn't long enough... Rock, metal, grunge, punk and the alternative styles are SO much better than the pop crap with lyrics of such pusillanimity it makes me sick! I have no idea what you classify as good music, but I dont care, I think alternative styles had a different, personal meaning for every listener. Insulting bands who are here and alive, is remotely OK, but to insult and mock the dead - its cowardice! Personally, I believe Courtney killed Kurt, she should have killed the Teletubbies too, but not everyone can be satisfied, as obviously Kurt's murder made you happy, in a round about way, Kurt made you happy, like he made moshers happy, even you have to thank him! Your site looks very WWF, which to me is damned scary! I think that deep inside you respect alternatives and wish you had the guts and spirit to turn against the tide, but you DON'T, so instead you fight them, and portray them in a bad light...it's stupid. What's so great about being "normal"(like normal even exists!) I wont stoop to your sad, low level, because I have self-respect and intelligence, something you seem to lack... Your site is so empty and lifeless, flat and dull, is it something you can honestly be proud of creating? I wouldnt think anyone would be proud of creating mindless rambling and bitching, but another point is: If you hate alternative styles so much, why go to all the effort of finding all that "information" on the bands? I bet you enjoyed it, going on all the alernative sites, listening to the albums online, moshing around your PC while dressed in Nike, Kickers and Pods. I have more of my life to lead now, Ive wasted more than enought time on you, I hope that somewhere in your mind Ive planted a seed...you will know the flower, its tender age in bloom,... You will not burn out, as to burn out, you have to be lit, your small dirty mark online will soon fade away, and be forgotten by the unfortunate souls to visit it. Deatheternally
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From: "Army Man"
Subject: blank
ok listen up you little shit... FUCK OFF. i hope you get your gay ass ran over by a car. ooooo slipknot sux? is that what you think? yeah right. if slipknot sux than what do you consider Blink 182? they sold out real fast. they are just a boy band with guitars. And to say that LINKIN PARK are pussies? look at blink 182.... they are bigger pussies than Park. YOU ARE ONE BIG FAG. why don't you go put on some old shitty boy band cd and paint your nails or something. i just hope you go up to a mosher and try to do something to him and he pulls a gun on you ass and shoots.
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From: "col ford"
Subject: I Am A Fan...
I am a fan of mosh music , and i had a good laugh at your "site" . , but i have one question. Are you a nazi or something ? its just that hitler had this same aversion to minorities as you do , and it seems that you cant handle the fact that there are people out there who think differently to you do , and this site that shows off your hatred to people just looks , well dumb to the rest of us , and it would appear to me that you have some severe issues . i mean , how long must you have taken making this site ? too long . So while normal , adjusted people (moshers) who actually do stuff with their lives go on with living , maybe you should lay off and actually accept people for who they are . If not i'll probably see you on America's most wanted or something like that.
Get a life , dude.
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From: kay marshall
Subject: wot a lot of fuckin balls
Wow shit or wot! your site if filled with the most bollocks, me bein a "MOSHER" readin sum of the shit on the site and sum of the stuff on the message bored i was like shit sum people really thinks this! where the hell did ya get that moshers shit on cars and stuff, AND....u need 2 get a life koz VH1 is fuckin bollocks!!! while i was readin sum of the bullshit on the site i found it so funny(i just wish i was high while i was readin it), but oh well sum 1 on this sad little planet has got 2 keep us all entertained, and u need 2 open ya eyes and c that i was laughtin at u not with u when i was readin ya shit koz i couldnt belive that sum1 could get as sad as 2 make a web site call "Moshers r gay" u must be a lonely man to watch VH1 and spend all ya time doin a site like this....but thanks n e way 4 givein me a laught! keep moshin from the *uk Maggot*
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From: "Peter Yarwood"
Subject: ... hmmm...
You claim to despise Moshers, and yet you built an entire (quite impressive) web page to them. True it appears as though your slagging them off but beneath it all i think that you are envious of them... yes that sounds strange, but really, think about it this way. A guy claims to hate gays, but realy he wishes he had enough guts and strength to admit that he is a closet case himself... in this way you seem to hate Moshers but it's probable you're envious of Moshers who are able to go against parental rule (unlike yourselves) You're jealous of thier freedom. Fair enough you may not like the music they listen to, but the principle of free choice is the same. Just you be careful next time your Granny is round at your house for a Sunday meal... As you're sat their in your best shirt and tie, bored out of your ass, watch out you don't suddenly turn round and start screaming about how opressed you feel. It'll happen. It always does.
