Name: TOBIAS
Date: Sun Oct 20 14:11:54 MDT 2002
Quote Oakbreeze; "Tobias, you say Christo-Pagans are self-deluded,
but you know, plenty of people consider Wicca a flaky cult that isn't
a REAL religion." Antistoicus it's you again I believe. Haven't you
had enough already, I thought we had been through this silly
Christo-pagan rubbish to its full extent before! The cat's well and
truly out of the bag these days with the so-called Christ-pagan
affair, so just refresh your memory and look again at all that was
stated below this response.
Quote: "Freedom of religion applies to ALL of us." Not true actually
as freedom does NOT apply to fundamentalists who use their religion as
a battering ram to foster monotheistic bigotry on the masses. These
factions are NOT free to create more SRAM cases!
Name: Oakbreeze
Date: Sun Oct 20 18:21:21 MDT 2002
Ummmmmm....no. I'm not Antistoicus, as it happens, but you don't sound
like the type who'll believe me. Not like I care if you do anyway.
*shrugs* And I am not going to argue with you, since I don't think
you're trying to listen to what I say. You've already decided what you
want to believe, and I wish you joy of it. So goodbye.
Name: TOBIAS
Date: Mon Oct 21 05:21:12 MDT 2002
You may of course 'assume' whenever you like yet your
pro-Christo-pagan rhetoric is identical to Antistoicus, especially
your comments about 'witchcrtaft' (as he was so very anti-wiccan) in
particular. 'Joy' to you also in your quest !
Name: Antistoicus
Web Site: The Prima Nocturne Incident
From: Chicago
Referred By: Altavista
Date: Mon Oct 21 21:15:10 MDT 2002
I'm not "anti-Wiccan" at all, Toby. I'm simply a group moderator who,
on finding that he and his group were being subjected to harassment on
behalf of a group of unusually petty Wiccan elders, made a reluctant
managerial decision based on local political considerations.
Pentecostal Christians are also banned from the Shrine, for many of the
same reasons. When I said OPEN-MINDED in reference to those Catholic
and Eastern Orthodox visitors who would be admitted, I used that word
for a reason ...
Oops, had a stuck key. The link should work, this time. Toby, no
rational person would argue that we were obligated to continue letting
people in who never got tired of proselytizing, and otherwise trying
to take over, or of creating a disruption when they found that they
weren't getting what they wanted. But then, rationality was never
really an issue for you, was it? Or, for CHU, which by posting that
article about this alleged "attack" on them, not only showed how
laughably loose their definition of the word "attack" was, but that
others would do them no injustice by allowing you to speak for them.
No, Toby, I am not Oakbreeze, nor am I countless others I am sure you
have smeared and will smear for the 'crime' of disagreeing with
you. How interesting, though, that you first adopt a tone of triump
because I got tired of wasting my time talking to you and left, only to
do the same after claiming that I had returned, apparently hoping that
others hadn't seen your earlier comment, just as you hoped that others
had forgotten that I had introduced myself as a "proud Christo-Pagan
Synchretist" when you 'revealed' that I had called myself a "church
goer"; as if I had tried to keep the Christian side of my spirituality
a secret.
Fine. You trolled, you and CHU kept trolling, and I finally came back
to comment. Mark this day on your calendar, because you were
certainly desperate to see it come, judging from how hard you and CHU
have worked to make it come. Enjoy it now, because it won't last.
Toby, I didn't run from you or CHU. I walked away because I was tired
of your stupidity.
If religion was out of the picture, I would never have spoken to you.
My standards are higher than that. As it is, I find myself going back
and forth with somebody who can't comprehend the difference between
"Pagan" and "Pantheist" or "Witch"; who reads at below a middle school
level and acts like a hateful (expletitive deleted) online, because if he didn't he'd
never be able to think of anything to say and nobody would notice him.
I wouldn't be at all surprised in the "Witch hunter army" was your
creation; how interesting that they never post where their IP would be
publicly visible. Have fun, because I've spoken my piece and we're
done. Your 15 minutes are over.
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