How to make a Solar System

a few hypotheticals on the creation of the solar system

by Joseph_Sixpack

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Abstract:  There are a few issues about the origin of the 
solar system and how Saturn & Uranus managed to form under 
the 'standard' accretion theory of Solar System formation.

Many scientists think that Saturn & Uranus shouldn't be 
there under the accretion theory because they are too far 
away from the sun.

Under the accretion theory of solar system formation, all 
the planets and the asteroids formed and gradually coalesced 
by crashing and banging into one another's spacetime warpage 
(gravitational) dimple.

Under the solar system accretion theory, there was only one 
big dimple on campus which belonged to the sun.

Attempts to make computer models of the events failed 
however because, as it turned out, there was no way the 
Saturn and Uranus could have been formed under the existing 
accretion theories because they didn't coalesce using the 
computer accretion models.  They were just too far away.
I don't know whether the model included the Kuiper belt and 
the Oort "cloud" as part of the solar system creation 
process but i don't know how you can leave it out and say 
you have a model of the solar system.

Spacetime warpage dimples are an interesting concept.  They 
really are not dimples at all in fact, but just a rough 
concept to explain spacetime.

The dimples are really just spherical realities, that is,
a reality on every point of a sphere surrounding the 
causational gravitational mass.

The simple rubber sheet geometry of a dimple helps explain 
spacetime warpage and time dilation.  The rubber sheet 
dimple is not the reality, the spherical dimple is.  

In addition however, the dimpling concept of Einstein 
allegedly did away with the presumption of a supporting 
physical underlayer, known as the Æther, upon which 
fields were given operational effectiveness or something 
like that...


