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Posted to alt.support.menopause
by Pat Kight <[email protected]>
When the subject of over-the-counter "menopause" supplements comes up here (as it often does), some of us usually mention our wariness over the fact that, in the US, these products have virtually no quality control - there's no way of knowing whether that jar of cream or pills contains what it says it contains, or in what quantities, which makes self-medication with these products a fairly risky proposition. I was skimming through one of the chats on susanlovemd.com and came across a reference to a new service intended to rectify that problem: http://www.consumerlab.com/
"ConsumerLab.com LLC ("CL") provides independent test results and information to help consumers and healthcare professionals evaluate health, wellness, and nutrition products ... "They look legit; their management staff has solid credentials. So far, the list of product types they've tested is fairly short, but they have plans for more - evidently "phytoestrogen" testing is in the works right now. My only beef is that you have to buy a subscription to get the complete product reports. Still, what's on their Web site is highly informative. |
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from http://www.thelancet.com/newlancet/reg/issues/vol355no9198/review134.html
(dead link so go to www.lancet.com
and search on <herb-drug interactions> Free registration required.)
Herb-drug interactions Adriane Fugh-Berman Lancet 2000; 355: 134-38 George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences, Department of Health Care Sciences, 2150 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW 2B-417, Washington, DC 20037, USA (A Fugh-Berman MD) (e-mail: [email protected]) Source
and extent of review
Concurrent use of herbs may mimic, magnify, or oppose the effect of drugs. Plausible cases of herb-drug interactions include: bleeding when warfarin is combined with ginkgo (Ginkgo biloba), garlic (Allium sativum), dong quai (Angelica sinensis), or danshen (Salvia miltiorrhiza); mild serotonin syndrome in patients who mix St John's wort (Hypericum perforatum) with serotonin-reuptake inhibitors; decreased bioavailability of digoxin, theophylline, cyclosporin, and phenprocoumon when these drugs are combined with St John's wort; induction of mania in depressed patients who mix antidepressants and Panax ginseng; exacerbation of extrapyramidal effects with neuroleptic drugs and betel nut (Areca catechu); increased risk of hypertension when tricyclic antidepressants are combined with yohimbine (Pausinystalia yohimbe); potentiation of oral and topical corticosteroids by liquorice (Glycyrrhiza glabra); decreased blood concentrations of prednisolone when taken with the Chinese herbal product xaio chai hu tang (sho-saiko-to); and decreased concentrations of phenytoin when combined with the Ayurvedic syrup shankhapushpi. Anthranoid-containing plants (including senna [Cassia senna] and cascara [Rhamnus purshiana]) and soluble fibres (including guar gum and psyllium) can decrease the absorption of drugs. Many reports of herb-drug interactions are sketchy and lack laboratory analysis of suspect preparations. Health-care practitioners should caution patients against mixing herbs and pharmaceutical drugs.
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http://chili.rt66.com/hrbmoore/ManualsMM/HerbMedContra1.txt Synergistic and iatrogenic potentials when certain herbs are used concurrent with medical treatment or medical health care.Copyright 1995 by Michael Moore. Use it, share it, just don't sell it or change it in any way (unless you get my permission) THE REASON FOR THIS
LIST:
A list of side-effects written by most herbalists will deal with side effects from over-dosage or adulteration, and will seldom consider the implications for drug or procedural medicine. They don't understand MEDICINE. I feel fairly secure in both worlds, so this list of potential synergies and contraindications is meant to honor BOTH approaches. I am talking strictly to the working practitioner; these are PRACTICAL concerns, not theoretical ones. THE FOCUS OF THIS LIST:
PHILOSOPHICAL CONSIDERATIONS: If you are used to viewing biologically active agents as analogs to drugs, you need to suspend those standards when dealing with most herb preparations. Some of these plants CAN be reduced to the pharmacology of specific constituents, and they are so noted. The majority of potential reactions occur when an herb STIMULATES metabolic processes that are already in an excited state. The usual models of drug toxicology will fail to predict such reactions; these are NOT, strictly speaking, drug reactions, but often predictable idiopathic synergies. Predictable, that is, if you are willing to view most herbs as multi-systemic wholistic medicines, offering a "profile" of effects that can help OR aggravate, depending on the PERSON using them. Herbs should be free of side effects within their therapeutic window and when used by a person whose constitution is complimented, not antagonized by the herbs. Whether or not you accept any value to Botanical Medicine, this is Conventional Wisdom amongst herbalists. Side effects from herbs are unwanted, both by herbalists wishing to strengthen, not denigrate homeostasis, and by skeptics who doubt any value to herbs except from placebo or accidental drug effects. On the other hand, a careful evaluation of potential drug therapy starts with the basic understanding that drugs HAVE side effects at the proper dose, and the value must be weighed against the detriment. Most possible problems I have listed will only occur in potentiated states, and may be subtle enough to be ignored by Believers (Don't be so defensive!), magnified totally out of proportion by Skeptics (Don't be so judgmental!). We all tend to be too isolated in our peer groups, always preaching to our particular choir. Some physicians feel any self-treatment with biologically active agents is dangerous. Many people consider this either professional arrogance or the attempt to stifle competition. I have nearly always observed the attitude to derive from a very real