the problem with the iframe menu: i barely know javascript (i'm gettin' there though) and I had this javascript problem. attention!!!: if you don't know javascript, then i warn you to just stop reading for your own purposes because you will not understand this.. anyway this window.open('_top') & loc.href = path...(path being the url located in an ) i tried to connect them with a ; but it didn't work. 10 min. & many tries later, i found out i could window.open(path,'_top').. took me a long aggravating amount of time. thank you for listening considerately to me moaning and groaning about this perumptious problem.