A Sad Note: (Occasionally... it gets real depressing to realize that you don't know for sure a thing about anything around you. sigh...) :-(
Okay... back to Saturn and Uranus and solar system formation. The accretion theory works as long as the dimple is effective in drawing mass into it at some above minuscule rate. Saturn and Uranus apparently are out of gravitational range. Okay... so what is the kuiper belt and the Oort cloud all about then?... so... Guess #1: (not necessarily the best) Big cloud of gas slowly accreted into glops. Central Proto became the sun, planets all ate up the remaining stuff, growing as they did. The main 'dimple', formed by the protosun formed the deepest dimple into which everything slowly accreted as their forward velocity was probably too slow to maintain orbit and maybe even zero or close to it. That is why today there are no planets and we do not exist. Smart idea huh? Guess #2: (not necessarily the best) Same as above except everything was revolving fast enough to establish a stable orbit relative to their mass to stay out of the kitchen. A lot probably didn't. Guess #3: (getting closer) TWO, not one, protosuns fell into a closing orbit and accelerating, left behind a LOT of debris with proper forward (x,y) velocities to maintain an orbit velocity fast enough to keep from going to the kitchen, where upon they slowly accreted enough local space glop to become an orbiting planet, and left behind Oort cloud stuff, and Kuiper belt stuff. But the Oort and Kuiper probably did/do pick up a lot of stuff as the solar system hurls through space at lebenty-leben miles per hour on its way to the 'Great Trash Compactor'. As the two protosuns merged into one dimple of course there was then enough mass or nearly enough to commence the fusion process. Voila! a star was born. If not right away, then after a lot more slower glop fell into the dimple to increase the mass of the sun to ignition status. This is evident by the gazillion parking lot dents on the moon, mars, venus, as well as on a lot of space rubbish comets and asteroids. Our moon may have been an independent orbiting ball of swiss cheese that simply got picked up by the earth in the early days or it may have formed from the same glop that the earth did. Joe don't know and doesn't wanna bother with the moon problem as it is totally inedible. The original orbit of the moon around the earth was much closer and is steadily enlarging and going away, soon to fly off somewhere else in disgust at all the trash left behind by earthlings. Where it goes, and when, is a mathematician's guess and not a joe's. Tides will decrease. Contrariwise if something whacks it back in our court. The two protosun concept is very much like the Universe+ hypothesis on how galaxies are formed, albeit, on a much smaller scale. The two protosun hypothesis of solar formation explains why forward closing velocity of the two protosuns was sufficient enough as the gobs of gorp were left behind in space to accret and to keep things in orbit because of the x,y vectors that existed upon closing to form the one dimple upon which, none of the planets fell into the kitchen. Or if some of them did, they aren't talking. Small planets with accompanying rings and moons may have had the same binary formation principles as the two protosun concept. All dimples, no matter how big or how small, run downhill. So the alternate sub-hypothesis is that the ringed planets themselves were just very small "mini-in-making" binary protosuns and were just captured by the much larger and major binary protosuns. Alternatively, the ringed gas planets may have been the first gas/particle products to fall off the increasing acceleration of the two original protosuns and subsequently accreted the remainder of their mass in further orbits over time. That just leaves the asteroid belts, the kuiper belt, and the Oort Cloud to figure out... These could have been a proto planet that just got whacked by a grumpy asteroid gravitationally falling into the dimple of the two protosuns and then distributed its stuff, as least what remained in orbit, in a orbital fashion over the eons. what didn't remain in orbit either hit other planets or escaped to more distant space to resume its own accretion activities undisturbed to one day become a full grown protosun too. Or it might just be leftover falloff stuff as the two protosuns accelerated towards one another. These are going to take a lot more thought. Anyhow, if anyone asks, that is how joe thinks our solar system "Milky" was formed. Joe's theory is that there are gazillions of single protosuns out there in the cosmos and if we look we may see a few of them become binaries and then see them light up slowly to form their own solar system within our own galaxy. Lots of milk out there. To a joe, there are really only three things involved in solar formations. One is mass, the other is mass velocity. That is, dirt and dirt clumps speeding along towards one another and the third is the gravitational dimples (warped spacetime) that are causative in the effects of mass as it collects. It's a sand blast machine out there folks... if the sand doesn't get you, the rocks will, and if the rocks don't get you, the boulders will, and if the boulders don't get you, the superdirt (radiation) will. stay home. for most of us, if we spread our wings and head for the sky we are going to get shot down. don't go there.
Now for something really different SOLARSYS.HTML part 2 O.K., Everybody is happy now going 'round and 'round the ferris wheel of the sun and the entire solar system has settled down for the most part. The beach chairs and umbrellas are all out and everybody on the beach is getting crispy. When Oops! yet another protosun far, far, away notices that it is going downhill very slowly into someones else's dimple. Let's give the protosun a name and call it, ummm..., "Putt-Putt". Putt-Putt starts its descent into the far, far, away center of "Milky's" dimple very slowly at first, but then things start banging and clattering into Putt-Putt. It just got close to the Oort cloud and started to suck up dust from Oort before it even got into Oort. Putt-Putt, our wandering protosun really disturbed Oort bad during its passage and started on a serious weight gain program. Astronomers on Earth finally notice the man who is about to come for dinner but most are told to say and think it is just a dust cloud at first so as not to alarm any crispys basking on the beach. Putt-Putt continues on downhill until it get near the Kuiper belt. All of a sudden a rockslide started towards the Masked invader. All the defensive arrows speeding from the Kuiper belt did one of five things: 1) Some made a direct hit on Putt-Putt and went bang and clatter. Putt-Putt's velocity and direction didn't change a bit as the vectored forces from the impacts as measured against Putt-Putt's minor acceleration towards the incoming all zeroed out. 2) Some missed Putt-Putt by a x miles and were just accelerated out into space to start a life of slow accretion to protosun status or larger if they were lucky and didn't fall into someone else's dimple and join up with them. 3) Some missed Putt-Putt by x-y miles and just zoomed around Putt-Putt and were redirected into the area that Milky and his buddies occupied. 4) Some zoomed close, but fast enough, to orbit Putt-Putt and just changed dimples for a while, zooming around Putt- Putt instead of Milky. 5) But for many of the remainder, most were just gravitationally disturbed and zoomed here, there, and everywhere, depending on how close Putt-Putt came near. The Kuiper belt contains a lot of heavy warrior stone souls so there was a lot of grief. Putt-Putt keeps slowly accelerating, and keeps going in a downhill direction towards and into the center of milky's dimple. What happens next depends on who or what planets were in the way of Putt-Putt as he keeps accelerating towards the bottom of Milky's dimple. Gravitationally disturbed orbits of most if not all the planets might make it hard to find a place to get a cup of coffee if a third protosun or even smaller object makes its entrance into the solar system's warped spacetime. And forget the crispies.
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