J: It, uh�certainly wasn't common when I was growing up in Lewisham�

C: Mm-hmm.

J: Uh, I was often con � yeah anyway� um, it comes from, my mum and dad named me after the book Jude the Obscure by Thomas Hardy.

C: Mm-hmm.

J: And I was given it when I was� eighteen by my mum�

C: Mm-hmm.

J:
And read it. And [laughs] it's possibly one of the most depressing books I've ever read in my life.

C: It's a really depressing� yeah�

J: It's a beautiful book.

C: Right.

J: But it's, uh� I mean, in it, I think it's possibly one of the most tragic moments� uh, in literature, when, uh, two of his children � Jude's children � kill themselves because they're so hun�so starving hungry. They consider that they obviously are� they are two too many.

C:
Right, right. Isn't that nice? Like, "how 'bout a name for that guy!"

J: That's right.

C:
People always ask me, "Who are you named after?"

J: Who are you named after?

C: Well, ya know, growing up kids thought I was named after Conan the Barbarian, but it's actually an old� [delayed audience laughter] they did! They were like, "hey barBARian! Ehhhh!" [mimics grabbing someone's head and ramming it against a wall over and over]� and the beatings would go on and on� but when, um, but actually my parents-�it's like an old, Celtic name�

J: Yeah.

C: � that goes way back, and is actually in one of the illustrations of like the Norman Invasion, there's a big battle scene and you see all of the different people fighting�

J:
Yeah, the�

C: There's one guy�

J: The Bayeux Tapestry, yeah.

C: Bayeux Tapestry. There's one person who's running away, and underneath it says "Conan" and I swear to God that's true, my parents actually got me�

J: Is that true?

C: Yeah, Conan is like, running away [immitates runner] and�

J: Smart guy.

C:
Yeah, yeah.

J: No, smart guy.

C: And it's like, "thanks a lot parents, that's very nice." You, um, you are a method actor. People, uh�

J: [he shifts his hand in the air as if to object] Of a sort.

C: Well, you, you like to immerse yourself in a role and really�

J: Sure.

C:
� try and be that person.

J: Sure.

C:
So in Cold

J: It's a good excuse to learn, uh, you know, uh, learn something about a period of time, or a certain way of thinking, or a new skill sometimes.

C: Right, but here's the problem. Cold Mountain, uh, which, uh, famously, uh, ya know, so many people love the book.

J: Wonderful book.

C: This is, this is a story of a, uh, Civil War Confederate soldier who is trying to make his way home.

J: That's right.

C: How do you get into that role with� you don't have a time machine so what did you do to try and prepare?

J: Oh, you know� killed a few people�
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