The Bose-Einstein Condensate
A few sentences on the Bose-Einstein Condensate
under absolute zero conditions and inside a black hole
by Joseph_Sixpack
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Abstract: One would intuitively expect mass to exhibit
different properties under conditions of absolute zero,
mainly because the cold would tend to reduce the internal
energies of all the quantum elements that go to make up
"mass". But what would the mass act like if it were inside
a black hole and was at a temperature of absolute zero?
What conditions would one intuitively expect to exist?
hmmm... an interesting issue...
Well... here we go. Joe Sickpath er... joe sixpack is off
and running again. Let's see what and where the reasonings
and ideas of human intuition lead us.
Mass, things that cause spacetime to warp, at absolute zero
was first 'scientifically' discussed by an Indian
mathematician by the name of Satyendra Nath Bose.
His papers and ideas were of course rejected by those who
'knew better' as always, they always 'know better'.
But by 1995 the 'knowbetters' were proven to be
'knownothings' and dead wrong.
The phenomenon is called the Bose-Einstein Condensate.
Mass turns to 'wavejellygoo' so to speak when or as it
approaches or hits absolute zero.
For more correct and further erudition on the subject, joe
respectfully suggests that the YouTube discussion by Dr.
Daniel Kleppner be viewed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdzHnAp
also interesting and somewhat related is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3asSdnqzLs&NR=1
What was a particle is now a sort of waveform. The extreme
cold reduces the internal resonance of the quantum elements
and therefore the the energies of the additive polar
elements which at higher temperatures acts to create and
stabilize the waveform resonance into a 'particle' and
generate a mass that causes a specific quantum warped
spacetime.
Joe thinks (er... guesses) that the internal energies of the
protons at absolute zero no longer create or generate a
polar attraction sufficient to attract the tiny fizzbits
that glue onto the 'surface' of the proton to present its
neighbors with its net appearing repulsive like 'hard shell'
to the mass.
The tiny polar fizzbit gizmos (at this time unnamed and
undiscovered) just sort of wander off into outer space
looking for more attractive attractors to be attracted to.
Activity of the electrons also take a hike and on the way
down magnetism gets into the act. All in all, a very messy
situation.
Just to throw in a guess, there are probably 64 or so
fizzbits attracted to each proton that generate the
repulsive 'effect' of 'hard' mass at normal temperatures.
But the operational word here is 'guess'.
But we are interested in what happens to... or more
accurately, what may happen to a black hole, if it, in
theory at least, internally approached a temperature of
absolute zero?
How much 'gravity' would now be produced if all the mass
within a black hole were held temperaturewise to absolute
zero?
Now before Joe gets too far along into this imaginative
hypothesis, he was told that the ambient temperature of the
cosmos is at 2.7 degrees above absolute zero. ummm... i
think the degrees are in Kelvin. Something scientists made
up. -430° Fahrenheit or something in beach weather.
This ambient temperature of the cosmos, however low,
apparently is enough to keep the cosmos together.
But if the internal temperatures of the black hole ever
entropically dropped to absolute zero all the frozen jello
protons or something even squishier inside the black hole
(your flavor of choice) would cease making/generating the
additive polar resonances necessary to produce the warped
spacetime effect (gravity).
Let's restate: What would happen...? well... joe's best
guess is that the required number of solar masses necessary
to create a black hole in the first place would increase due
to the uniform decrease in the effectiveness of the warped
spacetime making processes going on within the black hole
due to its temperature of absolute zero.
A black hole of a size say... at the borderline of creating
an escape velocity of c, say 504 solar masses (or any
appropriate other agreed to number) would now need an
increased number of solar masses say, up to ummm... just
guessing perhaps oh... 540 solar masses to create a c
escape velocity.
If it couldn't manage to accrete all that extra mass as the
temperatures dropped, the new absolute zero squigglies, now
a sort of waveform would blast out of the gravitational
confinement of the black hole because of a lower than c
escape velocity.
If, entropically, the entire cosmos or just certain sections
of it was/were at an ambient temperature(s) of absolute zero
instead of 2.71k as mass in the area reached absolute zero,
it would just dissolve into some sort of radiation.
Particulate matter would no longer exist. Hard particle
collisions of quantum mass would be very rare, if existent
at all.
Further out on a hypothetical limb, perhaps planets, if they
could still hold together from gravity, could pass thru each
other, if on collision course, with no dire effects due to
the much lowered temperatures of their mass.
