Descendants of Hugh II
25. 11TH LORD MACGREGOR MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR (GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Bef. 1300, and died 1374. He married MARY MACALPIN, daughter of MALISE MACALPINE. She was born Bef. 1340.
Notes for 11TH LORD MACGREGOR MALCOM DOMINUS DE MACGREGOR:
Strongly attached to the immortal Bruce; fought at battle of Bannockburn (1314) under Edward Bruce; wounded at Dunkirk, died at an advanced age in 1374. Also had several daughters, not named.
Information from: "The Baronetage of Scotland" - Sir Robt Douglas, Vol 1, p 493, 1798; "Burke's Peerage;" "British Authority" - Sir William Playfair; Vol 7, pp 506-13, London, 1811; "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British;" "British Authority", and "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British."
Information from the 1962 Yearbook of the American Clan Gregor Society, Inc, (page 24, # 1364, Robert Alan Temple), Washington, D.C. and other notes and charts from Lois Temple, Dublin, VA.
Malcolm MacGregor was the 11th Lord MacGregor. He was wounded at the Battle of Bannockburn, in service to Robert, and thus was known as the "lame lord". His death date is from Burke's Irish Pedigrees.
Information from the 1962 Yearbook of the American Clan Gregor Society, Inc, (page 24, # 1364, Robert Alan Temple), Washington, D.C. and other notes and charts from Lois Temple, Dublin, VA. Malcom Dominus de Macgregor , Lord Macgregor and Mary Macalpin had the following children:
Notes for MARY MACALPIN:
Information from: "The Baronetage of Scotland" - Sir Robt Douglas, Vol 1, p 493, 1798; "Burke's Peerage;" "British Authority" - Sir William Playfair; Vol 7, pp 506-13, London, 1811; "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British;" "British Authority", and "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British."
Children of MALCOM DE MACGREGOR and MARY MACALPIN are:
26. i. 1ST LORD OF LAG GILBERT17 GRIERSON, b. 1353, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. Aft. April 09, 1425, Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
ii. GREGOR (AULIN) GRIERSON, b. 1351; d. 1413.
Generation No. 17
26. 1ST LORD OF LAG GILBERT17 GRIERSON (MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born 1353 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Aft. April 09, 1425 in Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. He married JANET GLENDENING Bef. 1400, daughter of SIMON GLENDENING and MARY DOUGLAS. She was born Bef. 1383 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Aft. 1400.
Notes for 1ST LORD OF LAG GILBERT GRIERSON:
He was buried in Old Dunscore Cem, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. Gilbert Mac Gregor was also known as Gilbert Grierson, received charter to Lag Castle, December 1408. Ancestor of Griersons of Lag and Arde as well as of the Griers and Greers (No. 14, p 19).
Information from: "The Baronetage of Scotland" - Sir Robt Douglas; Vol 1, p 493; 1798; "Burke's Peerage"; "British Authority" - Sir William Playfair; Vol 7, pp 506-13; London, 1811; "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British;" "British Authority", and "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British."
Information from the 1962 Yearbook of the American Clan Gregor Society, Inc, (page 24, # 1364, Robert Alan Temple), Washington, D.C. and other notes and charts from Lois Temple, Dublin, VA.
"Gilbert Grierson was the 1st Lord of Lag. He seems to have been the "Gilbrid" who led a migration from Glenorchy into Dumfriesshire in latter part of the 14th century. The birth date shown is actually his christening date. He was the second son of Malcolm MacGregor, he took the name "Grierson" in accordance with charter granted before 1400, by George de Dunbar, Earl of March, conveying lands of Netherholm [2 km SW of Amisfield Tower], and Dalgarnock [just west of Dunscore] to him and his heirs male to be called by the surname Grierson. In 1400, the Earl also granted charter to the lands of Airde, Tyrcrome, and Overholm in the Barony of Tybris for his many good deeds to the Earl. On 6 December 1408, Gilbert got from his cousin Henry St. Clair, Earl of Orkney, charter to lands of Lag lying in the Brokenbarony, among the monk lands of the Monastery of Montrose, giving yearly a pair of gilt spurs at the Castle of Dumfries as blench farm. On 17 May 1410, he got charter for lands of Drumjoan from Archibald, Earl of Douglas for being his armor bearer." (William Grierson, Wheaton, Illinois.)
Notes for JANET GLENDENING:
She was the great granddaughter of Robert III, descendant of Charlamagne and a signer of the Magna Charta.
Information from the 1962 Yearbook of the American Clan Gregor Society, Inc, (page 24, # 1364, Robert Alan Temple), Washington, D.C. and other notes and charts from Lois Temple, Dublin, VA.
Children of GILBERT GRIERSON and JANET GLENDENING are:
27. i. 2ND LORD OF LAG GILBERT18 GRIERSON, b. Abt. 1397, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. Bef. December 20, 1444, Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
ii. WILLIAM GRIERSON, b. Abt. 1400; d. 1457.
iii. LAIRD OF MALMUCURRAN WALTER GRIERSON, d. Aft. 1466.
Notes for LAIRD OF MALMUCURRAN WALTER GRIERSON:
Laird of Malmucurran (Charter of 1466).
