| Date: | Jul 11 2000 00:55:26 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: On-going Cone E-mails... |
I've been extremely lucky that most times I've gone to Yankee Stadium in the past 5 years (some 20 times, approximately), I've gotten to see Coney pitch time and again. I was more than upset, though, that I didn't get to see the perfecto, of all games when it happened, though!!!>:( (I was in Israel, and just happened to find out about it because this kid from Nebraska on our trip who was a Yankee fan bought a copy of The Jerusalem Post, and was rubbing it the back page headline, which caught my eye...) However, I do have some other great memories of him pitching. The first game I ever saw him pitch was in 1995; this was also right around the time I'd started to get a little interested in baseball, so it was also the first time I'd ever heard of him PERIOD, when on the way to the game, my mom's friend mentioned "oh they have the good guy pitching for them tonite. David Cone." Don't know why, but from that night on I was hooked -- you know how you become attached to something all of a sudden and you don't know why? That's how I felt that night. (BTW, the Yanks won that night 5-4... but I can't remember if Coney got the win or not!) It was almost as if, going into the '96 season, you pulled for the guy just because there was something about him that stole your heart, too. I think he got everyone when that whole aneurysm thing came out. I'll never forget the day he came back -- September 1, I believe -- and purposely making sure I was home to watch the game against Oakland on TV. And as he went out I thought to myself "maybe he'll pitch a no-hitter today". No joke-- and as you all know, he came pretty darn close; Rivera and a stupid umpire just messed him up. He seemed untouchable that day. I was also at the "rubber game" of the first ever Yankee-Mets Series (1997) when David pitched 6 innings of no-hit ball before those blasted Mets broke it open and tied it up, giving Coney another notorious no-decision. (Of course, it made me happy when Tino got the game-winning hit, but that's another story...) But the best game I was ever at, ironically, was one of the worst games Cone ever pitched; game 1 of the 1997 playoffs where Raines, Jeter, and O'Neill went back-to-back-to-back over the fence to get the Yanx out of a hole where Cone had given up 6 runs in 2 innings; probably his only poor performance ever in a playoff game. :( It hurt to see him give up all those runs, and for people to mumble, "well is his career over yer?", because for me especially, I didn't want it all to end yet -- it was just too soon. And that's still how I feel now; I just don't think it's time yet to say goodbye, and don't want it all to be over like that. I'm still clinging to the hope that Coney will have a good second half, which means a few more glorious years left in that arm of his. ~Pen~ |
| Date: | Jul 11 2000 02:27:54 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Sunday's New York Times |
I found the article!!!!!!!!! Thanx a million, Jenn! :) http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000709mag-baseball.html (I hope this works...) It's a really good picture of him...:) (Add it to your page, KC, before the site changes!) --PEN4 |
| Date: | Jul 11 2000 19:47:40 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Cone report: Looked in high spirits to me! |
Britt, Thanks so much for telling us your "up close and personal" report about Coney! I'm glad that at least he is in good spirits and not getting down about things. It sounds like he was having a really good time, and that's exactly the way I think of him, as a real fun guy! Thanks again, Ally :) |
| Date: | Jul 11 2000 22:08:08 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: On-going Cone E-mails... |
My Cone memory is from the first time I watched a game on TV. It was the last game he pitched before being put on the DL with an aneurysm. I think that game was what made me a true Yankee fan. That's why I love David, I credit him with making me fall in love with this team. I also remember seeing him with the Mets and seeing several fans with cones on their heads during the sports news one night. I distinctly remember saying, "that's cute, his name is David *Cone* and those are the Cone-heads" (weird memory huh?) lol But my all time favorite memory is Coney's perfect game. I nearly threw a fit during the rain delay cause I figured the game would be called off. And when the last hitter (Orlando Cabrera) popped up to Brosius I started jumping up and down. Then I sank on to my bed and began crying hysterically. That is what Coney has always meant to me. And ever since Wells' perfecto, my one wish was to see Coney pitch one, too. |
| Date: | Jul 11 2000 23:16:28 EDT |
| From: | "Coney's Court!" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Cone article... |
http://www.geocities.com/coney36_nyy/ Penguin-- I can't access that link because I'm not registered at the NY Times site!! :( :( Though I am highly intrigued about this article (and picture, too!!) If anyone could kindly send it to [email protected] I would *so* appreciate it!!! :) Also, who is this Yankee fan in Nebraska..?? I thought I was alone out here!! ;) Great stories!! Take care~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --KC <<<<:) |
| Date: | Jul 12 2000 11:18:48 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Story About Cone.. |
