10. Specific Circumstances Openers

A Girl You Already Know

Let's say you see a girl you know, but who may or may not know you. Like maybe a girl you've seen in a college class or from work. You want to stick to your game plan like she's any other girl until she recalls that she knows you. For instance, you don't want to go up to her and tell her "Hey! I saw you at the company picnic last summer!" or something like that. You want to let HER initiate that kind of connection, because if she doesn't remember you (or she does and you bring up where you know her first), she has the power in the interaction.

The same thing is true for a set you've already opened and see later on. If you've already opened them, don't go up and say "Hey, remember me?" Just stick to your plan. If they remember you, they’ll bring it up.

Internet Openers

General

Most of the principles outlined above apply to internet Find/Open as well. Still, here are some guidelines and just plain "lines" that are suited for picking up on the net:

1) Watch the personals every day. Only send messages to the NEW ads. If a woman’s been on the network for more than a couple weeks, she’s probably bitter and skeptical about Internet dating. There are a LOT of freaks on those dating networks.

2) When you get a reply, email and ask her for her number. Tell her that you're swamped with a million messages from supermodels who keep bragging about how much money they have, and she needs to act fast or you'll be gone.

3) Get her number as soon as possible, and get her ON THE PHONE. This is the goal, don’t waste weeks chatting and chatting (you risk STALING out the girl). "Okay this chatting thing is fun but let’s talk on the phone now like NORMAL people. Unless you want to stay Internet pen pals forever LOL"

Give her your number, and as soon as you hit ENTER, type "I don’t hear my phone ringing" :op

4) DO NOT, under ANY circumstances talk about lame NORMAL stuff.

C&F example of a good first message to send: "Wow….from your profile you sound like an interesting, intelligent, balanced woman. Are you SURE you’re from this planet?? lol I’m usually pretty busy rejecting marriage offers from rich supermodels and volunteering with orphaned puppies, but I’m sure I could find some time to chat with you. ;o) I can be reached at ([email protected]) Talk to me."

"Well, you seem really nice. I'd invite you to call me, but I'm afraid that you might be one of these weirdoes...or some guy pretending to be a woman..." (pause) "You know, coffee is a safe bet…This way if you’re scary in person, I can say "Oh, hey… um… I just remembered that I have to go feed my parrot…It’s really important…" and then we can call it a night."

If they don’t answer emails or instant messages, don’t get frustrated. She may have been busy answering someone else, or have been otherwise busy. Or she might be deliberately holding back from writing from you to see if you write an insecure "What’s wrong? Don’t you like me??" Instead, write back a little later: "What, playing hard to get already? Nice. Talk to me." This should get a response back if she’s at all interested.

Internet first-chat fluff talk

"So what brought you to the net, (name)? Not meeting any quality guys (such as myself) in "real life"?"

"So have you met anyone interesting on the net yet? Aside from me I mean."

"Most women on the Internet need a spanking. Are you an Internet Diva?" (What do you mean?) "Well, some women on the net get really big egos from Internet dating. There are tons of loser guys emailing them every day, and they get this big attitude. The funny thing is, a lot of these Internet Divas are women most guys wouldn’t look twice at on the street!" Later, whenever she cops an attitude you just say "Internet Diva!"

"You know what I don't like about online meeting? You know that connection you get with someone emotionally, like you've known them for years? You're talking or chatting with him and you think "I'm on the same level as this person, the same wavelength..." With me I find that all the time online." (her: blah blah) "But the "physical buzz", the chemistry, often that's not there when you meet." (pause/next IM) "You know when you meet a guy in real life, you see the looks first. When you get attracted to this guy the physical buzz comes first and the emotional connection comes a lot easier after that." (pause/next IM) "The Internet takes that process of NATURE, built into us over millenia, and turns it BASS-ACWARDS." (pause) "It's normal to see first and connect later. The internet doesn't allow that...That's why it usually feels weird when you meet, cuz it's unnatural."

(push for "natural" meeting or call ASAP to see if the "physical buzz" is there "so we don’t waste our time". Build a bit of rapport before doing this though since she won’t meet you if you just started chatting 5 minutes ago).

(The stranger objection to meeting "I don't even know you!") "Yes you do! I'm an Internet chat program, Mike 6.0"

Online, call them BRAT as soon as reasonably possible.

Tell her she has no life because she’s chatting with men on the net.

If her responses take too long to come on an IM chat: "TYPE FASTER! Giddy up! Come on, Speedy!"

"You’re really a man, aren’t you?"

"You’re too old for me"

"You’re not a bitch, you’re a brat. Bitches need to be slapped, BRATS need to be spanked"

If there’s a long pause between replies from her: "What are you up to? Are you chatting with someone else right now? I’m too busy for that, talk to you later." Then ignore her for 10 minutes. Come back and if she’s sent something for you in the meantime, say "Oh, so I have all of your attention now?"

She asks how old you are: "I’m really 104 but I lie so hot women will want to chat with me"

One way to bring up the meeting topic: "It’s TIME to meet". (rather than asking if she wants to meet—weak)

Waitress "takedowns"

A waitress is a captive audience. She has to be nice, or pretend to be. No bitch shield in sight. Go totally cocky/funny on waitresses!

(how many are in your group) "Three of us…FOUR if YOU join us..."

"We want the good-looking section, please".

(Are you ready to pay?) "See? All women want is my money…They’re all a bunch of gold diggers!"

Waitress overcharges you by accident, go C&F: "You're trying to scam me aren't you? I'm not THAT blond/dumb! You thought you could pull a fast one on me, didn't you?"

(says "sorry" for making a mistake or if a dish you want isn’t available) "You're fired!"

If she lingers a little too long at your table talking: "You’re never gonna make enough money to support me if you keep ignoring your other tables!"

At a bar: Start calling your waitress NURSE…"Oh, pain, bring me beer!" "Give me a shot to take away the pain" "Tuck me into my hospital bed"

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