Generation No. 18
27. 2ND LORD OF LAG GILBERT18 GRIERSON (GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1397 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Bef. December 20, 1444 in Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. He married ISABELLA DE KIRKPATRICK November 14, 1412 in Old Dunscore, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, daughter of SIR, LORD,TORTHORWALD DUNCAN DE KIRKPATRICK. She was born Bef. 1400 in Rock Hall, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, and died 1472.
Notes for 2ND LORD OF LAG GILBERT GRIERSON:
He inherited the lands of Arde and Lag
Notes for ISABELLA DE KIRKPATRICK:
Isabel de Kirkpatrick was Lady Rocail. Her union is evinced in the Lag Charters. Rocail came to be spelled Rock Hall. A spurious source has her from Closeburn and wed to Vedast's son
Children of GILBERT GRIERSON and ISABELLA DE KIRKPATRICK are:
28. i. 3RD LORD OF LAG VEDAST19 GRIERSON, b. Abt. 1415, Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. Abt. 1487.
ii. GILBERT GRIERSON.
iii. JOHN GRIERSON.
Notes for JOHN GRIERSON:
Had charter (1446) to Lands of Lincluden
iv. WILLIAM GRIERSON.
Notes for WILLIAM GRIERSON:
Had sasine of Dalgarnock (3 January 1449). He also had charter to lands of Daltoun and Dormont from Archibald, Earl of Douglas
v. CUTHBERT GRIERSON.
Generation No. 19
28. 3RD LORD OF LAG VEDAST19 GRIERSON (GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1415 in Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Abt. 1487. He married MARGARET GLENDONWYN, daughter of WILLIAM DE DALRYMPLE and AGNES KENNEDY.
Notes for 3RD LORD OF LAG VEDAST GRIERSON:
Date of birth based on the marriage date of parents
Information from the "Grierson Notes" manuscript by Sir Philip J. Hamilton - Grierson Kt., 1948, found in the Dumfries, Scotland Library.
"Vedast Grierson was the 3rd Lord of Lag. The eldest son, he built Lag Tower in 1460. He also got sasine of Bordlands [1465], charter of Glencairn [1467], sasine of Windiehill [1468], and charter of Rocail [1473] from Duke of Albany, and charter of Drumjoan [1475] from the King. The inventory of Rockhall writs includes the following: "Imprimis, a Precept by Isobell Kirkpatrick, Lady Rockhall, for infefting Vedast Grierson, her son, in the lands of Rockhall, dated 4th may 1468." The Tower is just east of the town of Dunscore, the churchyard of which served as the ancient burying ground for the Griersons, including the infamous Laird of Lag [Scott's Redgauntlet]. (NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: The churchyard where the "Laird of Lag" is buried is not the graveyard at Dunscore. He is buried at the "old Dunscore Graveyard," several miles southeast of Dunscore.) The name Vedast is cognate with the Old French "Vaast", as in Bishop St. Vaast of Arras - one of the 2 bishops who instructed Clovis in the Christian faith." (William Greer.)
Children of VEDAST GRIERSON and MARGARET GLENDONWYN are:
29. i. 4TH LORD OF LAG ROGER20 GRIERSON, b. Abt. 1439, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. June 1488, Sauchieburn, near Sterling, Scotland.
ii. CUTHBERT GRIERSON, b. Aft. 1441; d. 1513.
iii. VEDAST GRIERSON, b. Aft. 1442.
iv. GILBERT GRIERSON.
Generation No. 20
29. 4TH LORD OF LAG ROGER20 GRIERSON (VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1439 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died June 1488 in Sauchieburn, near Sterling, Scotland. He married ISABELLA GORDOUN 1473 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland. She was born Bef. 1460 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
Notes for 4TH LORD OF LAG ROGER GRIERSON:
He was buried in Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. Roger took up arms against the King, was wounded at the Battle of Sauchieburn, near Sterling, fought on St. Barnabas' Day, 11 June 1488, and died before 26 July 1488. (Information from the "Grierson Notes" manuscript by Sir Philip J. Hamilton-Grierson Kt., 1948, found in the Dumfries, Scotland Library.)
Roger Grierson was the 4th Lord of Lag. He got charter to Lag in 1473 from King James III. He was fatally wounded at the Battle of Sauchieburn
Children of ROGER GRIERSON and ISABELLA GORDOUN are:
30. i. ROGER21 GRIERSON, b. Aft. 1474, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. September 09, 1513, Flodden Field, Branxton, Northumberland, England.
ii. 5TH LORD OF LAG CUTHBERT GRIERSON, b. Aft. 1473; d. Bef. May 09, 1513, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
Notes for 5TH LORD OF LAG CUTHBERT GRIERSON:
Cuthbert Grierson had sasine of Lag 10 October 1490 and of Rock Hall on 2 May 1505. He had died childless by 9 May 1513 when his brother Roger inherited various tracts
iii. ROBERT GRIERSON, b. Aft. 1475; d. Aft. 1510.
Notes for ROBERT GRIERSON:
acted for his brother Cuthbert on 10 September 1510
iv. GILBERT GRIERSON, b. Aft. 1476.
Notes for GILBERT GRIERSON:
Had a charter from his cousin William, Earl of Orkney, on 6 November 1486.
