Abstract:  Time, in warped spacetime, has some of the 
properties of a field, like magnetism or gravity.

Further, Joseph_sixpack's intuitive hypothesis is that Time 
Dilation is caused by curved space and not by velocity.

Wait a minute... what's wrong with that first sentence?  
Gravity IS warped spacetime.  Warped spacetime is not a 
field.  But it is sure fieldlike...  lots of confusion 
surrounding this concept. More on that later.  oh well, 
thinking like a puddle of mud again...

Some of the field properties Time doesn't appear to have, is 
strength.  At least not the commonly understood aspects of 
strength.  That is time doesn't get weaker or stronger like 
gravity or magnetism does.  At first intuition, time would 
appear to want to run faster under severe gravitational, 
er... warped spacetime conditions. Why?  Well placing time 
in a denser warpage environment would seem to make time run 
faster and not slower.  Facts as reported appear to be 
otherwise. 

Let's resay that:  So the speeding up as warped spacetime 
increases would be the first guess of joseph_sixpack.  Why?  
because they say that as you speed up mass increases which 
makes sense as all the little wigglies are moving faster and 
faster and therefore generating ever increased field 
strengths  

But instead, i guess everybody says the opposite is true, so 
we will go with the majority vote.  So as time slows down 
all the wigglies slow down and that doesn't seem to make for 
more mass.

This fieldlike property of Time is very interesting and 
invites one to assume that TIME is dependent, and has 
dependent alterable fieldlike properties as well, which are 
both unique in qualitative and quantitative aspects.  (okay 
smarty, what is quantitative about time and what is 
qualitative about time?)



                Well, that was a mouthful...

Anyhow, it would appear that time just putts along, ticking 
away normally under nominal gravitational conditions.

But as the rubber sheet (curved space) is almost completely 
distorted when a mass generates an escape velocity 
approaching the speed of light, Time follows along, its 
tick-tocks slowing down with the increased warpage of 
spacetime.  (i still don't understand why it slows down 
instead of speeding up?  oh well.)

This is much like radiation if it is being stretched as well 
and thus effectively lowering the frequency (or energy?) to 
outside viewers (if that is even possible) when compared to 
a clock that is under nominal gravitational conditions.

This hypothesis gives rise to the suspicion that time may be 
just another fieldlike event that has some characteristics 
common to all field type phenomena.



One starts to wonder whether gravitational field (warped 
spacetime) is the long lost invisible 'ether' responsible 
for the propagation of all the various frequencies of 
radiation (superdirt) at the same velocity, c? 

This intuitive idea floated around for about eight hours 
before it poofed away.



                           Yikes!

Did i write this?

The problem was the nominal or no gravitation areas in 
space, or the space between two masses that had equal 
gravitation pulling from opposite sides.  Under the 
gravitation is the ether theory, time would do what under 
zero gravity conditions?  We know it alters and dilates 
under a severe gravitational environment.

moan...  please ignore the obvious brain fade.  You'll find out 
more about the frailty of the human mind for a lot of us as 
you get past 70...  Although, i do know some 80 year olds 
who are still as sharp as a tack.  No such luck for joe.



                Okay, so here we go again...

As radiation and mass accelerates to near c velocity in 
being accreted into a black hole whose escape velocity is 
greater than the velocity of light, time distorts and each 
tick-tock becomes further and further apart.  go figure...

The Time process slows down within the now very fast moving 
accreting mass and radiation (dirt and superdirt) in curved 
space of the black hole.

The radiation slows down its frequency and is less and less 
as time distorts and gets longer and longer tick-tocks and 
so it 'loses energy'.  The hypothesis is that Mass undergoes 
a similar effect it's internal resonances of 'mass' causing 
energies slow in their resonant field generation capacities 
relative to mass under nominal gravitational conditions.

So that what joe thinks is what happens is that the E = +/- 
MC2 equation issues forth less and less E for its field 
generation properties and so therefore less and less M Makes 
itself known.  This, uh.. substantially intuitive joe sixpack  
concept is not without some developing or resultant paradoxes.

Anyhow, as one of the results is that:  the M at near c is 
accreted into the black hole mass, intuitively joe thinks that it 
may be dramatically diminished and approaches zero, and may be 
even finally accreted at zero mass of zero temperature and zero 
energy.  It wouldn't even need to slow down after accretion.

