L: Yeah, build character.
J: Yeah, toughen you up.
L: Okay, and what was your first role?
J: Professional role?
L: Yeah, okay, or...
J: On... my first role was when I played... at school, in an assembly, I played Saint George.
L: Saint George.
J: Yeah, and I remember I had a big... sword [imitates holding a large sword in his hands]. And, and... I kinda
liked that [smiles]. And, uh, I guess it all started there.
L: Hence the girls, and the girls like the big sword, and it all works out.
J: [laughs] Exactly.
L: And your, your parents were school teachers as well.
J: Yeah, my parents were both teachers.
L: Okay, did that make it easier for you?
J: I guess so. They used to have dinner parties, and obviously their fellow teachers would come, and so seeing teachers sort of drunk and disorderly made me realize that they were just human, too... and...
L: Yeah, see that was... I can remember the first time seeing a teacher outside on the street...
J: Yeah, it's always a shock...
L: It's like, [acts like he's attempting to hide against a wall] "oh my god, why is she buying groceries?" [audience laughs].
J: It's true.
L: "... what are they gonna do with those?"
J: Yeah, yeah.
L: Or see a teacher wearing shorts. What's more frightening than that?
J: It's true, actually... seeing my father in shorts is pretty frightening [he says this seemingly seriously � the audience laughs].
L: Now, you used to review movies as well, as a kid?
J: [winces for a few seconds] ...yeah.
L: Now you're wincing, why is that? Do you...
J: 'Cause I hope... I hope what's gonna happen isn't gonna happen� [he sinks down in his chair a little and rests his
chin on his hand].
L: No! It's not gonna happen...
J: Oh good! [he opens himself up a little more]. Yes I did! I used to review films! I did it a few times.
L: You know, I saw the tape and it was good, and I went, "Ech."... I couldn't humiliate...
J: I was a harsh critic, wasn't I?
L: But I couldn't humiliate and degrade you with it because it was good.
J: I was a harsh critic.
L: Yeah, what was...
J: Basically, it was this, um... it was the first breakfast show in England, and they came to my school to look for... kids of different ages to review films...
L: Right, right.
J: And I went on it a couple of times, and em...
L: And what did you review? What were the films?
J: I... let me see, the first one was Nadia. About Nadia Comaneci.
L: Okay.
J: I think I reviewed the re-release of 101 Dalmatians...
L: Oh, okay.
