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January 2003 News letter

I hope that this year will be more promising than the lapsed for all of us!
I have reduced the Swift's mailing list down to around 150 from nearly 450. Not every person who stumbles on a site will have a continuous interest in it. Those who participate regularly are around hundred fanciers and that is according to Yahoo statistics on this site.

Web Translator : The same link is placed also on the main page to help those who have less command in English than their language of origin. Trouble is" what if they don't know any English"

Pricing dilemma
Before I go on to the Pigeon's mail, I must respond briefly to few concerning, pricing the Swifts on this site. I would like to start first with a recent e-mail, that has fallen short of being a black-hate mail. I will not display it's contents for you; because you will have a pretty good idea who had it written, despite that he had disguised himself as a mother buying for her son.
I want to emphasize to you that I haven't made any profit selling the Swifts or even intend to.
I have a good income from my profession as a Clinical Scientist. There is nothing enough to compensate for my time doing this hobby, except for my love to the Swifts as we all go through the same thing. However; money received from selling birds is in turn recycled to improve the stock by importing better birds. Logically, don't you think that other Egyptian fanciers, who raise ES in this country and familiar with Egypt, would have tried to do the same! Importing is unfortunately an expensive proposition.
Have you tried to figure out how many birds got introduced and pooled into that one pair that you are buying? I have imported around five to seven birds from each group to maintain good qualities and yet the additional finances was not passed on to you. Look, I will be glad if you want to join me next time and share me the financial and mental burden of locating birds. Better yet, why don't you arrange for such a trip and tell me then how much has gone out of your pocket.

Another letter questioning; why have I sold birds to UAE for less than what I price in the US of the same quality?
Answer; The number of sold birds was enough for them to bargain. UAE is around the corner from Egypt and they could try to get their birds from there without worrying about quarantine headache. This also happened after I had spent over $7.000 dollars on a pigeon related trip and the need to make room.
Feel free to contact USDA quarantine in California and find out how many times have I imported pigeons from Egypt and find out about their fees while you are on. I know that some of you have already done.
Comments on the random mixing
I received few comments on the random mixing among grouping. One from Germany indicated "it was the limited pool that pushed in that direction". Another fancier said "a major correction is needed in his loft and working on it". "This will put things in prospective" said John Dodds.
The last comment came from Jim Roach. He said" I am no longer raising birds, but used to keep few Owls. I could see that some of the Egyptians have a bit of resemblance to the African and Chinese Owls! you have a very professional presentation". May be Jim!!

Judging over the Internet
The above link has two pictures that need your evaluation. The birds are not necessarily mix. Please, base your brief analysis on the following order and e-mail back:
Name of Judge:
beak setting:
forehead:
eye sign (if discernible):
body color:
station (height):
Conclude your remarks with a guess on each bird's purity and background if possible.
I will include your remarks under each picture in a following newsletter. I will try to build on this until we get through all the ES groups to have fairly knowledgeable ES fanciers all over the country. I have to receive as many responses and pictures for others to evaluate.
Every
individual must contribute for one another. There is no gain for me! you just giving me extra work to do. Get your Camera and send me a few. At the end of the day you will be expected to have better birds and help professionally in judging ES.

