Worked as an EMT in Santa Clara County for a half-year. Moved out to Ohio. Did two years of med school, then a year to do my MPH. Now I'm in my 4th year of med school.
Where the hell are you?
Medical College of Ohio
Oh. So you're at Ohio State...
Um... unfortunately not. OSU rejected me twice. MCO's in Toledo.
Right. Well, I don't know where Ohio is anyways...
Ohio is bordered by Indiana, Michigan, Pennslyvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky.
Um, great... So what's like Ohio compared to CA?
Positives: stronger sense of
community, better sports culture, low cost of living, pretty laid back
lifestyle, damn good red meat
Negatives: cultural naivity, narrow worldview, general
untrendiness, no authentic Asian food, highest point in Toledo is like 10
feet.
So what's the coolest thing you've done since you've been out there?
Chicago Cubs game at Wrigley Field on a balmy day in July. Detroit Red Wings playoff games. Michigan St./Michigan NCAA hockey title game. U2 concert at Notre Dame -- first one after 9/11. Sung in the bass section of a concert choral, accompanied by the Toledo Symphony, doing Mozart's Mass in C Minor. Traveling like crazy: Peru (twice), England/Scotland, Chicago, Toronto, NYC, Boston, DC (twice), Charleston SC, Durham NC (Duke), Atlanta, Laredo TX.
Who's your coolest friend out there?
One of my better friends was a cheerleader for the Pistons and Cav's during med school.
Are you as H-O-T as I remember you at UCSD?
Hotter.
So, you're a Christian, right? What's the deal with that?
If you're truly motivated to
know
1) why I am --
just ask, or
2) what
Christians believe -- I suggest listening through the sermon
series on Romans at Capital Hill Baptist Church in its entirety. It's
as good and fair of an exposition on the subject as I've heard.
Why should I go to the Medical College of Ohio (updated 6/29/04)?
Since choosing med schools can be tough, I figure I should give my two cents to anyone in the application process that may be considering MCO and happen to have stumbled on my website. Since you can find negative info anywhere, I'll try to focus on positives while also addressing significant issues that you should address when evaluating MCO. So here are some things to consider...
1) Pre-clinical
education -- I really don't think there's a big difference among med schools
in the basic sciences, unless you go to Mayo or really want PBL. The PBL
fad is kind of going away, anyways. Some OSU students told me they're
considering dropping their PBL track entirely.
2) Clinical education --
Your primary teaching sites are MCO and St. Vincent's. What may be unique
to MCO is that since it's the major teaching hospital in Northwest Ohio, you're
required to do at least 8 weeks of your rotations in rural areas (roughly a
radius of about 1+ hours). The potential benefit, that depends (as does
any rotation) on the individual preceptor, is that you're working one-on-one
with physicians. For example, I'm doing rotations in General Surgery in
Bryan and OB/GYN in Tiffin. On surgery, I'm 1st assist on all the surgeries,
so I'm getting a fair amount of suturing experience right now. An issue to
investigate, if you're deciding between MCO and other schools, is how clinical
education compares at these super-sexy tertiary/quatenary-level care centers
like UM and OSU. I couldn't tell you since I don't have the personal
experience, but it's worth checking out, because I could imagine that my
clinical experience may be significantly different than in one of those
environments. However, one way in which MCO has recently tried to compete
with bigger schools is expanding our options to do rotations at Henry Ford in
Detroit and Riverside in Columbus, both of which are excellent hospitals.
MCO/Mercy has also recently begun repairing a severed working relationship with
Promedica/Toledo Hospital, so hopefully by the time you get here you'll be able
to do some rotations at Toledo Hospital.
3) Research -- As far as
the quantity of research done, it's obviously more limited than in
aforementioned med schools. But, I can tell you the actual opportunities
available are substantial. Since most MCO students couldn't care less
about research, you could basically do as much as you wanted, though the
specificity of opportunities may be limited. I'm pretty happy to have
found 2 EM faculty that I would consider mentors. The school is very
supportive of students involved in research. Among the handful of students
I know personally, the school has helped pay travel/lodging for them to present
at several conferences across the US and one that I know of in Spain.
Look, if the school is willing to help me out with travel/lodging for a dinky
poster presentation at a regional conference... I've got to be
impressed.
4) Extracurricular -- Uh, not much to say
here. We've got a student-run clinic. AMSA is fairly
active.
