GRAVITY WAVES

     Yet another Joseph Sixpackian Hypothesis:

Spacetime warpage exists due to existing mass.
Where there is no new mass there is no new spacetime 
warpage.

Right or Wrong?

answer:  wrong
                           Except

You would expect the answer to be "right".  Mass completely 
controls spacetime warpage.  The bigger the dirt clod, the 
more gravity.  sounds reasonable.  The bigger the meadow 
muffin on the bottom of your shoe, the heavier it feels.
Or is that related to gravity at all?

Spacetime warpage, by the way is just a fancy way of saying 
gravity.  Or is that gravity is a bad way of saying 
spacetime warpage.  Have no doubt, physicists are a breed 
apart.  Mathematicians all, they are a really symbol minded 
group.  They tell me that they can even make metal explode. 
(uranium). 

Anyhow, when an existing black hole or perhaps even when a 
lesser massed, visible system collapses due to its great 
mass, (external pressures) it places the gravity causing 
gravatronic (new word!) elements within the collapsed plasma 
closer together and thereby releasing a lot of energy in the 
process.

The collapse increases the density and therefore the 
effectiveness and efficiency of the polar linkage of the 
quantum polar spacetime warping elements in the quantum 
particle and therefore increases the warpage of spacetime 
(gravity).  Pitooey!  boy, that was a mouthful... now 
gargle.

This increased (due to collapse) warped spacetime field 
(gravitation) value might then propagate out at c or at 
whatever rate the physicists have democratically voted on to 
let its neighbors know that there is more "pull" from that 
collapsed dirt clod.

And as you might have guessed, fieldlike, the gravity 
weakens, and weakens, and weakens, over the distances like 
any good field should.  In fact, the physicists even have a 
formula for it.  I do too, somewhere.  Just don't ask me to 
find it. 

So, the answer is:  wrong.  Gravitation increases when the 
effectiveness of the gravity causing mechanisms within the 
mass increases.  The closer together the "gravitrons" are 
the better they are at warping spacetime.

Now when the mass collapses, it showers/emits/gives off, a 
great amount of radiation or other plasma type elements 
"squeezed out" from the collapsing mass and then which go 
forth and in so doing strike other particles with some force 
and cause a shower of light and possible other emissions on 
other wavelengths and bonk protons and other mysterious 
thingys out in space, sending them on their way like being 
hit by a cue ball or zorked along magnetically.

If a collapse occurs within a black hole, another situation 
occurs, and that is an "IF they can escape the black hole 
otherwise, they are contained on the outside of the solid 
but inside the event horizon as somewhat nasty hi-powered 
radiation, buzzing about a central very dense hard ball.

As an aside hypothesis, there are no real or actual 
singularities inside a black hole other than those that are 
mathematically defined, just compressed trash from the 
cosmic trash compacter.  In fact, at the center of a black 
hole there is NO gravity!  think about it.  All the mass 
surrounding the center forms a zero gravity point.

A zero gravity point is not a "singularity"

Joes are a little confused about singularities anyhow.  For 
joes there are only event horizons, places that you can't 
see and don't appear to be there unless you are too close.

                         Say again?

Let me restate that:
IF the squirted out plasma and radiation escapes the 
collapsing mass, it by so doing, decreases the mass or 
particle count within the collapsing mass.  So you would 
expect a decrease in spacetime warpage (gravity) because of 
less current mass.

BUT the new collapsed mass plasma is now closer together and 
may be more efficient and effective in generating even more 
spacetime warpage.  Go figure...

Any retained particle plasma would be acretted again to the 
solid mass if it lies within the event horizon or if its 
escape velocity was less than any area in which it found 
itself.  The "particles" and the radiation probably would 
just do a magnetic or gravitational arc thing and return.

                      hear ye, hear ye
                  All about gravitational waves

Upon collapse, the newly collapsed mass would be announcing its 
new gravitational status by creating higher spacetime warpage,  
and possibly sending forth the long sought after mystical 
gravitational wave at some velocity to be agreed upon later.

                            No Waves

Hypothesis:  If the system was a binary or higher one then 
even after collapse, we would have rotating periodic warped 
spacetime distortions existing due to a rotating binary 
gravitational mass or masses and thereby creating a rotating 
binary or higher event horizons situation.  (boy, that 
sounds like a lumpy operation)

it wouldn't produce more propagating 'waves' of detectable 
changing warped spacetime (gravity) because there is no new 
mass, but just a local oscillation of gravitational density 
values. that is, the amount of warpage would just go round 
and round, but just locally.  warped spacetime doesn't give off 
"waves" unless mass itself is being oscillated into and out of 
existence which for the life of me, i can't see happening.

