The Bose-Einstein Condensate

A few sentences on the Bose-Einstein Condensate

under absolute zero conditions and inside a black hole

by Joseph_Sixpack

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Abstract:  One would intuitively expect mass to exhibit 
different properties under conditions of absolute zero, 
mainly because the cold would tend to reduce the internal 
energies of all the quantum elements that go to make up 
"mass".  But what would the mass act like if it were inside 
a black hole and was at a temperature of absolute zero?

What conditions would one intuitively expect to exist?

hmmm...    an interesting issue...

Well...  here we go.  Joe Sickpath er... joe sixpack is off 
and running again.  Let's see what and where the reasonings 
and ideas of human intuition lead us.


Mass, things that cause spacetime to warp, at absolute zero was first 'scientifically' discussed by an Indian mathematician by the name of Satyendra Nath Bose. His papers and ideas were of course rejected by those who 'knew better' as always, they always 'know better'. But by 1995 the 'knowbetters' were proven to be 'knownothings' and dead wrong. The phenomenon is called the Bose-Einstein Condensate. Mass turns to 'wavejellygoo' so to speak when or as it approaches or hits absolute zero. For more correct and further erudition on the subject, joe respectfully suggests that the YouTube discussion by Dr. Daniel Kleppner be viewed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdzHnAp also interesting and somewhat related is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3asSdnqzLs&NR=1 What was a particle is now a sort of waveform. The extreme cold reduces the internal resonance of the quantum elements and therefore the the energies of the additive polar elements which at higher temperatures acts to create and stabilize the waveform resonance into a 'particle' and generate a mass that causes a specific quantum warped spacetime. Joe thinks (er... guesses) that the internal energies of the protons at absolute zero no longer create or generate a polar attraction sufficient to attract the tiny fizzbits that glue onto the 'surface' of the proton to present its neighbors with its net appearing repulsive like 'hard shell' to the mass. The tiny polar fizzbit gizmos (at this time unnamed and undiscovered) just sort of wander off into outer space looking for more attractive attractors to be attracted to. Activity of the electrons also take a hike and on the way down magnetism gets into the act. All in all, a very messy situation. Just to throw in a guess, there are probably 64 or so fizzbits attracted to each proton that generate the repulsive 'effect' of 'hard' mass at normal temperatures. But the operational word here is 'guess'. But we are interested in what happens to... or more accurately, what may happen to a black hole, if it, in theory at least, internally approached a temperature of absolute zero? How much 'gravity' would now be produced if all the mass within a black hole were held temperaturewise to absolute zero? Now before Joe gets too far along into this imaginative hypothesis, he was told that the ambient temperature of the cosmos is at 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. ummm... i think the degrees are in Kelvin. Something scientists made up. -430° Fahrenheit or something in beach weather. This ambient temperature of the cosmos, however low, apparently is enough to keep the cosmos together. But if the internal temperatures of the black hole ever entropically dropped to absolute zero all the frozen jello protons or something even squishier inside the black hole (your flavor of choice) would cease making/generating the additive polar resonances necessary to produce the warped spacetime effect (gravity). Let's restate: What would happen...? well... joe's best guess is that the required number of solar masses necessary to create a black hole in the first place would increase due to the uniform decrease in the effectiveness of the warped spacetime making processes going on within the black hole due to its temperature of absolute zero. A black hole of a size say... at the borderline of creating an escape velocity of c, say 504 solar masses (or any appropriate other agreed to number) would now need an increased number of solar masses say, up to ummm... just guessing perhaps oh... 540 solar masses to create a c escape velocity. If it couldn't manage to accrete all that extra mass as the temperatures dropped, the new absolute zero squigglies, now a sort of waveform would blast out of the gravitational confinement of the black hole because of a lower than c escape velocity. If, entropically, the entire cosmos or just certain sections of it was/were at an ambient temperature(s) of absolute zero instead of 2.71k as mass in the area reached absolute zero, it would just dissolve into some sort of radiation. Particulate matter would no longer exist. Hard particle collisions of quantum mass would be very rare, if existent at all. Further out on a hypothetical limb, perhaps planets, if they could still hold together from gravity, could pass thru each other, if on collision course, with no