5)
Other school/hospital stuff -- A recent issue that you want to ask
faculty when you interview here is the financial status of MCO. Since it's
a state-supported school and the only medical education center in this area of
the state, it'll take quite a bit of work to have the school go under like
Hahnemann did several years ago, but it's hit some significantly hard times
recently. We just hired a new president, so the next few years may be
interesting.
6) Cost -- It doesn't get much cheaper. Toledo
is cheap. Even if you're out-of-state, it only takes one year in Ohio to
gain residency status and cut your tuition in half (compare with CA, WI, NY
etc). Put it this way. Even though I entered MCO as a CA resident
and took an additional year to do a MPH and travel to England and Peru, my total
debt will be HALF that of somebody coming out of Tufts in four
years.
7)
Toledo -- Depends where you're from. From the perspective of a 'body
from CA, it's pretty unsexy. The biggest
redeeming factor of Toledo is the location. If you need to leave, it's
pretty easy... Ann Arbor is 45 min, Detroit 1 hr, Columbus Cleveland and South
Bend 2 hrs, Chicago 3.5 hrs. The Mud Hens are pretty cool. Red Wings
hockey rules. There are few things bigger than OSU-UM
football.
8)
Final advice -- Wherever you end up, don't be one of those people who
bitches everyday about how it sucks... there's no worse way to waste four years
of your life than to be actively miserable every waking hour... I've met a
fair share over the last four years, and, god, it's pitiful. Getting into
med school is a privilege for a lot of people, and even if you think you're
entitled to the highest quality of medical education and social life (which has
some validity considering how much we pay for it), you'll be a lot happier if
you think of your experience as a blessing than not. And, if you really
hate it that much, go do something else fun... like being a Shania Twain backup
singer/dancer...
Advice for 3rd year MCO rotations?
Family
Medicine: Dr. Figy, WWKnight Clinic at Toledo Hospital
Pluses:
Figy was super-chill. WWKnight has great faculty that teach a lot.
And they do a lot of procedures at the practice.
Minuses: The
faculty are hard-a**es. Some of my toughest evals were from these guys.
Recommended
study books: None. I bombed the thing. No opinion on
Blueprints. NMS questions was a waste of money. I recommend
finishing third year if you want to do well on it.
Pediatrics:
Henry Ford Hospital and Sterling Heights Clinic
Pluses:
Great outpatient experience. Diverse patient population. Great
faculty.
Minuses: Besides short NICU experience, no inpatient
experience at all.
Recommended
study books: None. I liked Recall and Pre-Test, but still did
poorly on the SHELF exam.
Medicine:
Cardiology (red) at Riverside Methodist, General Medicine at St. Vincent Mercy Medical
Center, Ambulatory/Hospice
Pluses:
Cardiology was awesome -- great experience and a lot of independence, you could
function as a 4th year/intern on the service. GM was decent for SVMMC/MCO.
Hospice was excellent.
Minuses: Cardiology will kick your
a**. Those faculty were hard a**es on my evals too. GM is pretty
dull stuff. Teaching is hit or miss.
Recommended
study books: None. Boards and Wards was okay. NMS was a
good reference. MKSAP was good to learn from, but not to evaluate your
knowledge. Recall was too much.
Surgery:
Vascular at SVMMC, Drs. Harvey and Rao in Bryan OH, ER at MCO
Pluses:
Vascular was great -- lots of OR time, nice attendings. Bryan was great --
lots of 1st assist, lots of time to study. ER was decent -- good
attendings, lots of clinical independence, and time to study.
Minuses:
The MCO ER isn't very sexy.
Recommended
study books: Essentials of General Surgery (Lawrence).
Recall. Appleton-Lange questions. I think I used NMS as a reference.
Psychiatry:
Adult Outpatient, Northcoast Behavioral Hospital N-200
Pluses:
Adult Outpatient has good faculty. NBH is chill -- you can do as much or
as little as you want. Pretty entertaining place.
Minuses:
Adult Outpatient has a loaded schedule and lots of assignments.
Recommended
study books: I used Blueprints, Recall, and Pre-Test and destroyed the
stupid test.
Ob/Gyn:
Dr. Hedges in Tiffin OH
Pluses: Great doc. Lots of experience with
pelvics, paps, surgeries, deliveries.
Minuses: None.
Recommended
study books: Blueprints. Pre-Test. Don't know what my
score is yet.
Feel free to contact me at
[email protected] if you have any questions.