I posted this somewhere else, but thought I'd share it w/ the list also... K, during my brief 2-wk accounting trip that took me to VA, DC, and NY, I got to meet several interesting people (accountants, of course). One of the people I met had a client who was and still is Coney's marketing agent. Anyway, he told me that during the 80s they had this banquet thing, and he sat at a table w/ Cone and the marketing agent. All of a sudden, this woman started screaming b/c a man had stolen her purse..so what did Cone do? He got up, ran after the man at full speed, knocked him down and beat him up til the man gave up the purse. The man was all bruised and beaten when Cone stopped hitting him. That's the story...I thought it was weird and funny...I cannot imagine Cone doing that, guess it just shows how he's dedicated to doing whatever he's doing, whatever that might be... ~Jen (Jaycee) |
| Date: | Jul 12 2000 12:26:51 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Dan Patrick's outtakes |
Good morning all Got Dan Patrick's book "outtakes" and to my surprise he had a chat with our David!!! Quite a candid chat too!! I would love to share it with everyone, but since it's printed in a book and I have no scanner (or computer skills for that matter) I don't know how to get it out to you all. Any suggestions????? thanks Laura p.s. this news just cleared we got another pitcher..... Denny Naegle (sp?) we got him for a bunch of minors including ed yarnell. Hey Britt, btw I'm going to Minn too!!!:))) I believe we also are staying at their hotel. e-mail me and we can discuss!!! |
| Date: | Jul 12 2000 17:20:50 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Dan Patrick's outtakes |
I remember when the article first came out in ESPN Magazine. I actually saved the article on my computer, but sadly it's been lost since then. However, I perused ESPN.com and found an excerpt of it: http://espn.go.com/espninc/magazine/columns/patrickbookexcerpts/502958.html Enjoy! |
| Date: | Jul 12 2000 17:27:49 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | thanks |
Thanks for posting the web site... I wish I could get the whole interview- that was the lite portion of it. Like I said before he was a little candid... in a cute way though. have a great day!!! |
| Date: | Jul 12 2000 20:28:31 EDT |
| From: | "Coney's Court!" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Dan Patrick's "outtakes" |
http://www.geocities.com/coney36_nyy/
Hi everyone! Wow, so many great E-mails...thank you everyone for your
stories, I enjoyed reading them so much!
ansky24-- I thought your story was so sweet!! I cried too when I saw his
perfect game, I just loved to see him so happy! He is who totally made me
a Yankee fan, too. I mean, I'd watch Yankee games with friends every now
and then, and I had always had respect for them for their contributions to
baseball history...but if it weren't for Cone, I wouldn't be the Yankee
fan I am now...
Jaycee-- Holy cow...your story was very interesting!!! I got a kick out
of reading it...I can't imagine him beating the crap out of someone, but I
can *so* imagine him doing it for a good cause...hee hee! What a knight!
;)
Laura & Adrian-- Wow, what a cool article! Thanks for posting the
excerpt, now I want to read the whole thing! I guess I'll have to run out
and get the book...I love candid stuff like that!!
Oh! That article that was posted about the pitchers vs. hitters was very
interesting...I had no idea there was such a social conflict, but I can't
say it's very surprising, either...I know I've gotten very irritated at
the Yankee hitters from time to time, but that's because I'm partial to a
certain pitcher! So now when I do watch baseball I tend to be more of a
pitcher fan, and when they do badly I just feel upset for them instead of
angry. The points made about how they may play only once every 5 days or
whatever as opposed to playing everyday like the other players brought up
some good arguments, but still it's frustrating if a pitcher has a bad
outing because he has to wait 5 days before he can right it. Any other
player can have an off night, and then go out there the next night and
make everyone forget about the night before. I guess there are pros and
cons to both sides of the story...like the article said, I guess they are
just two different breeds...;)
Take care! ~ ~ ~ ~
--KC <<<<:)
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| Date: | Jul 12 2000 22:54:41 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Cone article... |
OK, guys about the article... registering with NYTimes.com is FREE, and takes like 2 seconds. It's the other stuff that costs money (archives, etc.) Luckily, because the article's this week, I found a way in around the archives. KC and whoever else, I can still upload the picture and send it to you guys, if you want; I was just afraid something might go wrong, so I just posted the URL instead. ~PEN~ |
| Date: | Jul 14 2000 19:13:02 EDT |
| From: | Lilyana <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Dan Patrick's outtakes |
Very very cool :) I wish they had more up there! But I"m still surprised that DC is up there at all :) Yay! Lilyana |
| Date: | Jul 15 2000 16:23:20 EDT |
| From: | Lilyana <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Story About Cone.. |
That's so cool! How brave of him to just run up and chase after that guy... My hero :) Lilyana |
Hello all thought I send everyone some articles from the ny post- there is one called "now its Cone's turn"(just click on it and scroll down). I feel the pressure is really on him to shine, he even declined to talk to reporters yesterday after the win!! We got our direct tv installed so I will (finally) be able to watch him in the comfort of my own home (thank goodness, no more endless searching for sports bars that have msg available). Well just wanted to say hi and sending out positive vibes to coney for goodluck!!! have a great day go david!!! Laura |