Sort of like clouds of now ungravitational gas, each
traveling in its own direction passing through one another.
All this theoretical guessing game baloney makes for an
interesting theoretical problem, imagining the nature of
absolute zero theoretical particle physics..
Ah...
but we have omitted the maximum TIME dilation effects that
might exist within a black hole of escape velocity of c.
With the massive clock stopped within a mass generating
gravity so fierce that light cannot even escape, what would
happen to the particles now under a stopped clock situation
within such extreme cold? Time dilation is now at its
maximum effect. Time has stopped. period.
AND! What processes would occur as the TIME clock rate
started back up as the gravitational fields dropped?
ha! you thought this was going to be easy didn't you?
Anyhow... kick the ideas around for a while and see what you
come up with.
One or two more things
IF, under the condensate phenomenon, mass starts
losing it as it approaches absolute zero, THEN any
graph of temperature v solar masses required to create an
escape velocity approaching c would look like a hyperbolic
graph of something like Y=1/x to somen.
Y=1/X to the sixth or Y=1/X to the eighth or so looks good
on paper but this is an area of potential reality for the
real scientists and mathematians to figure out. It, (the
exponent) is probably much higher than 2 to 8 as nothing
seems to happen to mass until you get real close to absolute
zero. In short, it appears to be a real 'tight' hyperbolic.
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Which brings us to another area of intuitive guessing...
Looking at the mathematical formula of the hyperbolic
function (something that joe's rarely do), you can guess
that matter wouldn't even exist in those areas of the cosmos
where the internal & external temperatures of mass,
theoretically over vast cosmic distances, dropped to
absolute zero.
Well... what would exist then? As near as intuition can
tell just a bunch of proto-quantum protons still in slush
stage. If a hot body passed thru it would leave a trail of
real particulate.
What would its gravitational effects be? A good question,
you answer that. But joe guesses that there wouldn't be
any, since the weak albeit additive field that creates
warped spacetime would no longer be operative because of the
reduced internal resonances of the particles that are
responsible for the generation of the fields.
Anyhow, again, if you want to bother, check out these sites
on youtube.com:
Magnetism doesn't come out unaffected either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdzHnAp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3asSdnqzLs&NR=1
Now, just one last 'sortof' hypothesis for your
consideration:
The very large star forming areas in the cosmos that contain
nurseries (immense amounts of distributed 'loose' mass) in
which many protostars accrete and then ignite their fusion
process may in fact be just cosmic areas (volumes) that have
in ages past, gone to the Bose Condensate absolute zero
status, distributing their now altered masses over giant
volumes of the cosmos and continuing on their galactic
vectored movement, and then, after a time, have now absorbed
enough heat (energy) from their now new entered areas to
start the process of reforming the particulate necessary for
accretion and the fusion processes all over again.
(How's that for a comma splice Dr. Doyle? One of these days
i'll learn to write and think clearly - promise...)
At least, it sort of offers a somewhat er... weak
explanation of how the stuff got there in the first place.
More than likely however, ancient violent displacements were
the real culprit.
But... who knows? i wasn't there then.
You're on.
You offer some explanations and figure out why all the
cosmic dirt is strewn out in the cosmos the way it is.
Notes
For our purposes all mass inside a black hole is at a
theoretical temperature of absolute zero. Now, this
condition in fact is probably impossible as the alleged
temperature of the currently existing cosmos is about 2.7
degrees above absolute zero.
so...:
mass inside a bh at a temperature of absolute zero has:
maintained its warped spacetime ability (gravity).
obviously otherwise it wouldn't still be a black hole
but lowered its temperature
and therefore its sigma of internal energies
which probably results in changing the mass from a 'hard
particle' condition or reality to a slightly waveform
reality and in so doing increased the solar mass
requirements to establish a 'c' escape velocity condition
necessary for the black hole to exist.
Now... how do we explain the polar nature of additive fields
that create the phenomena of warped spacetime when most of
the mass, now at absolute zero, is just a bunch of wobbly
waveforms with no apparent ability to be additive in
gravitational effect?
At absolute zero, the whole thing would come apart
methinks... emitting sub-particle condensate 'radiation' in
all directions.
sort of lucky for us that the universe is at 2.7 degrees
instead of absolute zero. otherwise... maybe...
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