Now remember, this is all this on joe's part is just 
intuition and not proven reality.  As to how you can run 
experiments and prove anything of this type is beyond me.  A 
joe is a joe is a joe. 

So now we are back to a huge buildup the inert nonmass mass 
of an earlier chapter created by black hole accretion 
events.  (see chapter 21 - Dark Matter)

Does this fly in the face of "The equilibrium of Energy 
and/or Mass can neither be created or destroyed" tantra?  
Well, apparently not really as both are under different time 
dilation conditions.

Well, anyhow... i am sure the brainiac's at CERN can explain 
and clarify correctly all this, perhaps error ridden, 
intuitive stuff.

The problem with the intuitive concept is that it would 
leave black holes with no operative way to warp spacetime as 
they wouldn't be able to generate any gravity if the 
accreting nonmass hypothesis is correct.  Or would it?.

Anything that went into a black hole would just vanish as 
non-mass or 'unmass' and not even be present as radiation 
due to the time dilations involved at velocities of c.
Moreover it probably wouldn't even be hot since the energy 
with respect to time would be so low.

Does anyone see any minor issues here?  So inside our almond 
of a black hole, we have it accreting and changing mass to 
nonmass or unmass.   sigh...   oh well...

So it would appear that the 'veracity' or accuracy of the 
intuition depends a lot on the training of the intuitionee 
and the term 'counter-intuitive' is a quite meaningless 
phrase.  What is counter-intuitive to one may not be 
counter-intuitive to another.  Is seems that there is an 
integrity and a hierarchy of intuition that may be called 
upon, depending upon the extent of accurate scientific 
training.

Thus endeth joseph_sixpack's intuitive guide to the 
universes.

So whip out your red pencil and mark up what you disagree 
with.  joe has already given it his best shot.

you figure it out.

And after meditating on black holes and gravity, don't 
forget to pray, because as members of a black hole, they are 
hot after our dumb asses.

Work on the graces of anti-gravity and the brilliance of 
light.  We may make it to the land of sunshine yet...



After a good nights sleep and the deep inhalation of helium joe 
trys again...

Well, lets see what happens when try to talk.
  
Yikes, i sound funny
  Oops! i am running out of 
gas.

Okay, anyhow let me get this out at least:  Time dilation 
is caused by curved space and NOT by velocity.  Merely 
zooming along at close to c in nominal gravitational 
conditions wouldn't dilate time.  Time dilates when space 
warps due to increased field "voltages" due to increased 
pressures upon the generating masses

Now, looking at it from a symbol minded point of view it 
seems to joe that Time is dilated as the simple reciprocal 
of spacetime curvature.  The more gravity (spacetime 
warpage) the more time dilates.

As spacetime curvature (gravity) approaches its singularity, 
maximum time dilation occurs and time stops!  

Well, that brings up another issue.  Can we get time to run 
backward by accreting mass so that the escape velocity 
exceeds c?  With that happening, the event horizon would be 
increasingly further out from the surface of the black hole 
as the pressures and mass increased.  joe isn't able to 
think his way through this yet.  so for now, it doesn't seem 
likely that he'll ever dream up a way to ever get dilated 
time to reverse.

Plus, i get a terrible paradox of matter vanishing as time 
slows down (dilates) to a near zero tick-tock rate, instead 
of matter increasing as it approaches c.

For an intuitive joe, the tick tock rate would have to speed 
up instead of slowing down for matter to increase for the 
reason that the wigglies inside the quantum mass would be 
speeded up and generate more field strength.

Anyhow, it is well beyond his ability to provide anything 
but conjectures.  And not conjecture in the mathematical 
sense of the word but just in the plain flat ass conjectures 
sense.

Anyhow, Time seems to turn out to be some sort of warpable 
field, except in a reciprocal fashion If time dilates with 
the curvature of space under immense gravitational (warpage) 
conditions.

So, again let me mention that Time dilation is caused by 
spacetime warpage (curved space) and NOT by velocity or 
velocities approaching c.  A good example is all the 
particles zooming around at c.  According to that then they 
should be amassing ever increased mass.  Which of course 
they don't.

Joe, only offering intuitive hypotheses, may be missing the 
boat here somewhere... any ideas to offer?