The Intuitive Universes

                  A few words on clusters.

Clusters appear to be harboring the gravitational "nasties" 
of the universe.

Once they get out of their infant, then adolescent stage, 
black holes suck up entire groups of galaxies, getting 
bigger and bigger throughout time.  Often they appear as 
clusters while the surrounding masses get accreted into the 
black hole.  Clusters, the sometimes covering for black 
holes, appear to come in all sizes.  Most however, 
presumably, if approaching black hole status, have a huge 
gravitational field and stronger than normal magnetic fields 
as well, in fact, probably approaching magnetar status due 
to the massive warped spacetime that a cluster engenders.  
If the black holes are a binary or higher system of equal 
mass gravitational objects, they may even have galactic 
"jets" spewing out radiation and mass at ultra high 
velocities if a zero gravity port conditions permit.

Now, before everybody shrieks that clusters are not black 
holes, let me explain (er... hypothesize) that visible 
clusters are probably just a covering layer of visible stars 
or star material in front of a black or binary, tertiary, or 
higher gravitational system.  For example, the Norma cluster 
aka:  "The Great Attractor" (ACO 3627) can in no way NOT be 
a huge black hole system with its gravitation.  

The Norma we see is just a covering for a very nasty Norma
with 50,000,000,000,000,000 solar masses.  i understand that
number reads 'fifty quadrillion' !   

All clusters have to be reexamined for ultra gravity.  
Now certainly, there must be a lot of little low cal 
clusters of stars that are collectively under the 500 or (483) 
less solar mass black hole threshold.  This type of cluster 
would just red-shift out to invisibility as they approached 
the collective escape velocity of c, and actually fool people 
into thinking that they are far, far, away because of the 
red-shifting.  These little systems, as light weight as they 
are, they still require a great amount of care in putt-
putting your spaceship around.  Your spaceship better be 
able to be *(deleted four letter 'f' word)* fast to get out
of high gravity's harm's way.

                      Public Enemy #1

Clusters are the nastiest gravitational *deleted* out 
there.

                         Super Suck

The Norma Cluster, has consumed mass to the point that its 
solar mass, and the gravitation that goes along with it, 
currently amounts to 50,000,000,000,000,000  (5x10^16) solar 
masses, i am told.

Although visible from the death throes of the ingoing 
accreting radiating masses, its event horizon is continually 
growing in diameter and once the shiny stuff is sucked up it 
goes back to its invisibility status until it starts picking 
on our own local group of 46 (plus or minus a few) galaxies 
as well as some other smallish black holes themselves within 
the various accreting galaxies.  Our current ETA at the Norma 
cluster is about 3 billion years.  Last i read it was a 
comfortable 250,000,000 light years away and closing.  

Hmmm..., i wonder if anybody has made a blue-shift - red 
shift test on Norma...  i mean, if it is heading our way 
(relatively) wouldn't it appear blue-shifted?   And if the 
entire local group is closing on Norma, wouldn't all the 
local group galaxies be coming slightly closer together over 
time?  interesting.  oh well, leave that for the experts...

My take is:  'no blue shift, no approach... the whole thing
then becomes bunk.

                          Bad Seed

Not all gravitational clusters have to be that big to work 
their mischief.  Once you get past the rough theoretical 500 
or 483 solar mass number, the system "blacks out" because the 
escape velocity exceeds c and continues to draw mass into it 
with an ever expanding event horizon as the solar mass 
additions pile up.

There appear to be many smallish black holes, some appearing 
as clusters within our own tiny galaxy which is only 100,000
light years in diameter (roughly) which we do NOT want to run 
into.  Best first uneducated guess, would be at least 36 of 
the black monsters floating around our LP.

By the way, while i think of it, if we are in fact a 
"barred" galaxy, all that would mean that our galaxy is sort 
of new and the distribution of mass from the closing 
internal binary black holes hasn't been completed yet.  
Andromedea would then appear to be much older a galaxy than 
ours since it is a spiral galaxy.  It again, is just a guess 
but the configuration speaks for itself.  If it turns out 
that ours is a spiral too then all bets are off for our 
"newness".

And one more "by the way...".  The actual solar mass amount 
required to have an escape velocity greater than c may be 
much less than the linear rough estimate of the 500 number.

Even the Norma cluster with its 50,000,000,000,000,000 solar 
mass would theoretically be just a little flit of a thing in 
comparison to the real big boys at the edges of our visible 
cosmos.



                    Presenting on stage
                   for a few milliseconds
                      of eternal time

Eternal Time?  hmmm... that's an assumption too isn't it...

So you can see our tiny little galaxy with its tiny little 
star, with its tiny little planets, with its tiny little 
people, with their tiny little greedy aspirations and 
ambitions and greed get no respect from galactic forces.

It isn't that your aspirations aren't important, it is just 
that we are just sort of very small pieces of *delete* 
fleashit in their eyes and don't even know it...

Now that we have ourselves all puffed up, let's talk about 
something else we can't change...


                    Getting out of Dodge

Can mankind escape its fate?  Yes, of course we can.  All we 
have to do to escape the 3 billion year deadline is to 
develop lifeboat spaceships that are capable of traveling 
against the ever increasing velocity towards the Norma 
cluster.  That is, develop speeds that can escape away from 
the Norma cluster which would currently be in excess of 
1,000,000 miles per hour.  The escape velocity ante from 
Norma is being upped continually however.