Generation No. 21
30. ROGER21 GRIERSON (ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Aft. 1474 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died September 09, 1513 in Flodden Field, Branxton, Northumberland, England. He married AGNES "JANET" "JANE" DOUGLAS, daughter of JAMES DOUGLAS and JANET SCOTT. She was born Abt. 1467 in Drumlanrig, Dumfriesshire, Scotland, and died Aft. January 19, 1519 in hailed from Collin and left issue.
Notes for ROGER GRIERSON:
He died on 9 Sep 1513 in Flodden Field, Branxton, Northumberland, England. Roger Grierson was Lord Windiehill. He had sasine of Windiehill, 10 May 1513 and was killed at Battle of Flodden Field before he could succeed his brother, Cuthbert, to the Lordship of Lag. His first and second sons also died before becoming Lords of Lag, so his 3rd son became heir to Lag
Notes for AGNES "JANET" "JANE" DOUGLAS:
Agnes Douglas was James Douglas' 3rd daughter. Burke's correctly calls her "Agnes" under Grierson, but errs in calling her "Janet" under Queensberry, Marquess [the Drumlanrigs] and again under Greer in his "Irish Pedigrees."
Children of ROGER GRIERSON and AGNES DOUGLAS are:
31. i. 6TH LORD OF LAG, SIR JOHN22 GRIERSON, b. Abt. 1490, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. Bef. July 1559, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
ii. CUTHBERT GRIERSON.
iii. GILBERT GRIERSON, b. Bef. 1499; d. Bef. 1514.
iv. JANET "JONET" GRIERSON.
v. MARGARET GRIERSON.
Generation No. 22
31. 6TH LORD OF LAG, SIR JOHN22 GRIERSON (ROGER21, ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1490 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Bef. July 1559 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland. He married (1) NICOLAS HERYS Bef. March 12, 1529. She was born Bef. 1515. He married (2) EGIDIA KENNEDY Bef. August 20, 1548, daughter of JOHN KENNEDY and JANE STEWART. She was born Bef. 1535 in Cullean, Ayrshire, Scotland.
Notes for 6TH LORD OF LAG, SIR JOHN GRIERSON:
Information from "Irish Pedigrees; or the Origin and stem of the Irish Nation", by John O'Hart, Vol. II, pp. 234-236.
Sir John Grierson was the 6th Lord of Lag. He served his uncle Cuthbert and got sasine of Lag on 9 November 1514. He also had sasine of Rock Hall on 7 November 1514.
Children of JOHN GRIERSON and NICOLAS HERYS are:
i. 7TH LORD OF LAG WILLIAM23 GRIERSON.
ii. NICOLAS GRIERSON.
iii. JANET GRIERSON.
Children of JOHN GRIERSON and EGIDIA KENNEDY are:
32. iv. 8TH LORD OF LAG ROGER23 GRIERSON, b. Abt. 1520, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. August 1593, Scotland.
v. AGNES GRIERSON.
vi. ELIZABETH GRIERSON.
vii. JOHN GRIERSON.
viii. ROBERT GRIERSON.
ix. SIR THOMAS GRIERSON.
Generation No. 23
32. 8TH LORD OF LAG ROGER23 GRIERSON (JOHN22, ROGER21, ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1520 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died August 1593 in Scotland. He married HELEN DOUGLAS April 21, 1566 in Drumlanrig, daughter of JAMES DOUGLAS. She was born Bef. 1560 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died 1578 in Scotland.
Notes for 8TH LORD OF LAG ROGER GRIERSON:
Information from the 1962 Yearbook of the American Clan Gregor Society, Inc, (page 24, # 1364, Robert Alan Temple), Washington, D.C. and other notes and charts from Lois Temple, Dublin, VA.
Information from "Douglas Baronetage of Scotland, Pub 1790", "Burke's Peerage, British Authority", and "O'Hart's Irish Pedigrees, Irish and British."
Roger Grierson was the . He succeeded his half brother, William, who had died without heir (Per precept of clare constat of 5 June 1566 [Lag Charter].) He also had sasine of Rock Hall and left 3 daughters by Helen.
Notes for HELEN DOUGLAS:
"Another source calls her Helena, daughter of John Montgomery, but she seems to have been his granddaughter. She was Sir James' first daughter by his second wife Christian, but he had 3 previous daughters. Lag Charter - app #23 Confirms wedding date and place and Helen's paternity." (William Greer, Wheaton, Illinois, 1995.)
Children of ROGER GRIERSON and HELEN DOUGLAS are:
33. i. 9TH LORD OF LAG, SIR WILLIAM24 GRIERSON, b. Bet. 1567 - 1575, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. January 21, 1629, Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
ii. SUSANNA GRIERSON.
iii. GRISEL GRIERSON.
Generation No. 24
33. 9TH LORD OF LAG, SIR WILLIAM24 GRIERSON (ROGER23, JOHN22, ROGER21, ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Bet. 1567 - 1575 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died January 21, 1629 in Lag, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. He married NICHOLA MAXWELL May 09, 1593 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, daughter of WILLIAM MAXWELL. She was born Abt. 1578 in Scotland.
