L: Lie

H: Half-truth

S: Sermonizing

W: Whine

M: Misrepresentation

Laf: Laugh

Q 1. Who is involved in the Campaign to Stop Funding Hate? A. We are a diverse group of people of Indian origin living and working in India, United States, and Europe.

• Sabrang Communications Private Ltd, Bombay. [[ii]]
• South Asia Citizens (Communist?)  Web, France [ [iii]]
• Forum of Indian Leftists, worldwide, but mostly US. [[iv]]
• Communist Party (Marxist) of India [ [v]]
• PROXSA, worldwide, but mostly US-based – anti-Hindu front organization for Indian Communists and Pan Islamic Ummah sympathizers[vi]
• Friends of South Asia, Palo Alto, CA (FOSA) [[vii]], [[viii]]
• Indians for Collective Action, California [[ix] ]
• The claim of Indian origin is far-fetched.
• At least 10, and probably more, of the 20 Muslim-named “Faculty” appearing on their Faculty Petition are of Pakistani/Iraqi/Indonesian origin, and probably of the same loyalty[[x]]. Applying the same ratio to the Muslim-named signors of their Petition   it is seen that about 40% of those signing their Petition are in fact Pakistani or other Middle-eastern Islamists, whose only interest in “secular democratic India” is to see it destroyed.

Where do your funds come from?

We contribute personal time and money to this work and do not accept any institutional funding from anywhere.

• Sabrang collects funds through the SINGH Foundation [ [xi] ] . “SINGH”, a convoluted acronym apparently set up to convey a Sikh identity, stands for “ Secular India’s National Growth and Harmony”.

• Public records show that of $125,800 collected by SINGH FOUNDATION in 4 years (1998-2001), the programs expenses were less than 50% of total expenses! This level of administrative expenses would be rated as an F by non-profit organization rating agencies. OVER $39,000 was used to fund “travel” outside "programs" expenses. Where the rest went is anyone’s guess, but the “Communalism Combat” page of Sabrang [[xii] suggests that a lot of it may have gone to pay Sabrang’s Teesta Setalwad and Javed Anand, and perhaps the authors of "The Foreign Exchange of Hate" got their cut back from there.

• From [ [xiii]] : “To put it on a personal note, when we both left our jobs over two years ago, we were jointly earning around Rs.25,000 p.m. Our labour apart, we have since managed with just Rs.10,000 p.m. and have both declined job offers which would have meant well over Rs.25,000 p.m for either one of us. This is not to tell you about the great "spirit of sacrifice” -.. . While we are on the subject, may we make a suggestion to individuals and groups from the U.S. (and possibly Canada, too) who would like to respond to this SOS. As many of you are already aware the New York-based "Singh Foundation" .. is registered as a charity under U.S. law and donations to it are entitled to tax benefits. You might wish to consider the option of multiplying your contribution to us -- at no extra cost to yourself -- by directing your subscriptions to us through "Singh Foundation or some other such trust. Waiting anxiously for a reply and with warm regards. - Javed Anand, Teesta Setalvad “

• They  have also been funded by  the Congress Party, Communist Party, several “NGOs” and from foreign sources  for election propaganda – enough to pay for full-page ads  in the Times of India.[[xiv] ]

• Where the South Asia Citizens’ Web receives or sends funding, is anyone’s guess. They are not telling.

We found each other - via the internet and through personal contacts - in the aftermath of the Gujarat riots earlier this year.

• Consider the honesty of that statement. They have been members of the Forum of Indian Leftists for decades. They have been working on their “Report” for at least 5 years, by their own claim!  See the crosslinking between websites of FOIL, SABRANG, PROXSA, FOSA and ICAOnline in the Endnotes of this page.

Among us there are professionals, teachers and students belonging to various faiths and political persuasions.

• Marxist, Pakistan/Taliban supporters, Congress Party workers, professional Welfare Queens and other anarchist fundamentalists.

We are bound by one common goal: an India without hatred,

• Much more by a dream of an India without Jammu&Kashmir, and parts of Rajasthan and Gujarat [[xv]] – which they dream of giving to Pakistan, and .. An India without our north-east, which will presumably be given to Communist China..

where people are not persecuted because of their faith or political beliefs.