Now we have to steer our little lifeboat spaceship target 
against every incoming pea pod, snowball and rock and 
asteroid and planet and star and galaxy which is coming in 
towards Norma and our lifeboat at the currently 1,000,000 
mile rate. talk about getting sand blasted.

And we have to do it until we are far enough away from any 
Normas so that the escape velocity from Norma is down to 
almost zero.  And then we have to stay out of range from any 
other high gravitational mass afterwards and away from any 
high radiation mass forever afterwards.  easy.  a piece of 
cake.

Of course mankind can do it.

Mankind can't even drop water and food to it's own starving 
citizens in New Orleans with its EXISTING gassed and ready 
helicopters.  Like we can create world peace too.

hopeless.

just plain *delete* hopeless...

we're goin' 'round and 'round, and down the toilet like the 
carbon based bipedal *delete* dust and ashes we are...

Wait a minute, there is someone at the door...



Joseph_sixpack:
  "Doctor Dave!  How are you?"  

Dr. David Advocate:
  "Fine Joe, may i come in?"

Joseph_sixpack:
  "Yes, yes, of course sir.  Excuse the mess, but i am a messy
   person no longer hitting on all eight.  i was just thinking
   of calling you to talk a bit about a new chapter on clusters
   and superclusters, but maybe later on that one."

Dr. David Advocate:
  "That is what I came over to talk about.
   I was just reading it and thought i should come over."

Joseph_sixpack:
   "Huh?  but how...?"

Dr. David Advocate:
   "Ha...!  modern technology..."

Joseph_sixpack:
   "hmmmm.... isn't DSL wonderful..."  

Dr. David Advocate:
  "Fine Joe!  but in a word, you must stop!
   You are being way too imaginative and presumptive... 

  Even the most advanced peoples from other locations within
  the local group will suffer the same fate if that destiny
  that you hypothesize occurs.  The terminal fate of all
  radiating systems and their attendant life is not caused
  by their lacks or inabilities, it is just quite simply a
  galactic reality, to which we must mentally adapt and
  accept."

Joseph_sixpack:
  "Yeah like some criminal facing the morning firing squad."

Dr. David Advocate:
   "Hardly...

   Certainly at everybody's end time, or the end time for
   the galaxy, termination of consciousness is certain, but
   that road need not be buried in anguish or despair.

   There is still plenty of time for God and plenty of time
   to accept that nasty, untoward galactic reality which,
   disturbing as it is to you and all lifeforms,
   incorporates our own solar system's and galaxy's final
   destiny."

   In any event, the termination or replacement of our
   species may not be that all drawn out in time given the
   standard cosmic hazards to life."  

Joseph_sixpack:
   "yes but...   sigh..."

Dr. David Advocate:
   "Oops!  I'm late.  Have to catch a flight.  Back soon.
    Take care Joe."

Joseph_sixpack:  
    "but..."



Days later...

     Joe talks to ancient wife about the Norma Cluster
     aka:  ACO3627

js:  "i gotta problem."

aw:  "no shit sherlock."

js:  "about the Norma Cluster.

aw:  "about the who?"

js:  "The Norma Cluster."

aw:  "Who's Norma Cluster?

js:  "it's an object in space"

aw:  "What's that?"

js:  "That's the big man on campus locally."

aw:  "Well, he's got a funny name for a man on campus or 
      in space, or where ever."

js:  "The Norma cluster is alleged to be a collection
      of stars in space!"

aw:  "Well then, will you speak english ever?"

js:  "The Norma cluster is also called the "Great Attractor"
      which is in space and which said to have about:
      50,000,000,000,000,000 solar masses and is
      gravitationally drawing us and 46 plus or minus a few
      other galaxies to it currently at the rate of one
      million miles per hour which is why they call it the
      great attractor....

aw:  "just out of idle curiousity, where else would some-
      thing with 50 quadrillion solar masses be besides in
      space?

js:  "now you are just being difficult..."

aw:  "and what's this "us" stuff kemosabi?  you go, i stay.

js:  "sigh..."

aw:  "okay, assuming you know what the "bleep" you are
      talking and i know what the "bleep" you are talking
      about, what's the problem?  like you can do anything
      about it?

js:  "The problem is the event horizon.

aw:  "Oh!  of course, yes, that is quite clear..."

js:  "will you stop!"

aw:  "i will if you will."

js:  "well, the event horizon of something with 50 quad-
      rillion solar masses might extend out past the
      observed diameter of the Norma Cluster.

aw:  "and?..."

js:  "Well, if it did, you wouldn't be able to see the
      cluster!

aw:  "Well, i am certainly glad you solved that problem.
     now, can i go back to what i was doing before?"  

js:  "LOOK!  That could mean that my "Bubbles in Space"
      theory could be wrong!

aw:  "Seems like you are a pretty good bubble in space to
      me.

js:  "i have to think this out..."

aw:  "well, go outside when you think."

                 Joseph_Sixpack to himself
js:  "Maybe the attractor lies behind the norma cluster?..."

     "Maybe the stars of the cluster are still distant and
      still in front of the event horizon?"

     "Just how much of an event horizon radius would be
      generated under 50 quadrillion solar masses anyhow?"

     "Maybe the radiating stars lie behind the great attractor and
      are just being wrapped gravitationally around it?..."

     "maybe the "bubbles in space" hypothesis requires and
      are generated by objects far greater than 50 quad-
      rillion solar masses?"

     "jeez!  how high is high?"

     "Aw Christ!  doing this shit on your own is hopeless.."  

aw:  "Ask Dr. David Advocate for an answer when he shows,
      maybe he knows?"

js:   sigh....