Notes for 9TH LORD OF LAG, SIR WILLIAM GRIERSON:
He was buried on 17 Feb 1629 in Old Dunscore Cem, Dumfrieshire, Scotland. "Sir William Grierson of Lag was Knighted by James VI in 1608." (Information from the 1962 Yearbook of the American Clan Gregor Society, Inc, (page 24, # 1364, Robert Alan Temple), Washington, D.C. and other notes and charts from Lois Temple, Dublin, Virginia.)
"Sir William Grierson was the 9th Lord of Lag. In 1608, he was Knighted by the King, although [Lag Charter #159] refers to him as "Sir" on 23 March 1605. He also got sasine of Larglanley [11 May 1597], Windiehill [16 May 1609], and Capenoch [26 Jun 1616]. He was the only son." (William Greer.)
"Sir William Grierson was a Knight of Lag Castle, Dumfries. He was appointed keeper of certain rolls was shot and killed in 1629. From this time on the family called themselves Grier or Greer instead of Grierson. Sir William had two sons and was knighted by James VI." (The Historical Families of Dumfriesshire and the Border Wars by C.L. Johnstone. Appointed as Commissioner to Parliament representing Dumfriesshire 1617-1625; 1709-1711.)
(NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: William is shown by one source to have been born about 1550, but as his parents did not marry until 1566, and his sister, Grisel was not born until 1585, and her wife was not born until 1578, it is more probable that William Grierson was born about 1767 to 1675.)
Children of WILLIAM GRIERSON and NICHOLA MAXWELL are:
34. i. SIR JAMES25 GRIER, b. Abt. 1604, Capenoch, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. Abt. 1666, Dumfrieshire, Scotland.
ii. HELENA GRIERSON.
iii. SIR. ROBERT GRIERSON.
iv. SARA GRIERSON.
v. ALEXANDER GRIERSON, b. Bef. 1599.
Notes for ALEXANDER GRIERSON:
was born before 1601 in Lag, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. He died in Scotland. "John Grier of Capenoch, Dumfries, 4th son. Signs himself "Master of Capenoch." " ("Printed Pedigree Chart of 1888," as seen in Edinburg, Scotland and a copy made from this same chart as obtained from Lois Temple.)
vi. AGNES GRIERSON.
vii. WILLIAM GRIERSON.
viii. JOHN GRIERSON.
ix. LANCELOT GRIERSON.
x. ISABEL GRIERSON.
Generation No. 25
34. SIR JAMES25 GRIER (WILLIAM24 GRIERSON, ROGER23, JOHN22, ROGER21, ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1604 in Capenoch, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Abt. 1666 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland. He married MARY BROWNE Abt. 1626, daughter of JOHN BROWNE and SARA HOPE. She was born Abt. 1604 in Glencairn, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
Notes for SIR JAMES GRIER:
"Sir James Greer, Knt., of Capenoch, Dumfriesshire and Rock Hall, Alnwick, Northumberland, 5th son of Sir William Grier. Succeded his brother, John in Capenoch. In a discharge, dated 1630, James signs Grier and brother Alexander signs Grierson. Died 1666. Married Mary, daughter of the Rev. John Browne, M. A., of Glencairn, first minister after the Reformation; and widow of Thomas Grier of Bargarg Tower, Dumfriesshire. John Grierson of Bargarg married Grizel, daughter of of Robert Kirkpatrick of Closeburn by his wife Grizel, daughter of Sir William Baillie of Lannington, M. P., by Grizel his wife, daughter of Sir Claud Hamilton of Elieston, brother of James, 1st Earl of Abercorn, ancestor of the Duke of Abercorn." ("Printed Pedigree Chart of 1888," as seen in Edinburg, Scotland and a copy made from this same chart as obtained from Lois Temple. NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: I am not sure what the connection is between Mary Browne or Thomas Grierson to the above mentioned John Grierson.)
"Sir James Grier, son of Sir William and Nichola (Maxwell) Grierson was designated as of The Rock and Copenoch, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. He was born circa 1604; died in 1666. In 1626, he married Mary Browne, daughter of the Reverend John Browne of Glencairn, and was, at the time of this marriage, the widow of Thomas Greer, of Barjang Tower of the same county. From this Sir James Grier, originated the several Greer branches known as of Tullylagen, Grange and Sea Park. Many of these accepted the Quaker faith and removed to Ireland. The known children of Sir James amd Mary (Brown) Grier, three: i. James Greer ... . ii. Henry Greer ... . iii. Ann Greer ... ." (From a lithographed Family Chart prepared by Thomas Greer, of Ireland, in 1855 as given in GREGOR, MacGREGOR, MacGHEE, MAGRUDER, GRIERSON, GRIER, GREER --- A HISTORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE ABOVE FAMILIES AND MANY OF THEIR DESCENDANTS, 1954, compiled by Robert M. Torrence, A.B., F.G.S.P., F.I.A.G., 110 Edgevale Road Baltimore 10, Maryland, page 41.)
"Sir James Grierson removed to Cumberland and changed his surname to Grier. On 6 August 1630 [Lag Charter #214], James Greirsone (NOT SIR), brother of Sir Robert Greirsone of Lag, witnessed his brother Lancelot Greirsone's sasine to Dalskairth." (William Greer, Illinois.)