| Date: | Jul 17 2000 17:15:02 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Keeping my fingers crossed |
Well, I hope Coney can do what he's done so well during the past years: get a "W" in his record. I will be keeping my fingers (and toes) crossed tonight, and hope that he will pitch great against the Phillies and get a much-wanted *win*. My dad won't be happy with me (he's a huge Phillies fan) but I'll still cheer for the Yanks. Go Coney! Jaycee :) |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 07:42:50 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] (Yankees Rule!) |
| Subject: | Coney loses another one. |
Looks like he blew it again last night. He told the media after the game that he wasn't getting the job done and that he was hurting the team. I feel bad for him. It is so hard not to be frustrated with him. Whenever he used to pitch, prior to the PG, I used to feel like - here comes a really good shot at another win, Coney's pitching. Now I'm scared on his day, because I feel like - oh no, here comes another loss - I hate when I feel that way about soomeone on the team, but it does happen from time to time over the years. Not sure what he should do. They all say he still has his stuff, but he is having trouble with his location. He gave up 6 runs last night (might have been only five if Jeter made that one play but that's questionable). Cone also said something to the affect of - I'll either start pitching better or I'll pitch himself off the team. I think he should volunteer to go down to Columbus or Tampa for a few weeks to work out whatever the problem is with Billy Connors. When Roger was on the DL he went to Tampa and I'm sure they worked on what was wrong with his pitching at that time. Maybe that is what Cone needs to do. No shame in taking the steps to fix what is partially broken. Kat |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 08:06:44 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Coney loses another one. |
In a message dated 7/18/00 7:40:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I feel bad for him. It is so hard not to be frustrated with him. > Whenever he used to pitch, prior to the PG, I used to feel like - here > comes a really good shot at another win, Coney's pitching. Now I'm > scared on his day, because I feel like - oh no, here comes another loss > - I hate when I feel that way about someone on the team, but it does > happen from time to time over the years. I don't know who wouldn't be frustrated with him. It almost makes me cry knowing that he's suffering so much with his pitching. :( > Not sure what he should do. They all say he still has his stuff, but he > is having trouble with his location. He gave up 6 runs last night > (might have been only five if Jeter made that one play but that's > questionable). I think he should work in the bullpen a bit and than try some relief pitching before returning to starting. He's gotta work more on his breaking ball and use a bit more of his fastball. JMO. -kris |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 13:28:06 EDT |
| From: | "Coney's Court!" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Cone loses another one... |
http://www.geocities.com/coney36_nyy/
Hello everyone...Yes, our Cone is still struggling, and it is very hard
watching him do so. I really don't know what the best thing to do would
be, I have mixed feelings about the bullpen and the minors, but maybe that
little vacation to Tampa like Kris suggested could help if it aided Roger
in any way. It really is comforting though to know that Torre continues
to believe Cone's stuff is still good and that he still has the ability to
win. He said something about how he's still striking out batters, and if
he had lost it, then he wouldn't even be doing that. I see a lot of truth
in that. I still don't think Cone has been pitching that badly, however
when he makes a mistake it's just a really big one unfortunately, like 2
and 3 run homeruns. I just hope for his sake he can get past this, I hate
to see him so unhappy with himself. I know it's difficult to not be
frustrated with his performance right now, but don't give up yet! He will
be starting again soon, and hopefully it will be a successful one...
Laura-- Thanks for the article! It was very emotional....
Jaycee & lilyana-- Good to hear from you! It's really nice to know that
great fans like you are still behind our Cone!
The page has been updated....
Thanks for writing everyone! Take care & keep the faith~ ~ ~ ~
--KC <<<<:)
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| Date: | Jul 18 2000 13:40:32 EDT |
| From: | "Gerald Card" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Cone loses another one... |
We've been discussing Cone on the New York Times Yankees forum (forums.nytimes.com). I responded to a couple things said by other posters today. They really express my feelings about the situation:
Downtown:
"Cone isn't strong or big enough to use
the splitter and fastball exclusively. If he doesn't have a slider and curve, he won't
survive past the 4th." Though it was by no means exclusive, that's what David Cone was from 1995-1997. Fastball/splitter and his other pitches were second-tier. Then his slider regained its old wickedness in 1998 and he was fastball-slider again like the old days.
