Posted by 5GJW on March 21, 1999 at 21:26:47 {MWZNJSg.uPfFk}:
In Reply to: ******Realization posted by WW on March 21, 1999 at 21:03:26:
In response:
"Whose industrial machine propped up the Russians with tanks and airplanes and helped them hold the German's out of Moscow before the winter stopped them cold?"
The Russian industrial machine. In 1941, our lend-lease was going to England, what there was of it.
"Who stopped Patton's 3ird Army by shutting off his gas, to let the Russians take Moscow?"
You may wish to rephrase this, you must have meant something else.
"Once the US and British armies got into Europe they darn near ended the war in one year."
We faced only 40% of the German army, the Russians had the rest. The Russians had been of the offensive since the battle of Kursk, in '43, and were winning. We only shortened the war.
"The Russians suffered immeasurably but it was just as much Stalin's doing as Hitler's. The jerk had been starving his own people for years and throwing his Army commanders in jails or shooting them."
True, but not relevant to your claim that we stopped Hitler.
"England was in the war because of mutual defense pacts with Poland and France."
Correct. We were not interested in fighting Hitler.
"Russia was in because they were attacked, which is why we went in. (simply stated, much more to it than that)"
True again, and again not relevant to your claim that we stopped Hitler.
"Who said "perfect world" in the US? Yes, we are suffering now from the evils of Capitalism and a so-called 'Free Market'. Unless one has a good job with skills or the right education, it is tough to make good money."
You said "Consistent morality indeed ruled this country since it's inception, regarding family and puritan lifestyles. It is only since the advent of the radicalism of the 60's that families have abandoned their young to the streets and it's justice." This morality included abusing the working class, then as now. You claim that things changed in the 60s, I claim that they have not.
5GJW, hoping that you'll do better than this