On To France

Red Line

The 17th Engineers (Ry), along with other units, traveled by rail to Jersey City, New Jersey and were ferried across the harbor to New York where they boarded the H.M.S. CARMANIA on July 28th 1917 along with the 12th Engineers, a total of about 2,500 troops, and sailed to Halifax. After two days four additional ships, the Adriatic, the Ordena, the Burmudian and a cruiser, were assembled and the convoy started across the Atlantic zigzagging all the way as a defense against German submarines.

Eventually six British Destroyers met them in route to escort them to Liverpool. They arrived on August 12, 1917, 11 days out of Halifax. The men were taken by train to Borden, England and then marched at night  to Oxney Camp accompanied by a British band.

The unit later went to London for a grand parade . Being the first troops of the AEF to arrive in England, as well as the first American troops ever to march in the British capital, the parade route was lined by enthusiastic crowds as well as King George, his mother,  Queen Alexandria, and Field Marshal Sir John French. There were four Railway Engineer Regiments in the parade; the 12th, 13th, 14th and 17th, a total of about 4,500 men, with the 17th being the fourth in line. Each regiment was accompanied by a British marching band.

The very next day the unit boarded the ship Northwestern Miller except Company E which boarded the Londonderry and they departed from Southampton.  Both ships were cattle ships and the men were put into the cow stalls and the officers into a room on the upper deck.  Many troops entertained themselves and others by imitating cow "mooing" as they crossed the channel Train Route to Le Havre, France. The unit continued by train to the American camp at St. Nazaire arriving  in the evening of August 19th following the route via Rouen, Le Mans, Chateaubriant and Montoir.  The camp was located about 2 miles from the docks.   The 17th Engineers were now ready to begin the important construction work needed to support the arrival of combat troops and supplies.

H.M.S. CARMANIA In the early years of the First World War the British requisitioned merchant ships and converted them to armed merchant cruisers. One of these ships was the HMS Carmania of the Cunard steamship line. Although the idea of an armed merchant ship was soon considered impractical the HMS Carmania did have success in war by sinking a German armed merchant ship the Cap Trafalgar of the Hamburg-Amerrika Line in 1914. In 1916 after other war duties she was returned to the Cunard Line and used as a troop transport between Halifax and Liverpool. After the war she returned to civilian service and was scrapped in 1932.

To see views of the Carmania visit the Great Ships web site and
scroll down to Cunard and select Carmania 1.



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