Actually, Kid raises a good point. When Cone moved to the right side of the rubber, he made the switch then. Now he's back on the left side, and it might make sense to him to be fastball-splitter again. See Burrell hit that low-and-away slider for the three-run homer? He doesn't hit that pitch if Cone were on the right side of the rubber.
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One thing that really bugs me is the inconsistency and uncertainty of his motion that matches the inconsistency and uncertainty of his pitching. He's just not hesitating consistently. Cone is a much better pitcher when he has that little hesitation after he picks his leg up; it helps his rhythm and keeps his delivery constant and well-paced. He had that kind of hesitation against the Mets and White Sox, but since then he hasn't really used it.
His command is so much better when he hesitates. Why doesn't he use it all the time? You know what I think? I think he's so focused on pitching on the mound that he forgets about it. It leaves his mind.
When he uses that hesitation, he makes few mistakes, especially with runners on base.
I wish someone would tell Cone to go back to his old over-the-head windup. In 1997 he went back to it, holding his arms over the head from the start and then moving them down to the set position while he turned sideways and picked up his leg. What that motion did was create a really nice rhythm (and a needed hesitation as his knee reached its apex). When he dropped his leg and drove forward, his command was usually terrific.
He was so extraordinary at finishing off hitters (they hit .133 off him with two strikes) that he finished with 222 strikeouts in 195 innings and a dominating ERA with opponents batting .218 off him overall and slugging only .332 off him.
He was both dominating and consistent because his rhythm was consistent.
He didn't use the over-the-head windup in 1998, but after he recovered from his surgery he was terrific again. He was still able to maintain that rhythm with that slight hesitation (sometimes it was more than slight!).
Sadly, for much of last year (especially late in the season), his hesitation and motion were not nearly as consistent. He compensated for the utter wildness with terrific stuff, but even so his numbers were near or at career worsts. His 3.44 ERA was not far from his worst of 3.57 (1995). His strikeouts dropped to their lowest frequency since 1995 and his walks rose to the highest frequency of his career. His WHIP (1.31) was the worst he had ever posted. He was more vulnerable to the home run (21 allowed) than ever before.
Most disconcertingly, both his on-base percentage allowed (.322) and slugging percentage allowed (.375) were career-worsts.
Now it's 2000, and his command hasn't really improved, especially with runners on base. Unfortunately, his stuff hasn't been nearly electric enough to compensate. For a pitcher with legendary consistency (look at those "bad" career-low numbers above), a season like this never seemed possible.
He's not hesitating. He'd go a long way towards becoming David Cone again if he was. I really wish he'd go to the over-the-head windup.
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Llbrooks:
"The Liberthal pitch again rolled." It was a fastball. Fastballs don't roll. Outside of that, I agree. Cone got four runs, and if he were pitching like himself, it would be enough. But it is ludicrous to say, "Hey, Cone got 8 runs." He did not give up the grand slam to Abreu, and the Yankees scored the four runs which eventually made the game close again after he left. When he left, the Yankees were down by two. Cone's fall hasn't been natural. I mean, it's artificial. It just isn't right. I'm convinced that it can't just be chalked up to age. He went 9-4 with a 2.65 ERA through the perfect game, and since then he's something like 4-13 with an ERA in the high-fives. That just doesn't naturally happen. Another sign: his good innings are really good. He's not just fooling them when he has good innings. He's actually getting them out and making them look bad at the plate. He's Jaime Navarro when he's bad and David Cone when he's good, not Jaime Navarro when he's bad and Mark Gardner when he's good. He hasn't had trouble striking out hitters, and he makes a heck of a lot of good pitches each game. But when he makes a bad pitch, it leaves the ballpark. It seems that whenever a hitter or two gets on base, some demon takes control of his arm and makes him throw a poor pitch. And it always leaves the ballpark. He's made too many good pitches and been too good in his good innings to think that he's just wasting away. As Peter Gammons said, "I wouldn't bury him yet." Another thing I just thought of: he's averaging around five and two-thirds innings per start. That's incredible for someone with his record and ERA. I don't know of any pitcher in memory with numbers like he has with so many innings per start. Torre is a fairly quick hook, so don't chalk it up to that. I think it is another sign that his numbers really don't reflect the whole story. Gammons says that Torre will probably give Cone 4-6 more starts to prove himself. Let's give them to him. As bad as it looks now, I think there's a chance we might see dramatic improvement. ----- The Yankees forum on the Times website is highly recommended. I've been there over two and a half years, and I may never stop visiting. Adrian |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 16:01:22 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Today's papers |