dire effects due to the much lowered temperatures of their mass. Sort of like clouds of now ungravitational gas, each traveling in its own direction passing through one another. All this theoretical guessing game baloney makes for an interesting theoretical problem, imagining the nature of absolute zero theoretical particle physics.. Ah... but we have omitted the maximum TIME dilation effects that might exist within a black hole of escape velocity of c. With the massive clock stopped within a mass generating gravity so fierce that light cannot even escape, what would happen to the particles now under a stopped clock situation within such extreme cold? Time dilation is now at its maximum effect. Time has stopped. period. AND! What processes would occur as the TIME clock rate started back up as the gravitational fields dropped? ha! you thought this was going to be easy didn't you? Anyhow... kick the ideas around for a while and see what you come up with.
One or two more things IF, under the condensate phenomenon, mass starts losing it as it approaches absolute zero, THEN any graph of temperature v solar masses required to create an escape velocity approaching c would look like a hyperbolic graph of something like Y=1/x to somen. Y=1/X to the sixth or Y=1/X to the eighth or so looks good on paper but this is an area of potential reality for the real scientists and mathematians to figure out. It, (the exponent) is probably much higher than 2 to 8 as nothing seems to happen to mass until you get real close to absolute zero. In short, it appears to be a real 'tight' hyperbolic. /> Which brings us to another area of intuitive guessing... Looking at the mathematical formula of the hyperbolic function (something that joe's rarely do), you can guess that matter wouldn't even exist in those areas of the cosmos where the internal & external temperatures of mass, theoretically over vast cosmic distances, dropped to absolute zero. Well... what would exist then? As near as intuition can tell just a bunch of proto-quantum protons still in slush stage. If a hot body passed thru it would leave a trail of real particulate. What would its gravitational effects be? A good question, you answer that. But joe guesses that there wouldn't be any, since the weak albeit additive field that creates warped spacetime would no longer be operative because of the reduced internal resonances of the particles that are responsible for the generation of the fields. Anyhow, again, if you want to bother, check out these sites on youtube.com: Magnetism doesn't come out unaffected either. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdzHnAp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3asSdnqzLs&NR=1
Now, just one last 'sortof' hypothesis for your consideration: The very large star forming areas in the cosmos that contain nurseries (immense amounts of distributed 'loose' mass) in which many protostars accrete and then ignite their fusion process may in fact be just cosmic areas (volumes) that have in ages past, gone to the Bose Condensate absolute zero status, distributing their now altered masses over giant volumes of the cosmos and continuing on their galactic vectored movement, and then, after a time, have now absorbed enough heat (energy) from their now new entered areas to start the process of reforming the particulate necessary for accretion and the fusion processes all over again. (How's that for a comma splice Dr. Doyle? One of these days i'll learn to write and think clearly - promise...) At least, it sort of offers a somewhat er... weak explanation of how the stuff got there in the first place. More than likely however, ancient violent displacements were the real culprit. But... who knows? i wasn't there then. You're on. You offer some explanations and figure out why all the cosmic dirt is strewn out in the cosmos the way it is.
Notes For our purposes all mass inside a black hole is at a theoretical temperature of absolute zero. Now, this condition in fact is probably impossible as the alleged temperature of the currently existing cosmos is about 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. so...: mass inside a bh at a temperature of absolute zero has: maintained its warped spacetime ability (gravity). obviously otherwise it wouldn't still be a black hole but lowered its temperature and therefore its sigma of internal energies which probably results in changing the mass from a 'hard particle' condition or reality to a slightly waveform reality and in so doing increased the solar mass requirements to establish a 'c' escape velocity condition necessary for the black hole to exist. Now... how do we explain the polar nature of additive fields that create the phenomena of warped spacetime when most of the mass, now at absolute zero, is just a bunch of wobbly waveforms with no apparent ability to be additive in gravitational effect? At absolute zero, the whole thing would come apart methinks... emitting sub-particle condensate 'radiation' in all directions. sort of lucky for us that the universe is at 2.7 degrees instead of absolute zero. otherwise... maybe...
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