Children of JAMES GRIER and MARY BROWNE are:
35. i. JAMES26 GREER, b. Abt. 1627, Capenoch, Dumfrieshire, Scotland; d. Abt. 1688, Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, MD.
ii. HENRY GREER.
iii. JOHN GRIER.
iv. ANNE GRIER.
v. NICOLA GRIER.
Generation No. 26
35. JAMES26 GREER (JAMES25 GRIER, WILLIAM24 GRIERSON, ROGER23, JOHN22, ROGER21, ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Abt. 1627 in Capenoch, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, and died Abt. 1688 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, MD. He married ANN (ANNA) TAYLOR Abt. 1680 in Baltimore County, MD, daughter of ARTHUR TAYLOR and MARGARET HILL. She was born Abt. 1662 in Baltimore County, MD, and died May 13, 1716 in Baltimore County, MD.
Notes for JAMES GREER:
"GREAR, James. Arrived Maryland Nov., 1674, on Batchelor, ex Bristol. Indentured. (Early Settlers Book 18, folio 152) - 2112 ... (A second listing is also shown:) GREER, James. Born probably Dumfriesshire. Son of James Greer and Mary Browne. Settled Joppa, Baltimore County, Maryland, 1675. Married Ann, daughter of Arthur Taylor and Wife Margaret, with issue: (1) John, born 1688; (2) James. (D. C., 22 Apr., 1961) - 2117." (These two entries are from A DICTIONARY OF SCOTTISH EMIGRANTS TO THE USA by Donald Whyte, 1972.)
(NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: It is from the D. C. listing that some have put the claim of James Greer being the son of Sir James Greer; but who put the information in the D. C. Also note this source shows a second son, James. Other sources list another possible son, Joseph. John is, however, the only son of record to have been found up to this time, 1997. Some accounts believe James Greer died about 1699. Records for James Greer in the LDS Ancestral File, show him born about 1650 in Dumfrieshire, Scotland, married Anna Taylor on 2 November 1675 and that his name could have been "John" rather than James. In ROYAL HERITAGE OF THE GREERS (1985) by Carolyn Beal she states that her father and Sylvester Greer believed that James Greer was born in England in 1650, but she is inclined to believe the 1627 date. If this James Greer was the son of Sir James Grierson, then he would have been born about 1627, to fit into the birth pattern of Sir James' other children. Sir James Grierson did have a son named James, according to the PRINTED PEDIGREE of 1888 and other Scottish sources. This son, James, is shown as a "M. D. ("surgeon" or "barber/ surgeon," in earlier sources) of Edinburgh and died unmarried." Personally, I feel the compiler of the pedigrees did not know what happened to this James and several listing on this pedigree bear the inscription, "became a surgeon and died unmarried." With no real proof other than family tradition, I am going to assume, at this time, that this James was the James that was transported to America in 1674. This would put James at around the age of 50 when he arrived in America.)
"In the Maryland Patent Series, Liber 18, page 152, the following passage is found. "A List of Servants Transported by Samuell Gibbons of Bristoll in the Ship Batchellor of Bristoll 1674." This document contains three columns of names; the last name in the lefthand column is "James Grear." The document is dated 2 November 1674 and reads. "Then came the within named Samuel Gibbons and proved Rights unto four Thousand five hundred acres of Land it being due to him for Transporting the ninety persons herein mentioned - into this province to Inhabit before me (torn) Charles Calvert." The situation was that the various Lords Baltimore offered land in the new colony of Maryland, 50 acres per person, to persons willing to make the journey and to help colonize the province. Also, individuals who paid the transportation costs for another person or persons were, then, entitled to claim that person's acreage as reimbursement. Interestly, Samuel Gibbons sold his rights to the land to Robert Ridgely of St. Mary's County who then sold it back to Charles Calvert!" (This information and a copy of page 152 of Liber 18 is from OUR GREER FAMILY HISTORY by Thomas H. Greer, 1983, pages 80 - 81.)
(NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: I have found no proof that this James Greer was the same James Greer who married Ann Taylor. There is no marriage record of which I am aware, but it has been placed in some records that they married June 6, 1687. This was the date of the first proven connection of our immigrant ancestor, as Arthur Taylor mentions "James Grear, and Ann, his wife" in his will and gave him land that was later passed on down to John Greer, the only recorded son of James Greer and Ann Taylor. This will does not show that Ann, wife of James Grear, to be his daughter. But, from a deposition made by the son, John Greer in 1738, that he (John) was born about 1688 and that his mother, Ann Grear was a daughter of Arthur Taylor. This would place the marriage of James Greer and Ann Taylor in 1887 or before, as also proved by Arthur Taylor's will. If the James who married Ann Taylor, is the same James who was transported in 1674, and as John seemed to have been their only child, then they probably would not have married many years before he was born. Therefore, James Greer would have been about 55 to 60 years old when he married. It was been said that James was killed, but I see no proof of this. If this James was over 60 years old in 1688, then there is a good chance that he died of old age. Other researchers feel the James Greer who arrived in America in 1674 was born about 1656, but this appears to be based on the thinking that all men who came over were young men, so he would have been about 18 years of age.)