Good afternoon fellow court memebers!!! Well my positive vibes must have gotten to Tino instead of David last night (big sigh....). Anyway, I was so happy for Tino though. Watching the pitching last night was just terrible- David certainly doesn't have a good poker face, the poor thing you could totally tell he was frustrated!!! The post-game show was hard to watch too. He really is a trooper and I will be rooting for him on Saturday when he pitches next. Then... hopefully (I'm prayin) that I'll be able to see him in Minnesota. Can't wait for that. Anyway, I'm sure most of you are from the NY area, but I thought I'd send today's sports section to those of us who aren't as lucky to live in the Big Apple. I wish these articles spoke of a Cone win, but oh well... Thanks for the update on the home page KC have a good day!!! Laura ps- the papers are the post and daily news |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 18:10:52 EDT |
| From: | "aaron naulty" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | CNN.SI`s Tom Verducci on Coney End of the line? Tuesday July 18 |
Hi K.C & everyone I guess there is not much to say today. To be honest I am not really sure what to think right now. But one thing is for sure Joe said that David is starting when his turn comes, so let us hope for the best. Besides, El Duque may be out for a bit. So David really needs to step up & quickly. Anyway here`s a great read from Verducci on David. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/tom_verducci/news/2000/07/18/verducci_insider/ Enjoy Y.A |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 18:30:39 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | FW: CNN.SI`s Tom Verducci on Coney End of the line? Tuesday July 18 |
GULP.... that was hard to read. It can't possibly get worse... can it??? Laura |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 20:28:54 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Cone loses another one... |
Hi everyone! This is very very hard for me, I can't even imagine how Coney feels! Great article in SI.com, thanks! One good thing that I read in that article is that he doesn't want to bounce around the league as a relief pitcher, which is good, I really want him to go out as a Yankee, and I really hope he can turn things around so this won't be his last year. Anyway, just wanted to thank all of you for the articles, and let's all think positive! Take care - keep smiling...:) |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 21:59:12 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | A Very Special Memory |
Just thought I'd send out a happy thought! A year ago today, I was sitting in the stands at Yankee Stadium, thinking "well, it's really hot, so we'll see the Yogi Berra thing and then leave". I was also thinking that I couldn't believe I spent $20 on a disposable camera because we left our camera at home and we wanted some pictures of the Yogi Berra ceremonies. Well, next thing you know, it was about the fifth inning, and JP was like, "something's happenning here, look at your scorecard". So I did, but I didn't want to say anything (you know, that bad luck thing). Then...it was the seventh inning and people were starting to murmur, and I was telling them all, "stop, you're not supposed to say anything". You try shushing a whole section, ha ha! Well, we all know what happenned next...Scotty catches the last out, "a perfect game, baseball immortality for David Cone"! Just wanted to send a happy memory today! Keep smiling... Ally :) |
| Date: | Jul 18 2000 22:38:53 EDT |
| From: | "Eyde Iorio" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: A Very Special Memory |
wow, you are soooo incredibly lucky to have gone to Coney's perfect game! You should email some of those pictures to the court:) I sat and watched the game with my mom and dad. I remember running to get my radio and taping the last out, which i listened to a couple times today, it gives me chills every time i hear it! As I am writting this email MSG just played the last out and interviews with Coney and Girardi. What a great day that was! Eyde |
| Date: | Jul 19 2000 00:51:00 EDT |
| From: | "Gerald Card" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Listen to the perfect game! |
Hey, guys! I forgot all about this! I have a link that you can use to listen to Cone's perfect game on Realplayer! I'm not sure how long this link will work, but as of now it's still functioning! It's a tiny-sized link (95 bytes or less than a tenth of a kilobyte) and will take almost no time to download. It's just a shortcut that takes you to the server that has the perfect game on it. I saved it when I first listened to it a year ago. Just download it and double-click it and it will play on Realplayer automatically! If you want to save it for posterity, hook up your sound card to your stereo and record it on audiotape! That's what I did! I have a question. Does anyone on this site tape Cone starts? I've been taping Cone's starts regularly since 1997 and irregularly since 1995. Does anyone want to trade old Cone starts with me? I love saving his games on tape and am always looking to get as many as I can. There's so much I haven't seen of him. I'm open for trades! Enjoy the perfect game on radio! DC (my name on the NY Times Yankees forum) |
| Date: | Jul 19 2000 00:52:26 EDT |
| From: | "Gerald Card" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | RE: perfect game audio link |
If anyone has trouble with the link, e-mail me! DC |
| Date: | Jul 19 2000 09:32:41 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | FW: Daily Dish |
|
-----Original
Message----- just pan down and read- David's quite the guy. Wish I lived in NY!!! I would certainly be at Mickey Mantel's after the game
enjoy!!!
