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L-I: Fwd: Re: ON THE TRIVIALIZATION OF ANTI-SERB, ANTI-ROM RACISM BY SOME PEOPLE ON THE LEFT



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Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 11:33:54 +0100 (MET)
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Subject: Re: ON THE TRIVIALIZATION OF ANTI-SERB, ANTI-ROM RACISM BY SOME
PEOPLE	ON THE LEFT

> Jared wrote:
> > As people may not be aware, Serbs and Roma are traditional targets of
> > racism 
> > in Austria and Germany.  We're talking genocide, on a scale equal to
> > that 
> > against the Jews - but unlike the genocide by Austro-Germans against
> the
> > 
> > Jews, when it comes to the Serbs and Roma, there has been virtually no
> 
> > discussion, no public apology, no compensation, nothing. And prior to 
> > genocide, there was intense race hate and continuous efforts at
> > colonization. 
> > 
> > The German translators for emperors-clothes are Austrian, and they are
> 
> > extremely clear on this point: the mark of a progressive in Austria is
> > NOT 
> > where they stand on Haider or class struggle - not until one answers
> the
> > 
> > question: where does one stand on the Serbs and Roma, the blacks of
> the 
> > Balkans. 
> Jared,
> I agree with you that the litmus test for any socialist is his position
> in
> regard to racism in his own country. 
> Because I have posted here on the issue of Haider some people think I am
> Austrian, actually I am German. I have published mostly on racism in the
> German magazine Internationaler Sozialismus, so there is no need for you
> to give
> me any advice on this matter.
> Thus the idea I am trivializing racism in Germany is just ridicolous,
> but
> by the way you argue it seems to, you are just thinking in national
> categories assuming every German, Austrian or Albanian must be racist
> through his
> genes. Or why are you starting this post with an episode about German
> soldiers?
> Generally I try to make postings as concise as possible. In the case
> about
> so Albanians and facism, I think Owen(?) has summed up most of what I
> think
> as well.
> > Huh? Compared to what?  Of all the former socialist countries,
> > privatization 
> > is least advanced in Yugoslavia.  Greg Elich, who spent some time 
> > interviewing people in local governments in serbia about economic
> > structures 
> > thinks it is primarily a socialist economy.  In any case, the local
> > officials 
> > want to believe it is - and when you consider it, that is in itself
> > quite a 
> > stunning thing to want in this current world.
> You feel how weak you are argument is. The only source you can quote are
> some petty beaurocrats. Reading back issues of the international
> economic
> press will give another picture. Next week I will post something on the
> issue
> here.
> Johannes
> 
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