The real gravity wave would propagate out at c only once after the 
collapse of the generating mass.  Now that is not to say that the 
binary orbiter wouldn't be beating against something in space 
during its rotations, causing pulses of wavefront radiation to be 
sent forth, but not gravity waves.

           Oscillating Spacetime Warpage at Home

Let's examine that concept on the kitchen table a little bit 
closer.  Get your big lazy susan out and place two basket- 
balls on it.  Get a fishscale and stick a fish on the hook 
park of it and hold the fishscale close to the binary 
basketballs on the lazy susan.  Let the surface of the 
basketballs equal the diameter of both event horizons.

Now spin the susan 'round & 'round while holding the 
fishscale with the fish on it close to the revolving 
basketballs.

Notice that the "event horizon" of the binaries passes close 
increasing the imaginary gravitational attraction and then 
extends the distance (lessening gravitational forces) and 
then close again to the fish on the scale.

The weight of the fish increases or decreases as the binary 
black hole event horizons pass by.  This is an example of 
the warped spacetime (gravitational) oscillations of thingys 
out in space. But the oscillations do not propagate.  The 
oscillating warped spacetime dimensions are sort of like 
thick yucky plastic cement getting stirred up. 

                        Warp is all we do

Warped spacetime would simply warp around a given mass and 
stay warped until mass either increased or decreased.

Hypermassive binary black hole systems in fast orbit simply 
oscillate or carry the warpage with them during orbit 
periods in a non-propagating fashion.

                        More or Less

Upon a massive physical collapse, or perhaps under a Nova 
condition when things explode and reduce the effectiveness 
of the gravitron (gravalump) linkage, is when the field 
things change enough to pump a gravity wave out either 
announcing more spacetime warpage or less spacetime warpage.

                      Warping in place

Otherwise nothing gravitationally new is sent forth.

Gravitationally, everything regarding warpage, just stays in 
place and just warps and that is all it does.

No propagation.
.
                  How fast can a jitter jitter?

An interesting issue is whether a binary system of hyper- 
massive proportions, orbiting at near c or higher (if 
possible) velocity would impact its own spacetime warpage?  

That is, how fast can spacetime warpage follow the object 
that is doing the warpage occur?  Faster than c or limited 
to c?  Smoking shockwaves Sparky!

What would be the velocity of the spacetime warpage around 
the hypermassive binaries in orbit if orbiting faster than 
c?

Would the warpage have to play catchup?

How far behind could warpage get if the mass was traveling 
faster than c?

And more importantly, can any of this theoretical stuff ever 
be verified by observation?

                            Relative?

It isn't very clear to me yet how warped spacetime could be 
detected even if you were placed near moving event horizon 
oscillations or even gravitational oscillations as the whole 
system would alternate.  There wouldn't be any method that i 
can think of to measure relative changes from a single fixed 
testing position.  i am sure there is a way but by me...

That is your job.  

So finally, Joe Sixpack maintains that Periodic warped 
spacetime distortions due to a binary orbit don't produce 
propagating or traveling gravity waves.  they simply 
distort, in the carousel area of their orbit, spacetime.

                           Yeah but...

Yeah but, what if mass IS continually coming into existence 
from nothing (existing big bang extensions) and altering 
spacetime with warpage.  How fast does that travel?

Would/Does warpage propagate at c?

It is as good a guess as any.

But who says mass is continually being generated?  If an 
'expanding' universe is continually squirting toothpaste out 
of an invisible tube, yeah well, then, maybe spacetime 
warpage would putt-putt around too.  But my best guess is 
that nothing of the sort is happening.  But it is a guess.

               But things keep getting worse

If an ever expanding universe is continually squirting 
toothpaste out of a tube, what must the situation be in a 
universe where the expansion rate is accelerating?  Well, 
evermore toothpaste is being squirted out with an ever 
larger hole for the evergrowing toothpaste tube.  Now 
everybody knows that tubes of toothpaste don't get bigger 
sitting on the shelf.  give me a break.  sheesh!

But what if the cosmos was closed?  Then the toothpaste 
would keep squirting out until there wasn't any room for 
anymore.  Nothing but mass and no space left to put it in.  
yuk.  the whole thing collapses again into a nothingness.  
Is anybody sane around here?  

Gravity waves... an interesting concept...

time for my nap...

Anyhow, in sum, it's a joseph_sixpack hypothesis, that 
warped spacetime does not send out gravity waves only a 
change in effective mass either up or down can do that.

Now with respect to laser interferometers, electrons in wires zoom 
along at about 200-300 miles per hour i remember reading once a 
long time ago in a galaxy far away.  The gravity wave would zoom 
up to and across the detector at a speed of c.  i doubt that any 
electron would have time to do anything.  the strain gauges might 
register something, once...

oh well, it is just a joe sixpack idea anyhow...

a thorny issue indeed... :-)

End of gravity wave discussion