You post a picture of Hitler as a Slipknot fan, how can you relate that at all? No mosher is Evil enough to murder several million innocent Jews. Most are peaceful people that enjoy the music they listen to. Isn't that what music is about? Listening to something that appeals to you and speaks to you. Music is there for enjoyment and it is up to the individual as to what they listen to. You see, Moshers arn't the dangerous predjuciced ones. You are. That article you posted of a boy being beaten up due to his choice of music is typical of that. He did nothing wrong, except listened to what he liked. Just as the people beat him up do. They listen to the music they like, do they get fucked over? do they hell.
Papa Roach sing about cutting yourself, so fucking what? they sing about the truth. People do do that to themselves... for whatever reason that might be, and i know people who find that music can help them. It's all about making yourself feel better and that is what it does. As for the 100 people that turned up for thier video, they were fans who came from wherever due to a post on their web site. They were true fans and some people had to be turned away from the set as there were too many of them. Get your facts before you try arguing with people who know better than you. You'll only look dumb in the end. Linkin' Park dont swear... so what? Swearing isn't everything and it doesn't make a song. it's expressionistic. As for Limp Bizkit, yeah they sold out. Not because suddenly they're popular, but because they changed their style of music in order to sell those records. I walk past a Mc Donalds, outside i see swarms of ten year olds, dressed in Adidas, screaming "Limp Bizkit Rocks". But it's just an image, sold to the children. In their Walkmans they still have dance music, or Eminiem. He swears all the time. His music still sucks and lacks artistic merit. Marilyn Manson may make shite music (Not what i believe, but i wouldn't buy his stuff) but if you listen to him speak he is a very intelligent man. He realises that image is what sells, alongside the music. Green Day havent changed their type of music, they just suck anyways.
As for the three chords that Moshers are apparently only capable of, please don't compare Mosh bands to Oasis. Not even you should be able to go so low. Have you ever listened to so-called- Mosh bands play? I think not otherwise you would heve an educated opinion and that could be dangerous...
Goths don't hang around grave yards. They don't kill things for fun. Holy water won't keep them at bay, just a bright coloured spots shirt will do. As you obviosly don't know any, how can you slate them? Fools.
Aside from your dumbass views that are totally unfounded and lack evidence, i thought you're page was pretty amusing... best laugh that i've had in ages. I always find it more satisfying to laugh and point at the ignorant... :) Oh well, you keep on writing this shit. At least i know where to come when i'm down and need a laugh...
All my apathy,
Somewhat Damaged xXxXx
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From: "Adi Ofir"
Subject: Re:
yeah that guy eh? first of all, the FBI wouldnt just GIVE you a copy of the real letter. second of all, there are shitloads of sites like yours. what makes you think of ALL the sites they could go to, they'd pick yours? i know you made up that crap yourself, cause it sounds like something you would write after reading everything else on your site... of and you screwed up by the way.. "i dont know if its the cocaine talking.." it was herion in his veins.
and yeah there was another letter but courtney love has it and wont let anyone read it.. did you go to the site? http://www.thegrid.net/tomgrant/index.html
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From: "adi ofir"
Subject: Blank
you obviously know nothing about it and wouldn't understand what was put into Nirvana's music. i'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you, but for fucks sake, dont you have anything better to put on your website. you say how nevermind was such a depressing album, but thats how you interpret it. personally, Bleach and In Utero are my favourite albums. anyhow, what i think is depressing is how you have that nonesence about them on your site. you jsut dont like how Nevermind got so popular. well get over it. "..Kurt had a lot of power with him, being a spokes person for generation x.." you think he asked for that?? you think he planned it? but anyhow, people can say a lot, but hell.. he wasn't the least bit an asshole. have some fucking respect. but you completely contradict yourself. you say moshers are gay, but guess what. youre GAY too then. people mosh at blink 182 concerts hun. theres a lot more to criticize about blink than Nirvana. and another thing. REM is one of the greatest bands ever. big shit if micheal stipe is gay? he makes more money than most us, and is one of the most respected musicians.and do your site a favour and check this site out http://64.4.20.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=ed44e901afebb6af85b9c14345c1e95a&lat=991603179&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ethegrid%2enet%2ftomgrant%2findex%2ehtml Kurt didnt kill himself.. its one thing to talk shit about a band, its another to poke fun at their death. thats just disgusting.