• The FOIL/PROXSA web page lists speeches by Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, [ [xvi]]well-known proponent of “freedom and non-persecution”,

• Biju Mathew’s webpage at Rider U. features a link to the UnaBomber Manfesto [ [xvii] ] – another anarchist hero.

• Sabrang has authored and propagated teaching material that includes supporting the viewpoints of Pakistan, noted haven of political and religious freedom.

Q 2. Are you opposed to religion ? Are you opposed to Hinduism in particular?

A. No, we are not opposed to religion.

• See Page 1, line 1 of the Sabrang/FOIL/FOSA report: “Hindutva, the Hindu supremacist ideology” - a characterization in sharp contrast to the Indian Supreme Court's definition of Hindutva.

• And page 4: “Hindutva – which translates literally to Hinduness or Hinduhood”.

• See Mathew and Prashad’s articles in the Weekly Organs of the Communist Party (Marxist) – with the Red Flag and the Hammer and Sickle [[xviii]]. Respect for religion?

We abide by the vision of the authors of Indian Constitution, who envisaged an India where all religions will be treated equally and all citizens are free to practice any religion of their choice without fear of persecution.

• The Emblem of India says “Satyam eva Jayate” – something completely alien to Sabrang/FOIL/FOSA . Even on this "Petition", they tried to cheat voters by cyber-squatting with a plagiarized website name - under an "anonymous" registration - until smoked out into the open. They STILL link to that bogus site from their Hate Petition site!!

• The Constitution also protects the right of every citizen to be considered innocent unless and until proven guilty of some crime. Sabrang/FOIL /SACW and their Communist – Islamic Fundamentalist allies have never been blamed for observing such niceties, and their Report is clear proof of their smear tactics.

• One of Sabrang/FOIL’s "Faculty" supporters is on record as condoning, if not approving, physical assault against wives by their husbands for perceived disobedience / refusal for sexual services on demand. Cites “religious authority” for that outrage against the Constitutions of India, Canada and the United States, and all other civilized societies. [ [xix]]

• Dr. Vinay Lal, Sabrang/FOIL spokesman and Associate Professor of History at University of California at Los Angeles (as he never fails to remind us), explains Sabrang’s concept of treating all religions equally – when he tells us that the Taliban was justified in destroying the Bamiyan Buddhas [[xx]] - since they represented other religions.

Yes, we are opposed to Hindutva and Sangh Parivar. Hindutva is different from Hinduism. Most followers of Hinduism, like the followers of any other religion are peaceful, non-violent and tolerant.

• See page 4 definition of “Hindutva” in their report - "Foreign Exchange of Hate". Contrast with the Supreme Court of India’s definition of “Hindutva”. [7]

Hindutva is a political ideology. It advocates use of violence, confuses nationality with culture and religion, is supremacist and exclusionary. It believes that only people who support it should have first class citizenship in India. All others should be second class citizens.

• See Supreme Court of India definition of “Hindutva”.

• “Ordinarily, Hindutva is understood as a way of life or a state of mind and it is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism . A Hindu may embrace a non-Hindu religion without ceasing to be a Hindu. and since the Hindu is disposed to think synthetically and to regard other forms of worship, strange gods and divergent doctrines as inadequate rather than wrong or objectionable, he tends to believe that the highest divine powers complement each other for the well-being of the world and mankind. Few religious ideas are considered to be finally irreconcilable.”

Don’t the Sabrang/FOIL diatribes show who the real “hate-mongers” are?

Nazism in Germany under Hitler said the same thing

• Thus, by the above,  Sabrang equates all Hindus to Nazis.

• And their own combination of Goebbels / Lenin / Musharraf propaganda tactics to “secular democratic freedom-loving” “people of Indian origin”.

We all know what happened when Nazism was allowed to grow.

• Yes they obviously know Nazism very well – and they are imitating the work of Goebbels perfectly

Sangh Parivar is a loose network of organizations led by the RSS

• We will leave it others to argue about the RSS and Sangh Parivar, and expose Sabrang / FOIL's lies about them - other then a few more laughs below.

whose founders were admirers of Adolf Hitler.

• Interesting point. The "Sangh Parivar"’s Founders must have lived in the days of the British Empire – and like most others enslaved by the British, had excellent reason to look with admiration on anyone who could stand up to the British – no endorsement of the Nazis’ own actions implied.