btw- I would love to get a copy of David's perfect game on video. I trired calling around- Modell's, website, etc.. no luck does anyone have any suggestions???
thanks and have a great day Laura |
Forget David Cone's lousy record on the mound. When it comes to charity appearances, the Yankee pitcher still delivers. Following tomorrow's game against the Tigers, Cone will serve cocktails at Mickey Mantle's to benefit children with cancer, as well as the fight against SIDS. Teammates expected include Derek Jeter, Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams, Andy Pettitte, Jorge Posada, Shane Spencer and Jeff Nelson.
| Date: | Jul 19 2000 10:08:09 EDT |
| From: | "Gerald Card" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Re: Daily Dish |
| Laura,
One thing you or someone else could do is write or telephone FOX-5 (WNYW), the FOX affiliate in New York. They broadcasted the game, so they may have the legal right to sell their broadcasts. It wouldn't hurt to try. Here's their contact information:
Let me know how it turns out!
DC
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| Date: | Jul 20 2000 10:15:41 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | FW: Daily Dish |
| Good morning
my sister sent me this. I don't know about the rest of you but I have ordered on Amazon.com (back in early April) a book that is suppose to be titled "Pitcher Perfect" (about our David)- of course it has not yet been published so I am on a waiting list. Apparently, they have now changed the title??... scroll down and read for yourselves.
Now to change the subject... I don't often post on the y.website altho- that's where I found out about the court (duh!) but I did notice and have read posts about the forum gathering for this saturday's game. I don't know if any fellow court memeber is attending that game but do me a favor (if you are going), That is the day our Coney will be returning to the mound... Please scream and yell and cheer very hard for him. I will be sitting at the ESPN sports bar in Chicago looking for you all!!!(black out on direct tv that day):-(((
Have a great day!!! Laura |
Strikes Against Cone Book
No one's rooting for David Cone to climb out of his pitching slump more than editors at Warner Books.
The publishing house has laid out something like $600,000 for author Roger Angell to deliver a Cone bio titled "Game Face" next May. A publishing insider says Warner brass are starting to worry that readers may cool on Cone.
But Angell isn't sweating it.
"The book is a work in progress," says Angell, who says that Cone suggested he turn his New Yorker mag profile of him into a book. "I'm pulling for him. Not for the book's sake but because we're friends."
| Date: | Jul 23 2000 01:01:52 EDT |
| From: | "Coney's Court!" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | Cone pitched well, dangit! |
http://www.geocities.com/coney36_nyy/
Hey everyone...Wow, a lot of stuff to address..! First of all, I'd like
to thank you all for your input on the list! I enjoy reading all of your
messages, and it is great to see such loyal support for Cone...
Laura-- Thank you so much for sending us all those articles and little
tidbits, I really appreciate it! With the charity bit, I didn't know
whether to smile or cry...I mean I think it is so wonderful that even
after all he must be going through and everything that is on his mind, he
can still take time away from himself to help others, he really is a good
person. About the book, a-- I didn't know you could already order
it!...and b-- just the mere thought of "readers cooling on Cone" just
burns me. I can't believe that would happen just because he is struggling
right now, though some people just really surprise you sometimes. I can't
wait for the book to come out, I think it will be great reading and I'm
excited that I know I can order it now! Too cool! In the article it
mentioned Cone saying to use his New York mag profile for the bio...and if
he means the article that was printed last year, here is the link to said
article for those of you who have not read it:
http://www.newyorkmag.com/page.cfm?page_id=2138&position=1
Aaron-- Also, thank you for the SI article...it was a very good article,
as heart-breaking as it was to read!! :(
Ally-- As always I adore your messages...Your special memory letter gave
me a great warm-heart moment, and I agree with you about not wanting Cone
to bounce around as a relief pitcher, and to retire as a Yankee. That is
just how it should be, for it to be any other way just isn't right.
Gerald-- Thank you for the Perfect Game link! I'll have to put it on the
site once I get the perfect game page working. Also thank you for the Fox
5 address, I hope it works out!