"June 6, 1687. To all Christian people, to whom these presents shall come ... I, Arthur Taylor, of Gunpowder River, in Baltimore County, Maryland, Planter, for and in consideration of natural love and affection which I have and do bear unto James Grear and Ann, his wife, as also for divers and other good reasons and considerations and hereunto especially moving and do by these presents, give, grant, alein, enfoff their heirs and assigns, unto James Grear and Ann, his wife, their heirs and assigns forever, 75 acres of land, being part of a greater tract of 300 acres belonging to the said Arthur, and called, "Arthur's Choice", lying and being situated in Baltimore County, and on the south side of a branch of the Gunpowder River, called Bird Run, beginning at a red oak standing on the said river and running from said oak bounding with the ... run ... east-north-east 53 perches by a line into the woods for length 300 ... thence by a line down west-south-west from the end south-south-east ... east to line 53 perches ... Witness: Samuel Sickelman, Amos Thompson - Signed Arthur Taylor (his X mark)." (Hall of Records, Annapolis, Maryland, R. M. # H. S., Vol. 1, page 261.) This same land was held in trust for the "orphan of James Greer named John" until he reached age. Neither James Greer or his wife Ann left a will that has been located.
........................... "James Greer. His name is mentioned in Playfair (BRITISH ANTIQUITY, by Sir William Playfair, Volume 7, pages 506-513, published in London, England, 1811) and is included in the Family Chart, nothing more. It may be assumed, as in many similar cases, that he left the country. He was born circa 1627 and it is asked if he may be the James Greer who was transported into Maryland in 1675, by Samuel Gibbon, who was granted 4500 acres of land for transporting 90 person into Maryland (see above)."
"The key name in connection with this "Greer Family, Originating in Maryland," is James Grear whose earliest record in Maryland is in the Hall of Records, Annapolis, "Early Settlers Book 18, Folio 152": "James ....FINISH..... ...................TORRENCE, began page 141............ (GREGOR, MacGREGOR, MacGHEE, MAGRUDER, GRIERSON, GRIER, GREER --- A HISTORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE ABOVE FAMILIES AND MANY OF THEIR DESCENDANTS, 1954, compiled by Robert M. Torrence, A.B., F.G.S.P., F.I.A.G., 110 Edgevale Road Baltimore 10, Maryland, pages 41, .)
Notes for ANN (ANNA) TAYLOR:
"Ann (Taylor) Greer was living June 6, 1687 when she and James Greer received the 75 acres from his father. She was the wife of Lawrence Richardson at the time he held trust in the 75 acres of land for "John, ye orphan son of James Greer." She was the wife of Oliver Harriott at the time he was custodian for these same acres for John Grear, March 14, 1714, when Ann released her dower rights in this land when John and Sarah sold it to Mark Guisard.
Child of JAMES GREER and ANN TAYLOR is:
36. i. JOHN27 GREER, b. Bet. 1682 - 1688, Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, MD; d. September 15, 1750, Baltimore County, MD.
Generation No. 27
36. JOHN27 GREER (JAMES26, JAMES25 GRIER, WILLIAM24 GRIERSON, ROGER23, JOHN22, ROGER21, ROGER20, VEDAST19, GILBERT18, GILBERT17, MALCOM DOMINUS16 DE MACGREGOR, GREGOR15 MACGREGOR, WILLIAM14, MALCOLM13, JOHN12, GREGOR11, JOHN10, GREGOR9 DE BHRATTICH, CONSTANTINE8, DONGALLUS7, GREGOR6 MACALPINE, DUNGAL5 THANE, HUGH "THE4 POISONOUS" IV, AED3 FINN, HUGH2 III, HUGH1 II) was born Bet. 1682 - 1688 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, MD, and died September 15, 1750 in Baltimore County, MD. He married (1) CHLOE JONES. He married (2) SARAH DAY March 04, 1704 in St John's Parish, Joppa, Baltimore County, MD. She was born Abt. 1686 in Baltimore County, MD, and died Abt. 1758 in Baltimore County, MD.
Notes for JOHN GREER:
"John Greer, as his name is spelled in all of his records, was born in Baltimore County in 1688, as will be proven, and was a planter at the same time speculated in lands to a considerable extent. His first land consisted of the 75 acres which he inherited from his parents; his purchases were from 1718 to 1720 and his sales were from 1714 to 1748. After 1748, his name is not found in Maryland records. In order to verify the above statements, that John Greer was the son of James Grear and his wife, Ann Taylor, and that John Greer was born in 1688, copies of Court Records will follow:
"BOOK T. R. #A, fOLIO 333, TRANSCRIBED FROM LIBER 15, FOLIO 296-71: "John Greer to Walter Bosley: This Indenture, 4 March 1714, John Greer, of Baltimore County, Maryland, planter, has received rent from and sells to Walter Bosley 75 acres, being part of Arthur's Choice in Baltimore County, on the South side of Gunpowder River, called Bird's Run, beginning at a red oak... (The entire description will not be copied, because it is exactly as shown in the original grant from Arthur Taylor to James and Ann Greer.) "Be it remembered that on 4 March 1714, came Ann Harriott, mother of said Greer and Sarah, his wife, both of whom being privately examined by Luke Raven, Gent., one of the Justices of the City Court of Baltimore County, acknowledged all their rights of Dower to the within mentioned, bargained and sold land and improvements on the premises of the said John Grear, likewise acknowledged in open Court, according to the Act of Assembly. Signed John Stokes."
