In Raven's first post, she asks the group if it is serious. Let us remember this post, if someone should ask "what reason does the group have to lie about Blackbane's behavior?". The answer is simple - bad blood between Raven and most of the rest of regulars in the group. Raven hears the word "magic", and wonders if those claiming to be capable of it, are crazy. Time for a little common sense, now. If someone asks you if you are crazy, ranting at them isn't going to convince anyone that you are sane. Ignoring them or explaining yourself calmly, if the situation calls for it, are effective - but noone was to try either of these two, for some months.
An outsider encountering the group at that time, who had thought that Wiccans were a pack of raving lunatics, would probably have felt that his suspicions had been confirmed by the responses. That much having been said, I would disagree with Raven's assertion that her opinions on these subjects, are clearly and certainly correct. What makes her so absolutely sure, for example, that Aphrodite isn't real?
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YOU ARE NO WITCH Author: Raven BlackBaneDate: 1997/01/08 Forum: alt.religion.wicca more headers author posting history _________________________________________________________________ ************************************************************************ * * * WARNING THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS ANTI-WICCA REMARKS * * ------------------------------------------------- * * * * DO NOT READ IF ANTI-WICCA STATEMENTS OFFEND YOU * * READ AT YOUR OWN RISK * * since you have been warned and you elect to read * * MY opinion on this subject/religion, you wave all * * rights to complain or take ANY action against me * * * * If I have a religion it would be the Blue Ribbon * * of the 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech * * * * Again the following contains anti-wicca remarks * * It IS on topic for this Group, though negative in * * nature, this Group is the best choice since there * * is no group called alt.religion.anti.wicca * * and hence I have no place to post my remarks * * * * I have the right to speak my peace; You have the * * right NOT to read if you so elect * * * * These are my mad ravings not those of my site or * * provider. Since you have been told in advance * * of the subject matter, don't go crying to them * * * ************************************************************************ Depending on your news reader, the text will follow after several pages. I want you to have time to think about the above banner. This is a natural pause to give you the time to just delete this article and move on. If anti-wicca remarks offend you PLEASE just move on. Go on,; Vamouse with you little critter. ************************************************************* * O.K. then; you read the banner * * you had your chance! * * and like a stupid witch you blew it * ************************************************************* Seriously, are you folks for real? Does dancing nude under a full moon in your backyard really turn you on? Are all thruster working up there, or is everyone ready for the rubber farm? I mean come on be for real, chanting to a tree or a rock while yapping to invisible god(dess) that is/are not there in the pitch black dark doesn't seem all that normal to me. KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK, hello anybody up there or is Mr. Gray-Matter on vacation. I have NO religion short of the 1st Amendment, not Christian nor Satanic or Jewish or any other. So don't take this as some religious evangelist coming on to you folks. Nor is this a flame bait to freak you out. No in fact, I'm getting one hell of a good laugh out of reading this group. So much so I would like to know where in the Northern Virginia Area I can walk into one of your mentally disturbed Wicca stores so I can have a bursting good laugh looking at all your want-to-be-a-witch stuff. You know: the oils and candles and yes those "jet powered brooms"; I gotta have one of those; always wanted to go to the moon on one of them. Sit back and look at yourself. Does all this traditional ranting and raving type rituals really obtain any end result? Does the boggy man really wuussshh out of your pentagram and vanish over the horizon on some unknown mission and destination. This is pathetic, you folks need some real mental help here. You know living in some sort of fantasy is not healthy. Don't you think it's time you permently ground yourselves. Trust me, those god(dess) you THINK are out there [really they ain't] will not mind if you just leave them in peace and quit bugging them. Have you ever walked down the street and seen one of them homeless folks ranting and raving to themselves or to some invisible buddy and you think the poor fellow has lost it. Take a good hard look in the mirror and I will assure you in there glazing back is that same poor old fellow. Yup, got such a good hard laugh at how many of this Earth's population has moved on to that great Wacco Farm I just had to get "To Ride A Silver Broomstick" by Silver RavenWolf and read on. Yeah, even picked me out a nice name that you folks would just love "Raven BlackBane". Well anyhow (am I raving on?; geezz thought you were use to this; you are ain't you? I mean raving at the moon seems all to normal for you) I read the book from front to back and then had to go to the Emergency room as my laughter ruptured my spleen. In fact I should have started from the end of the book which lists several Wicca contacts; Ohm yeah all American On Line. Well golly-be that explains it all right there. Every one knows that only folks from Saint Elisabeth uses AOL. I give the book only one good mark; the witch (I guess) on the front cover ain't all that bad looking. But if you really look at her, notice how sadly lost she appears. Her eyes glazing endlessly in a dark void only lit by the full moon in hopes of finding something that just never is there (and never will you freaks from some strange circus). Yup, this poor old lonely witch must be color blind as her broom sure as hell ain't silver. Who ever she has been milking has really dragged her t**s down to her hip; maybe that's why she is so sad. Now going on to the next figure/picture (page xiv); what the h**l is this; witches were uniforms and metals; looks like a bl***y Russian outfit. Well the other figures are just as bad. I notice the one on page 276. Women like "PAM"s; ain't PAM a name of a girl? If girls like things called PAM doesn't this figure have some sub-mental meaning like queer. Whatever. Look the fact is, Wicca (which should be WACCO) is for the mental disturbed; folks that just have failed to get a true grasp on reality and some how let it split through their oily hands. What is "Merry Meet" and "Harm none, do as you please" (remember telling my sysop how peed-off you are about this is post is harming me so don't be a hippocrit since I am doing as I please by smashing the bloody truthful reality in your face some what harshly is not harming you). O.K., this is how I see it all. You know this all a bunch of (deleted). I am giving you the beniffit of the doubt and assume that your candles are all lit in the right places. It sort of a Dungeon and Dragon type of thing, you have your fun, do your dance and then leave knowing it was all in fun and excitement knowing full well that there is no such things as Aphrodite, Aradia, Arianrhod, or them watch towers buggers. You know full well that amulets, herbs, and spells will not protect you but rather resort to mace or a gun if harm comes by. You telling me a stupid amulet will ward off some Ape looking thief. Yea right, he'll snatch it right out of your hand and smack you up sine the head with that stone. Now I'll agree herbs will (might) heal you since most median is based on such. No crystal balls will tell you nothing that ain't already in your sick head. And just why the hEEl is it called web weaving? I call it one psycho hunting down another. Yea the one I like the most is "The book of shadows", man now that gets my wilily just will-lying. I mean I am so scared that my shaking hands can make really good marteenies. Don't tell me you have skeletons in them there book partner. That fact is YOU AIN'T NO WITCH; ifen yous was you would not drop the word "Witch" from "Witchcraft". Which by the way reminds me when I first heard the words "The Craft" I tghthought that had something to do with "WarCraft" Yup, watched the movie called "The Craft". When you can start flying around and make clouds and wind come from blue sky and shake the earth and make ex-boy friends think your some other witch that he likes; till you can do REAL Magic(k) like summons REAL demons or other boggy man from the earth or ground or what not, then I will continue to view you as folks that have one major mental problem who needs to see the shrink (yet just another witch I guess, ... witch doctor ...). Well in passing; I fear not your hex for mine is stronger. Hum., now I see why men give women diamonds; according to witchcraft it aids in healing the mental scr**ed up. mm BTW (hum that's By The Way) are there any REAL WITCHes out there? You know, that can do real magic that has real results (ie., the boggy man does fly out of the pentagram and does go on a known mission to a known destination). Want-ta-be fakes need not answer.