Now today's game...I am very upset for Cone! He pitched pretty well,
threw a good number of strikes and got a lot of guys to ground out and fly
out. He still gave up a homerun which is a habit he needs to break, but
still he only gave up 3 runs in his 6 innings, and he only walked 2, which
I thought was fabulous! To me I think this shows that his control is
strengthening and that he still has the ability to pitch well. I am just
so frustrated that the bats couldn't hit more off of a guy with an ERA
over 9, but mostly I'm frustrated at the bullpen...Cone may not have been
able to get the win, but he surely didn't deserve that dang loss! I hope
he feels better about his pitching at least, surely he knows he did pretty
well...
The page has been updated...sorry about the lengthy letter!! I hope I
didn't bore anyone! ;)
Take care~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
--KC <<<<:)
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| Date: | Jul 23 2000 01:51:48 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Cone pitched well, dangit! |
Was I mad at that game!!!!! The Yankees even scored ENOUGH runs for him to win, and he STILL gets pinned with the loss even though that bullpen decides to walk 9 guys; wonder if it would've been different had Cone stayed in for the 7th inning. Unfortunately, even though on a normal day he would've gotten the win handily (especially with the way the Yankees are playing as of late) he's now 1-9, and has surpassed the infamous Andy Hawkins of the world for the longest dry spell ever. Ick. But I guess we have to look at the brighter side... at least he lowered his ERA considerably... and at least we KNOW that he CAN still pitch effectively. Maybe it's the team's problem, and less his... Oh and KC, thanx for the article on Coney! It's exactly the kind of bio I was looking for. Here's to next time, ~Pen~ |
| Date: | Jul 23 2000 03:26:45 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: Cone pitched well, dangit! |
Karen,
I saw the MSG postgame show after the game. Cone, in his interview, was in as bad a state as I have seen him. I've seen him in a comparable state only three other times: after Game Five of the '95 Division Series, after his aneurysm diagnosis in May 1996, and after he found out that he wasn't going to be able to pitch again in the 1997 postseason.
Here is a transcript of what he said, though it only tells half the story. His mannerisms and the expression on his face betrayed the fact that this is killing him:
Michael Kay: "David, what's your review on how you pitched?"
Cone: "Wasn't good enough, Michael."
Kay: "It looked like you might have had Canseco struck out. Did you feel you did?"
Cone: "There's always borderline calls in the course of a game. Some go your way, some don't."
Kay: "When you left the game, you were down 3-2, obviously you want to win a game. But do you look at it in increments of improving, that "Gee, this is better than the last start and the start before that?"
Cone: "No. No, there's no solace in losing. Not at all."
Kay: "You seemed to change your delivery a little bit, almost El Duque-like with the high leg kick. What was that trying to accomplish, what did that do for you?"
Cone: "Searching. Still kind of in search mode. Trying to find something that works."
Eddie: "Did you feel better today about your performance?"
Cone: "No, I lost, Eddie. I don't feel better about it at all."
As you can see, Cone, who is always very articulate and gives complete answers, was blunt and short. He seemed like he was on the verge of tears, judging by the tone in his voice.
Here is what a visibly despondent Michael Kay said after they played the interview:
"You saw David Cone there. David Cone is one of the best athletes in New York, in any sport, in dealing with the media, and he answered every question, but he certainly wasn't expansive on any of them. Short answers . . . it's crushing him inside, and I don't know how he's taking it internally . . . I know it's really killing him."
"The quote he had in the papers today and what he said to all of us yesterday, it really tears at you. If you're covering this sport and you're a fan of this sport, you're a David Cone fan. I know we're all supposed to be objective and down the middle, but I think everybody wants to see David Cone do well. He helps us do our jobs as well, and when he said, 'I never wanted to go out like this, I never wanted to embarrass myself as a Yankee, or go out of the game this way,' it's heart-tugging, it really is."
"The guy still has stuff, but for some reason he's not winning. He's striking out people, and that's what the Yankees hang on. The fact that you strike out people shows that you still have stuff, but he's giving up long home runs, the home run to Greg Vaughn today was an unbelievable shot, he keeps giving up first-inning runs, 11 now over his last 7 games, a lot of home runs in the first inning, as well. Something's there, the Yankees have to tap into it, and they have to get him a win somehow, just to get him over the mental hump."
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I'm writing this e-mail at 3:30 in the morning, because I couldn't get a wink of sleep tonight.
I feel so bad, because I know he feels even worse than I do.
I think he just needs a single, solitary win. Just one win, and we'll all feel better. I think one victory could completely turn things around.
In the meantime, I'll have to comfort myself by watching some of his old starts from years past. I'm not going to give up on him.
