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4/16/00 Brian
at first seemed angry that I had apparently killed a
harmless lizard, but when I explained that I had acted
out of ignorance rather than malice, he responded with:
Sorry I responded so strongly, I can
count the number of times I've been shown a "deadly
snake" only to have to explain to the person who had
killed it that it was something harmless. It creates
a 'knee-jerk' reaction sometimes. I could however suggest
that you pick up a field guide for your local reptiles
and Amphibians and in the future you can determine,
before killing it, if it's dangerous or harmless. A
good guide to look at is Peterson Field Guides: Reptiles
and Amphibians (East/Central North America)
By Roger Conant / Joseph Collins" ISBN 0-395-90452-8.
You can probably look at it at most bookstores or order
it if you need it. Another thing is if you think it's
dangerous, let a pro, handle it. Attacking a venomous
snake, could make it turn on you. You can contact some
local vets or Herp (reptile) societies in your area
for snake handlers.
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4/17/00 From Mark:
Nice shootin', Tex. You toasted a skink. BUY YOURSELF
A FIELD
GUIDE!!!
My response: I explained to Mark
that I had acted out of ignorance and fear, no malice
intended. And I was sorry for my mistake -- killing
a harmless lizard. He answered as follows:
I'm a reptile nut who's been into snakes,
lizards, frogs, spiders and the like for most of my
life and saw the link to the story on one of the list
servers I'm subscribed to. There are really very few
things worth killing, even the venomous ones will leave
you alone given half a chance. (I keep some of those,
too.) Only a few have tried to taste me, usually within
the first couple of days of captivity. They settle down
nicely and become very docile pets. If it helps any,
I've probably killed many more animals than you have
in my misguided attempts to domesticate various critters
over the years, skinks not the least among the dearly
departed. So you're in very good company - lol! At least
you put up a picture and asked about it. Some would
just count themselves a great hunter and that would
be the end of it. I'm subscribed to several lists that
deal with snakes, lizards and the like. You may wish
to go to http://www.herpkeepers.com
and sign up for one just for fun. You never know, the
"bug" may bite you and you'll end up another happy herper!

My response:
Mark, What a nice message, and I appreciate it. Your
earlier message had made me consider deleting the website.
But I thought that it might actually do some good --
end up educating some people, like me, about harmless
lizards. I know I learned a lot from the responses,
including yours. But when I first spotted the skink
-- and I never saw such a thing before -- it really
worried me. I thought it might inflict a poisonous bite
on me or my family. And when it darted under the refrigerator,
I couldn't stand the thought of it hiding somewhere
in the house.
I even tried to move the refrigerator,
but it was too heavy and wouldn't budge an inch. So
I got a flashlight and spotted the lizard, but it was
so far under the refrigerator that the only way I could
reach it was with something long and narrow. And thus
the molding.
I really did
create the website originally because I was hoping someone
could identify it for me. But as the responses came
in, I realized that there was a valuable lesson to be
learned here: I had misjudged something solely based
on appearance. My ignorance and prejudice had caused
me to harm an innocent, harmless creature. How similar
to how we humans so often deal with one another. So
I decided to keep expanding the site, hoping that others
perhaps might learn the same lesson.
By the way, I just came back from
the library and skimmed over a book titled Florida's
Poisonous Plants, Snakes, and Insects, by Richard
F. Lockey, M.D., published first in 1963 and then again
in 1978. Nothing in the book about skinks. I did read
the statement that "all Florida lizards are quite harmless."
The book was last printed in 1978 -- so I wonder --
maybe some harmful lizards are now in Florida. Perhaps
some imported dangerous lizard-pets have escaped their
owners' cages and are hiding under someone's refrigerator.
In the book,
I learned that some Florida insects that look innocent
can be poisonous -- insects such as the Red Imported
Fire Ant (solenopsis invicta), the saddleback caterpillar
(Sibiine stimulea), the puss caterpillar (megalopyge
opercularis), the wheel bug (Arilus cristatus). The
saddleback caterpillar I understand is very attractive
looking -- so beauty, it seems, can be deadly.

Mark responded:
The animal kingdom is HUGE! And beautiful.
I've seldom seen an animal that I'd call ugly (though
many humans fall neatly into that category). And some
of the most beautiful are among the most dangerous.
(Like women - lol!) Would it surprise you to know how
many people keep venomous scorpions, centipedes, spiders,
snakes, lizards (beaded and gila, the only venomous
lizards), and fish? Venom has a certain ..... attraction.
Go figure. I keep 3 copperheads, a cottonmouth, a pigmy
rattler and a gaboon viper (along with an assortment
of non-venomous snakes - cornsnakes, ratsnakes, kingsnakes,
boas, pythons), 3 spiders, and a cat (no venom, just
attitude). Never been bit by a hottie so far. (Knock
on wood!)
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