"BALTIMORE COURT PRECEEDINGS - LAND COMMISSION, LIBER H.W.S. NO. 2, FOLIO 144, 1732 DEPOSITIONS: "John Greer testified of having been informed, some fourteen or fifteen years before, by his uncle, John Taylor, then Deputy Surveyor, that the beginning tree of Heathcoat's cottage was a bounded poplar tree which stood at the head of the first draft above Nicholas Day's plantation, near to an Indian cabin and that at some small distance from the place where the deponent now stands, being a bounded poplar tree standing near the head of a great drain on the third branch on the North side of the main falls of the Gunpowder River, there appeared to have been formerly made an Indian cabin." (This again confirms that John Grear's mother was Ann Taylor, since her brother, John Taylor was his uncle.)
"MARYLAND HISTORY MAGAZINE, Volume 18, page 21: "In 1738, John Greer deposed that he had been bitten by a rattlesnake in the woods about 30 perches above the mouth of the Long Green River and futher, that he was 50 years old at that time." This places his birth as in 1688.
"BALTIMORE COURT PRECEEDINGS - LAND COMMISSION, LIBER W.B.M. VOLUME 16, FOLIO 147: "July 25, 1743, before the Land Commission held to determine the bounds of a tract called, Thompson's Tott, laid out for George Thompson. That thirty years ago, or there about, Mr. John Taylor, who then lived on the South side of Gunpowder River near the ferry and afterward went to Carolina, and if now living is seventy-eight, the said John Taylor shewed this deponent a bounded black and red oak which this deponent now sheweth unto us, fairly bounded by three trees... the aforesaid oak stands on the East side of a swampy stream descending into Momigold Run, now called Honeygo Run." (This is given to establish the birth date of John Taylor, as 1665.)
"ANN ARUNDEL & BALTIMORE COUNTIES - RENT ROLLS NO 1, FOLIO 230: "Greers park, 100 acres, rent 4 shillings, surveyed to John Greer, 3 February 1718, lying on the Great Falls of Gunpowder River in Baltimore County, patented to said Greer, 6 March 1732, Certificate A.M., #1, folio 213, Patent P.L. #8, folio 802. These same 100 acres were transferred to Mark Guishard, 5 April 1748, by John Greer and his wife, Sarah, did not join in the Deed. (T.B. #E., folio 715.)"
"ANN ARUNDEL & BALTIMORE COUNTIES - RENT ROLL NO. 1, FOLIO 259: "Greers Improvement, 58 acres, rent 2 shillings, 6 pence, surveyed for John Greer, 24 January 1720, lying on North side of Main Falls of Gunpowder River. Certificate E.I. #3, folio 289. Patented E.I., #4, folio 167. John Greer sold these to Mark Guishard 5 April 1748. T.B. #E., folio 715. Wife did not join in Deed."
"ANN ARUNDEL & BALTIMORE COUNTIES - CERTIFICATE E.I. #3, FOLIO 443: Greer's Discovery, 92 acres, rent 0-3-8 1/2, surveyed to John Greer 24 January 1720, lying on North side of Main Falls of Gunpowder River. Patented to Thomas Greer, Liber E.L. #4, folio 410. John Greer transferred these 92 acres to Mark Guishard 2 March 1747, wife did not join in Deed. It is here assumed that Sarah Greer died following the birth of her twin sons, Benjamin and Joseph Greer, born 6 January 1727.
"Consulted Maryland records fail to disclose Wills for either John Greer or his wife, Sarah, so the names of their children have had to (be) established through records to be quoted in each case. Before listing their names, because this is a controvercial question, the following references are given:
"SCOTCH - IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, (AUGUSTA COUNTY RECORDS, page 275) VOLUME 3, page 18, by Lyman C. Chalkley.: "15 September 1750 - John Greer's Noncupative Will: Debts to be paid to William Long, William Neil, John Kennedy and Nathaniel Patterson; son, Alexander, to be bound to a trade; one child to be bound to John Mitchell; one child to be bound to S. D. (sic, evidently Samuel Doak); oldest girl to go to some decent woman to learn housewifery." Executors: John Mitchell and Samuel Doak. Teste: James Corwin, John Mitchell, Samuel Doak, Francis Beatey." IBID. VOLUME 3, PAGE 446: "22 September 1750, John Greer's Vendue: Sold to John Lockhart, John Roseman, Sarah Lynn, John Teat, John Mitchell, Chilpa Kelley, George Buckingham, Thomas Scott, Jane Lynn, Thomas Teat and Francis Beatey. John New." IBID. PAGE 26 (AUGUSTA COUNTY RECORD, page 447): "24 August 1752, John Mitchell and Samuel Doage (sic.) gave bond as guardians apointed for Rebecca, Alexander, Martha and Mary Greer, orphan children of John Greer, deceased, with Surety, Francis Beatey." IBID. VOLUME 1, PAGE 66 (AUGUSTA COUNTY ORDER BOOK, NO. 4, PAGE 331.): "Samuel Doak and John Mitchell, guardians for the orphan children of John Greer, made final settlement, 22 November 1754."