concern; a physician's biochemical tools are drugs. By extension, docs may rightly presume that any agent capable of promoting change probably has similar potential for side effects. Carried to an irrational extreme, some medical folks feel that anything WITHOUT potential side effects is quackery. This, of course, leaves any alternative approach in a Catch-22 bind. There is little intrinsic danger in using herbs, since few have the potential for DRUG side effects. The side effects are usually idiosyncratic or idiopathic, and not predictable by drug standards. This brings me back to why I have assembled this list. NOTES: [1] Some of these plants are illegal, not from the pseudo-scientific rationale of law-inforcement (except Cannabis and Lophophora) but for the practical legality that THEY AREN'T SAFE. Nonetheless they still find their way into personal use. I have developed the libertarian attitude that permeated 19th and early 20th century pharmacy: "Let them take what they want to...it's a Free Country. If they don't know any better, let's thin the herd!". We, however, have a generation or two of people that EXPECT a warning label on everything, and that have come to doubt common sense. Of course many dangers in modern life do not warn by taste, smell or appearance...radiation, pollution, etc. Given this, plant drugs like Yohimbe and even Ma Huang should, in my opinion, not be available in the same marketplace as Peppermint and Sarsaparilla. But they are. [2] Some of these herbs are only encountered in "ethnic" use, but, with most ethnic groups suffering diminished coherence of tradition, a Wise Woman or folk herbalist may not be around to give appropriate advice. [3] A few of these herbs are seldom encountered in the herb trade but rather are wildcrafted and used inappropriately. Some of this may be MY fault, since I write about the use of plants that are low-dosage botanicals and presume that the reader has Common Sense...not always a reality. Many of us distrust ANY authoritative limits...this anti-author- itarianism may be encountered in the way some people use even sensible herb books. [4] Herbal Cure-Alls and thinly-veiled Phytopharmaceuticals are a growing part of the health-food industry. In Europe they are usually dispensed under medical supervision; they have no place in American Standard Practice but instead have entered the alternative health marketplace as "Herbs". They are more concentrated, more refined, have little of the biochemical buffering or "fuzz" that whole plants offer, and are NOT metabolic tonics but substances intended for specific subclinical pathologies...Little Drugs if you will. Their use is intended for conditions that have been medically diagnosed...not for self-treatment based upon sometimes inaccurate self-diagnosis. It's one thing to take aspirin for a headache or use a bitter to trigger improved upper digestive function. It's another thing to take proven immunostimulant or anti- oxidant substances (even if derived from plants) if based on "I get sick a lot" or "I bet my liver needs cleansing". Not only is this an entirely new realm of potential iatrogenesis, but it has a corruptive influence by my way of thinking. It centralizes the MARKETING of herbs into the hands of a few, but without offering guide- lines for DIAGNOSIS. And it seduces folks from the sensible heart of self-treatment...self-knowledge. One-size-fits-all is not self-empowerment TABLE OF CONTENTS
note: to see the above lists, visit the URL above |
http://www.rxlist.com/alternative.htm
This more recent section of the excellent drug information site contains Herbal FAQ's and Chinese Herbal FAQ's. It is under expansion and contains the following disclaimer: RxList monographs for alternative products have been carefully prepared using the current applicable literature. While these documents resemble the RxList monographs for prescription drug products they differ in the following ways:
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Also
on the RxList site at http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/alt/china_warn.htm
is the following
Warning: Chinese Medicinal Formulas There are many different brands of Chinese medicinal formulas and, as with medicinal herbs, care should be taken with purchasing. Incorrectly labeled products and/or the presence of contaminants, adulterations, or substitutions have all been reported in conjunction with Chinese medicinal formulas. Contaminants such as heavy metals and/or substitutions with pharmaceutical drugs (over the counter and prescription) are a serious health hazard.(To see the list published by the AAOM ( along with possible side effects from adulterants) go to the URL above) Tishy |
http://www.ama-assn.org/sci-pubs/journals/archive/fami/vol_7/no_6/fsa8005.htm
A Review of 12 Commonly Used Medicinal Herbs MaryAnn O'Hara, MD, MSt; David Kiefer, MD; Kim Farrell, MD; Kathi Kemper, MD, MPH A large and increasing number of patients use medicinal herbs or seek the advice of their physician regarding their use. More than one third of Americans use herbs for health purposes, yet patients (and physicians) often lack accurate information about the safety and efficacy of herbal remedies. Burgeoning interest in medicinal herbs has increased scientific scrutiny of their therapeutic potential and safety, thereby providing physicians with data to help patients make wise decisions about their use. This article provides a review of the data on 12 of the most commonly used herbs in the United States (chamomile, echinacea, feverfew, garlic, ginger, gingko,ginseng, goldenseal, milkthistle, goldenseal, St John's wort, saw palmetto, valerian). In addition, we provide practical information and guidelines for the judicious use of medicinal herbs.Arch Fam Med. 1998;7:523-536 |
http://sunsite.unc.edu/herbmed/mediherb.html
Medicinal herb FAQ All you ever wanted to know - and ask on a newsgroup - more often than once a month - about medicinal herbs. A FAQ for alt.folklore.herbs and the medicinal herblist. |
http://www.sunsite.unc.edu/pfaf/D_search.html
Plants For A Future - Database Search The Field, Penpol, Lostwithiel, Cornwall, PL22 0NG, England Either:
