Here is the second flamewar that Raven Blackbane found herself in, in all of its infantile glory. There is no way to make this look like a serious discussion, and I'm not even going to try. In one of the posts here, you will see one of the early examples of a post offered as an illustration for one of alt.religion.wicca's pet conspiracy theories. While Raven states that she is a woman - one woman - the group tries to maintain that Raven is a collaborative effort. Initially, there was the argument that Raven was a pair of teenage boys, but after Loki claimed to have spoken with a young woman on the phone, the claim changed to one that Raven consisted of two teenage boys, and said young woman. Let's see - two teenage boys allegedly racing to the support of a young woman. Yeah, it must be a scam. You'd never see that happen for real. Oh, no, never, never, never. And I don't think that this is at all a clutching at straws by the regulars to maintain an absurd theory.

  1. Raven thinks that Wicca is absurd

  2. Backup copies of the posts below
  3. flame one
  4. HOPE takes it all to be a joke
  5. flame two, sort of
  6. flame three - "oh yeah, yer another" sums it up
  7. second person on thread with sense of humor about it
  8. next flame : Raven is just a bad, bad boy
  9. flame: the power of vague hostility

  10. flame: the poor child just isn't up to dealing with us
  11. oh, daddy flame him again
  12. flame : speaking from personal experience, Cat?
  13. flame, I guess : let's torture Raven
  14. flame by snobbery
  15. ok, we don't need to torture him
  16. me too
  17. In this post, Raven Blackbane points out that she is female
  18. me too
  19. me too
  20. hey, fire ants are people, too - but me too, anyway
  21. obligatory pointless one line added post
  22. Bob Ravenwren offers a reasonable rebuttal to Blackbane
  23. Daniel misses the point
  24. me too
  25. ren appreciates phoenix
  26. let's see where this is going
  27. me too
  28. haven't I seen this flame before? guess not.
  29. me too (note: this one goes on to become Raven's ally !)
  30. me too, surrealistically
  31. I can be surrealistic too, guys
  32. loki - still laid back about it all
  33. Marjorie Rosen returns us to surreality
  34. me too
  35. ridicule by free association, man
  36. thread has drifted totally off topic by this point
  37. Loki gets weird, but at least is still talking about Raven, sort of
  38. more of the same
  39. Shez jumps in for the first time, still joking
  40. me too, more verbosely
  41. Shez tries to join in, and makes first feeble insult
  42. Seawolf declares victory (based on opinion poll, maybe)
  43. me too, but I love you anyway, you old loon
  44. I called Raven a bad word, so I'm tough
  45. anym0use talks down to Raven
  46. inevitable anti-southern slur
  47. me too
  48. me too, too
  49. me too, too, too
  50. Tim likes Raven
  51. With this post, the inspiration for the Raven consortium theory appears
  52. Another sees Raven's post as a joke
  53. starts as serious rebuttal, degenerates into a long winded "me too"
  54. Raven only ridicules us because he feels inadequate
  55. a brief sneer
  56. incoherent ranting
  57. another flamer hops on the bandwagon
  58. a moment of self-congratulation by one of the flamers
  59. and one last "me too" to round it out 
    60.
  60. Wasn't that fun ? Now let's return to the initial hostilities screen
  61. Or, if you wish, we can go straight to the next ugly turn that took place
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