Frequently asked questions
(FAQ)
These questions were taken from the guest book over the past
few years. I will periodically update them as needed.
Q What is the difference between the Egyptian and
the Syrian Swifts ?
A The Egyptian Swifts (ES) have 10 well defined groups. Each is unique
with will defined markings. They collectively share a common marking of
long body, wings, tail and short legs. The Syrian Swifts (SS) is the product
of random crossing among the ES groups. Thus producing a breed that lacks
the brilliant ES colors (drab in colors). They also lack the beak siting
and posture.
Q where did the SS originate?
A They originated in Europe and not in Syria as the name imply. The misnomer
spread to the rest of the West including the USA. Short and compacted
bird with drab colors were dubbed SS. Long bird with loose feathers and
more pronounced colors were claimed to be ES in Europe.
Q What are Swifts called in the Middle East?
A Neither the term SS nor ES is used around the Mideast. When found, pure
ES are known as the Egyptian birds in that region. In Egypt the term is
alien and many distinguish this breed from others by the naming them "Gohzar
".
Q What is the Swifts history in the West?
A They arrived in 1925 to England from Egypt. Egypt was the under the
British occupation. The first documented account in the USA was noted
when Sam Shadeed, a Syrian immigrant, brought along few ES among a variety
of birds from that region, which was the inception of the Syrian-Lebanese
breed in the USA.
It is of essence to mention that there is absolutely no difference between
the Lebanese or Syrian birds. Both countries were under one flag until
the end of the of world war two.
Q Where could I find more reference for the ES?
A The book of pigeon by "Levi" has a primitive picture of a
"Gazgandi" and had it titled as ES. Another in the same book
of an Otati by Sam Shadeed. There was hardly any worthwhile material covering
the breed, in a book that covered a mass of breeds.
Three Egyptian Booklets in Arabic are in Egyptian libraries. I am using
the latest issue for the standards.
Q Is it possible to have flying birds and still
compete in a show?
A The limit for length for the flying bird is around 30 cm as compared
to more than 32 cm or for a show bird. A show bird has a smaller head
than a flying one. Their body tends to be fragile and many require foster
parents early life. A good flying loft should maintain 80% of a show Quality
and that fares well against many show birds. Anything below that will
not make it in a show.
There is no show ES out of Egypt and what you see on our site is the closest
you could get to view a show ES in the West.
Q What are the most important qualities that makes a bird win a show?
A At this point fanciers see the length and the bird size only and that
reflects of judging. Now many interested fanciers are knowledgeable about
the different groups and their corresponding colors. Little or no knowledge
about the facial markings and the eye sign. Shows are subjective at this
point and it will not change overnight, but the numbers are steadily increasing.
Q What are the difference between the Egyptian and
the European Standards?
A The European, namely the British and the German have one standard for
the entire ES groups. Not only you are dealing with ten groups, but many
sub groups as well.
The European have mixed the Rehanis, Azrak Katifa (Blue velvets) and Otatis
and lumped them all under the ES? You can't judge a pussycat under the
same standards of a lion. One might argue they both come from the "feline"
family!. In short they are dead wrong and confusing at best.
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