"It is not known upon what date John Greer went to Virginia, presumably to be nearer his older children. While proof is lacking, it is thought the documents, above quoted, apply to the John Greer, born in Baltimore County, Maryland in 1688, who must have married again, some time after the death of his first wife, Sarah, assumed to have died after January 1727, and by his second marriage became the father of four additional children: Rebecca, Alexander, Martha and Mary Greer. His second wife must have predeceased him, since her name was not mentioned in his Will and his children were spoken of as orphans. The fact that his estate was settled 22 November 1754, it is obvious that his youngest child, Mary, had reached maturity, 18 for a daughter, or at marriage, at or before that date. Accordingly, her birth date would be about 1736; Martha in 1734; Alexander in 1732 and Rebecca in 1730, close to three years after the death of Sarah, his first wife. It must be remembered that in Augusta County, Virginia, at that time, there many others by name of Greer, such as those from Andrew Greer to Tennessee and others from The Carolinas. It is very difficult to seggregate them, John Greer, born in 1688, would have been but sixty-two years old at his death, in 1750. This sketch is based on the above conclusion and will credit John Greer with children, thirteen: Their names will follow:" [children and descendants listed.] (GREGOR, MacGREGOR, MacGHEE, MAGRUDER, GRIERSON, GRIER, GREER --- A HISTORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE ABOVE FAMILIES AND MANY OF THEIR DESCENDANTS, 1954, compiled by Robert M. Torrence, A.B., F.G.S.P., F.I.A.G., 110 Edgevale Road Baltimore 10, Maryland, pages 144 - 148 .)
(NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: The following sources are mentioned by Bell (others?) Rent Roll #1 folio 259; Book E.L. #4 folio 410; General information about John Greer as per J. B. Bell in GREER KINSMEN from Mrs. Vivian G. White, expert on this family, 1970; Marge Hankins, 1986, who lists Gayle Holmes, Ann Hughes Farnsworth, Margretta Schrader, Dr. Benjamin Cartwright and research in Kentucky and Missouri as her sources. Carolyn Beal lists her sources as T. N. Greer; Sylvester Greer; Mary Weaver Garcia; Darlene Leese (T Bar Ranch, Eldorado, Oklahoma 73537); and the Mormon Records submitted by Ellen Greer Rees.)
"Many compilations on the Greer family show Sarah (Day) Greer's death date from 1742 to 1747. This date seems to have been based on Sarah not signing any deed releases during 1747 and 1748. However, a logical scenerio could be as follows: According to the vestry books, in Baltimore County, "John Greer was admonished for co-habitating unlawfully with one Chloe Jones (not dated)."" (ROYAL HERITAGE OF THE GREERS by Carolina Beal, 1985, page 33.) (NOTE FROM RALPH TERRY: Sarah, John's wife, apparently, separated from him and went to live with her son, Aquilla at the Chilimara Plantation (as seen by a land lease record found under Aquilla Greer). John was still in Baltimore County, Maryland where he had four additional children, possibly by Chloe Jones. John later moved to Augusta County, Virginia. His last four children were possibly born out of wedlock, as they were not accepted by John's older children and were bound out to pay John's debts after his death. As some sources show Obadiah Pritchett to be Sarah's second husband, rather than her first husband, she could have married him after separating from John.)
Children of JOHN GREER and CHLOE JONES are:
i. REBECCA28 GREER, b. Abt. 1730.
ii. ALEXANDER GREER, b. Abt. 1732.
iii. MARTHA GREER, b. Abt. 1734.
iv. MARY GREER, b. Abt. 1736.
Children of JOHN GREER and SARAH DAY are:
37. v. AQUILLA28 GREER, b. Bet. 1716 - 1719, Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, MD; d. Aft. April 08, 1790, Green County, GA.
vi. JAMES GREER.
vii. WILLIAM SR. GREER.
viii. MOSES GREER.
ix. JOHN JR. GREER.
x. SARAH GREER.
Notes for SARAH GREER:
born about 1720/21 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, Maryland. She was christened on 15 Feb 1721 in St John's Parish, Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, Maryland. She died after 15 Feb 1721 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore County, Maryland. "Sarah Greer was a twin of Ann and died as an infant." (GREER KINSMEN by J. B. Bell). "Sarah died at seven years of age." (GREERS THAT GOT TO GEORGIA by Julian Greer). The birth (or christening ?) date of Sarah and Ann Greer is recorded in St. John's Parish Records, page 99.
"But who is the Sarah Greer who witnessed the will (of John Greer, Jr.)? Is She Sarah Day Greer, wife of John Greer Sr or I and mother of John Greer, Jr or III? If so, it is strange that we have not come across her and John Greer Sr or I in any records since the late 1740's in Baltimore County, Maryland. Then, too, she would have been in her 90's by the time of this will, 1782. Also, Moses Greer's testimony in 1769, as I have pointed out, makes it sufficiently clear that John Greer Sr or I and his wife Sarah Day Greer were both dead by 1749 or close thereafter. Very probably this Sarah Greer who witnesses the will was none other than John Greer Jr or II's sister Sarah who never married." (MY GREER AND RELATED FAMILIES, by Clayton Alvis Greer, page 70.)
xi. ANN GREER.
xii. THOMAS GREER.
xiii. JOSEPH GREER.
xiv. BENJAMIN GREER.
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