DC
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| Date: | Jul 24 2000 12:11:01 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | we have to keep the faith |
Good morning my sad fellow court members :-( Thanks for all the articles and info. DC I too saw that interview( that you posted) it was awful- I thought about posting some of the NY paper's sunday articles but I thought why bother, you guys get the point on how s****y he feels. Anyway, Ally and sue (chi-town girl) would love to see pics of the forum party. We sat glued to the computer this weekend just to see what all you guys were up to!!! Hey Sue, no luck at ESPN zone- so we went to a small bar called timothy o'tooles just east of Michigan Ave. Right by McClurg Court They promised me they could always show our team:-) Thanks for going an cheering our sweet boy on, sorry the forum party couldn't see a yankee win... we must keep the faith guys he will win a game... he just has to!!! Well I am leaving Friday for Minnesota (I am so excited) however, I am a little p****d off cuz I miss Coney by one stupid day. He pitches Thursday :-(( So that means Friday will be Denny, Saturday Clemens, then Sunday????? If anyone is going this weekend to Minnesota please e-mail me. KC my little journalist do you want me to pack you in my suitcase??? take care and have a great day!! Laura <:-) |
| Date: | Jul 25 2000 02:49:57 EDT |
| From: | "Coney's Court!" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | The biography is *done*! |
http://www.geocities.com/coney36_nyy/
Hey everyone! I am sending out this special note to let you all know I
have *finally* finished and posted the Cone biography on the site! Just
click the biography link on the home page and it should take you there...I
hope it is to your liking...!
DC-- Thank you for transcripting that interview here...As sad as it was to
read, I'm still glad I got to read it. I just hate seeing him go through
this, I really do, words cannot even express how I feel about it all...I
just want to see David get through this, just like you all do. I should
have known he would still be upset over the loss even though his pitching
was by no means bad, I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part
hoping he would at least be somewhat consoled in the fact that he had a
good performance. I agree that he just needs a win...one dang win and I
think that'll be enough to pull him out of this...I know he can do it, and
I'm with you in never giving up on him...:)
Laura-- I hope you have a wonderful time in Minnesota, though I'm so sorry
you'll miss Cone's start! I really wish I could go, I'd love to just hop
into your suitcase! haha! Anyhow, you have a good trip, and we can't wait
to hear about it when you get back! I'm thinking I can make it to Kansas
City in September, though...we'll see...!
Penguin-- Glad you liked the article! I think Ally actually sent that my
way once upon a time, so she's the one to thank! ;) I thought it was
excellent, myself...;)
Oh...and P.S.-- my name isn't Karen...! ;)
Take care! ~ ~ ~~ ~
--KC <<<<:)
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| Date: | Jul 25 2000 12:59:47 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | espn wednesday nite!! |
Hey all Great post KC... haven't checked out the bio page, but can't wait! I'm sure it's wonderful!!! Thanks for taking the time to do this stuff for us Coney fans Just an FYI to us Yankee fans who can't get to see all the games... it's gonna be on ESPN tomorrow nite!!! Unfortunately, we won't be see our Coney, but they might show him in the dugout!!! anyway, thought you all should know. Have a great day Laura |
| Date: | Jul 26 2000 16:49:41 EDT |
| From: | [email protected] |
| Subject: | Re: The biography is *done*! |
KC~ Great job on the biography! Cone sure has been through alot, hasn't he? :) Thanks for putting that up. ~Jaycee |
| Date: | Jul 27 2000 14:28:28 EDT |
| From: | "Laura Naughton" <[email protected]> |
| Subject: | ok here we go again.... |
Good afternoon all.... Well, tonight is another start for our David. Let's see in the past 3 days the Yanks have scored over 20 something runs right??? Do you think their bats will be cold tonight??? Will it be the usual "no run support" thing. Sorry I am being so cynical here but would really like to see him have a win. So again, I am sending out positive vibes to our David. When I see him tomorrow, I'll ask him if he got them;-)) Tomorrow is the big day- off the Minnesota I go, camera in tow of course, but unfortunately, don't have a digital camera so you computer gurus will have to tell me how to post them ok??? Chi-town thanks for your e-mail, been kind of busy- I'll write you when I get back. Speaking of Chi-Town- her forum trip sounded just totally wonderful. What do you think guys.... should we do a coney's court party. Kinda of silly I know, but maybe we could shoot for the Kansas City game. I don't know- we could do it for our webmaster. Get it?? KC in KC going to see Coney who's from KC. Think about it. We still have time to do some planning. Might be a big distance from our NY friends, but maybe not so much for those of us who live in the middle of the country!!! OK guys... wish me luck this weekend. And go Coney!!! Have a great day Laura |