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There is another comprehensive
medical plant database at http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke/
(ARS is the US Agricultural Research Service. Also on this site is
a minicourse on Medical Botany
Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical
Databases
: Do not consult these databases unless you agree not to hold the compilers or the USDA liable for any errors or omissions. Data were gathered rather randomly from the literature on economic plants, none of which will ever be completely known phytochemically. These data were compiled by human beings, mostly Jim Duke and Stephen Beckstrom-Sternberg, from published, or rarely, personally communicated sources by human beings. To err is human! For any serious studies, values, especially deviant values, need to be rechecked with original sources. Neither the compilers nor the USDA recommend self diagnosis or self medication; the compilers do urge serious studies of herbal alternatives, believing that in many cases, the herbal alternative may contain several synergistic compounds that will, in fact, do what empirical trials have suggested, as recorded in the folklore (See ETHNOBOTANY database). Where these biologically active compounds occur in the edible portions of long established food species, we could be dealing with promising "food farmacy" alternatives. Synergies often double the rates of biological activities, but sometimes increase them an order of magnitude or two or more. Plants usually contain synergistic suites of phytoprotective chemicals which are often responsible for their medicinal uses as well. Evolution would favor synergies and disfavor antagonisms in such suites of compounds. If we have learned anything in the preparation of this database, it is that the levels of biologically active compounds vary widely, often one or two, sometimes more orders of magnitude. An increase in one compound from a suite of compounds is usually compensated for by a decrease in another compound(s). All plants, like all animals, contain toxins and carcinogens. Even commonly ingested food plants, like peanuts, can be fatally allergic to sensitive people. |
For peer-reviewed
information and the science on herbs, check out the information available
from the American Botanical Council at www.herbalgram.org.
They have a very rich collection of books on many heral topics that apparently
you can use with some credibility.
There is no specific book on vitex, though other specific books on botanicals are listed. But there are many books on rainforest herbs, ethnobotany, and herb resources in general. Phone for information: USA -Texas 1-512-331-8868 or email for customer service on ordering books at [email protected]. This is not meant to be an advertisement, but rather an information source for educational materials on herbs and botanicals. BTW: The herbal books listed under "Women's Topics" are: The Complete Woman's
Herbal - McIntyre $25
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I attended a CEU course
on herbs last week and the speaker discussed since plants were immobile
that they had to develop defense mechanisms within themselves, which was
his reason why some plants contain certain types of chemicals. So this
does not make it such a stretch to that other speculation we read where
the "birth-control" properties found in plants were put there by the plants
to cut down on the animal grazing population, as a plant protective device.
So this leads to the speculation that basically these self-created "poisons" or deterrents in these plants were an attempt to control other species, and not necessarily be viewed as a nutrient source or a commonly ingested daily item for animal consumption. Which is why herbal medicaments would need to be viewed with respect, and their use not just for wholesale enjoyment or recreational experimentation. What about the reports of lowered sperm counts in male marijuana users? Why are reproductive control hormones found in plants? What use do they serve the plant? And finally not by way of an advertisement, but for information only there is a non-profit educational group called the American Botanical Council which produces a catalogue of books on herbs that have met their criteria for efficacy. Dr. Varro Tyler is on their Board of Directors. They publish their book catalog at www.herbalgram.org They do not sell herbal products. And they do have translations of the German Commission E Monographs. Here is their blurb about the HerbalGram: The HerbalGram is a scientific, peer reviewed, quarterly publication that includes feature length articles, research reviews, conference reports, and book reviews. The focus is on herbs and medicinal plants, the history of their use, ethnobotany, modern clinical research that confirms historical usage and legal and regulatory developments. The mission and goals of the American Botanical Council are to educate the public about beneficial herbs and plants and to promote the safe and effective use of medicinal plants by: ....disseminating responsible, scientific information on herbs, and to .......contribute information to professional and scientific literature that helps establish accurate, credible toxicological and pharmacological data on numerous types of plants and plant materials ....... General information
can be obtained at [email protected]
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http://www.ti.ubc.ca/pages/letter25.htm
The therapeutics intitiative newsletter no 25 <Herbal Medicines: An Evidence Based Look> is worth reading, unfortunately they do not cover the main herbs currently being promoted by some for menopause. Kathryn |
Note:This site is no
longer free, as it was when originally placed here. However, if you are
willing to pay for it, it is still a reliable and very worthwhile resource
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http://www.tnp.com/tnp.asp?file=howto
Drug Interactions A–Z: Some natural substances might be interacting with your medications. If you're taking prescription or over-the-counter medicines, check here for important information on drug-herb and drug-supplement interactions. |