E-mail
From Dale barnaby, Loc, Nico Veen. AL Hansen has also sent a long list of questions, which I have not had a chance to cover it all for him. Some of them are crossed with questions from others in the past 6 months. I will respond to all of them according to their frequency.
Question:Why fanciers have different spelling for the Swifts names?
Answer: The same goes for their pronunciation. The reason is that these names are new to the English tongue. I might add that the Egyptian slang pronounce the names differently from the correct and proper Arabic language.
Question: Why are the black Ott'atis (Otatis) considered beautiful and black Rehanis thought of as culls?
Answer: I will take the Black Otati and the Black Rehani any time if they have the proper body style and of course the beak setting over a colorful bird without the proper settings. The color might escape for one or two generations, but eventually it will come back. Looks are the most illusive. "It is also the identity of the bird".
Question: Can you or have you ever mated two Black Otatis?
Answer: No, but I was told by some fanciers in Egypt that they produce the Andalusian from such a mating. As long as you know that the two birds are produced from Otatis parents with good colors. In the mean time why would you do that when you could cross them with lighter colors. I would go for such a combination, if they have promising features and qualities.
Question: In Egypt, do you have the same split as you do in North America, where you have a certain group of people who want only birds for their sheer beauty and the other group want them for fliers?
Answer:
Yes, the split prevails worldwide and not only limited to a country or a region from what I hear. Locking the birds and breeding for looks in Egypt, has seen a big increase in the past twenty years due to the urban expansion and the lack of time and guts to fly the birds. I would say that the division is equal now in Egypt between the two camps. The younger people in general tend to fly. Beauty and looks are traits thought by veteran and more experienced fancier. It takes years of raising a breed to see its fine traits. As youngsters, we only cared about colors and how strong they flew. Younger folks have usually more time on their hand and enjoy the interaction of flying and the problems that come with it. The game changes later on in life with the tendency to help mother nature to preserve or even improve some of it's images. Although not in my younger days anymore, I am still fascinated to watch them flying. I even remember a fancier in his late sixties and was still flying in the late evening. We used to joke about his ability to spot an outsider bird among his birds after the sunset.
Question: What Swifts would be classified as being rare in Egypt?
Answer: All the groups that are on display on this site are readily available in most lofts. What is certainly not available and considered rare are those birds that are produced with such a precision to the standards. This means the proper body size, length, beak setting, head size, proper station and so on. One reason that prompts me to buy several birds from each group is to cover a deficiencies among birds. I don't have many prefect picture birds, but close enough to satisfy me. This is an ongoing process and could always be improved, if I stop flying and select on looks only.
Near perfect birds are not usually for sale. Their prices are astronomical if you insist on buying them. You could easily buy a pair of average Otati from most lofts in Egypt at $50.00. Above average, when found will jump to $250.00 or even more. Superior looking ones, but will not likely to fly, could easily sell for twice as much. It is hard to produce long birds (13 inches and tight feathers) with rounded and downward face in Otatis, Anbary, Ahmar, Morraka, Bolks and Mesaweds with the proper markings and colors. I have not included the Safis among the others because they stand out in a different class by themselves. Those birds are truly magnificent, rare and arguably the most difficult to produce.

Exotic New Castle Disease (END)
The first few cases were detected in Southern Californian on November 2002 and now it is in full swing causing one of the worst epidemics to Poultry in our area. The etiology (causing agent) is Avian influenza A1. There is neither treatment nor vaccine available to combat it. It affects a wide range of Poultry species (Chicken, Turkey, Ducks and other Fowl) as well as Pigeons and Doves. It is very contagious and could be transmitted from a chicken to a pigeon and visa versa via respiratory droplets or feces.
Humans do not contact the disease or become affected even if they consume sick birds.
It is different serologically (genetic make up) from the common New Castle that is caused by Paramyxovirus(PMV) and many of us usually vaccinate against. The later also causes sickness and death; however limited to Chicken, Pigeons and Doves. It doesn't cross transmit among the to species as the case of (END). In other words the Pigeon's PMV is genetically different from the Chicken's PMV. Therefore the Chicken vaccine does not give immunity to Pigeons and the other way around. Therefore one must use specifically the vaccine that is recommended for each group.
Viruses in general are easily destroyed by all available market germicidal. But what if you have accidentally introduced an asymptomatic (a clinically sick bird, but not showing signs yet) or even a carrier that might not display even symptoms into your loft and that bird is continuously passing fresh virus after you have just finished decontaminating!. theoretically a bird compound could be wiped out and the true culprit might still be standing and eating. That is the reason behind destroying entirely all exposed birds once one case become detected among a flock.
Not only that fanciers should not allow knew birds in their lofts for the time being, but they should refrain also from visiting each others lofts. Pigeons in quarantined area should be restricted from turning loose or flying. The incubation period for both viruses are around two to three weeks.
This is a Southern California's problem for the time being and hopefully it will be confined here.
Racing competitions have been canceled in San Diego and fanciers are not flying.
Shipping out of Southern California has been halted until further notice.
The USDA ( US Department of Agriculture) that is responsible for the quarantine of imported birds in our area has sent me information about Southern California locations under quarantine and they also referred me to USDA web site in California for further information.
The USDA in the past used to test imported birds for both PMV and Salmonella.. In the last few years they have dropped the Salmonella testing and now testing ,exclusively, for influenza A1 and PMV.
Wish you the best of luck until next time.

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