• But lets see what  Sabrang's own spokesman, Associate Professor Dr. Vinay Lal of the University of California, Los Angeles, has to say on the subject: [xxi]]: “ Under British rule in India, peasants lived in "abject misery", the "forces of law and order were almost invariably deployed in favour of their oppressors", agricultural productivity in most of the country was "dismal", famine was recurrent, industries declined.. Few "serious thinkers and historians" will be found in India "who see anything good in the imperial record" (p. 358). He notes that even the indefatigable Anglophile, Nirad Chaudhuri, much admired in the West like Naipaul, "described the British in India in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries as 'the Nazis of their times'".. No doubt the British were gentler Nazis, but that is why their empire has a rather more ominous quality to it. The 'responsibilities' once exercised by the British have now devolved upon the Americans. In that most cliched formulation, the sun never set on the British empire, and now the Americans are asking us to behold the thousand points of light. They live in darkness and call it light  " - recent quotes from Associate Professor Dr. Vinay Lal of the University of California, Los Angeles.

Q 3. Why don't you criticize other religious groups who send money to India?

• They can’t afford to answer their own question- See their answer! 

A. First of all, IDRF is not sending money to a religious group.

• Question was NOT :”why don’t you criticize the sending of money to religious groups? “ See facts of where the money actually reaches.

It is sending it to the Sangh Parivar.

• OK, so Sangh Parivar is not a religious group.

We are not opposed to religious groups sending money to India, per se.

• Wonderful statement! Could it be that Sabrang / FOIL depends on funding from subversives, foreign "missions" [[xxii]],  Taliban –admirers, and a spokesman who calls President Bush a worse than Osama bin Laden [[xxiii] ]?

However, the money that IDRF sends encourages divisiveness and violence.

• A typical Sabrang/FOIL  lie – as shown in Section 3.

We do condemn all acts of hate and violence - regardless of religion or ideology.

• In fact they don’t do anything other than “condemn” or “agitate”. Nothing constructive. Even their “lesson plans” which they foist upon innocent children at the Bombay International School are subversive. [[xxiv], [xxv] ]

The reason for our focus on Sangh Parivar is that we are committed to an India that is democratic, secular and embodies equal respect to all religions.

• Sabrang/FOIL is dominated by Pakistan-supporters, Red China-aping Marxist Communists, admirers of Fidel Castro, and apologists for the Taliban’s destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas. [30] Some commitment to “democratic, secular..” indeed!!

Q 4. Is IDRF breaking the law in supporting Hindutva groups?

• IDRF is not in the business of supporting “Hindutva” groups, nor “Pakitva”, “Talibantva”, “Marxistva” , Sabrangtva", “FOILtva” or any other “tva”.

• It is in the business of conveying funds to projects approved specifically by the Government of India, using means and organizations which are specifically approved by the Government of the United States.

• Whether Sabrang/FOIL is violating laws of India, by propagating the Pan –Islam terrorist dreams of the Caliphates of South Asia, by taking tax-free charitable funds and using it on anarchist travel, and by other writing slanderous reports without an iota of truth in them, remains to be seen.

If missionaries can raise money for Christianity, Muslims can raise money for Islam, why can Hindu organizations not do the same?

• IDRF does not waste time asking such questions,  since they spend their time working to help the poor, and welcome the efforts of other helpful people – example: Miraj Medical Center, which Sabrang/FOIL spokesman Associate Professor Dr. Vinay Lal of the University of California, Los Angeles specifically condemned as a camouflaged RSS-affiliated hate-mongering organization.   [ [xxvi]]

A. IDRF is misrepresenting itself as a non sectarian non political organization.

• IDRF represents itself as exactly what it is. Sabrang/FOIL misrepresent themselves as “concerned Indians who aim for secular and harmonious”, propagate incendiary Pakistani versions of maps from India, try to subvert democratic elections in India, spread hatred, and obstruct aid to India from NRIs - and sponge off donations sent by people who think they are funding secularism and communal harmony

But 80 per cent of the money raised by IDRF goes to organizations belonging to the Sangh Parivar, a loose network of Hindutva organizations.

• Sabrang / FOIL cook their numbers to come up with 80% here, 82% there, 83% elsewhere: whatever they feel like tossing out on the spur of the moment. 80 percent of Indians are Hindus – so why is it surprising if 80% of funding to India, which is 80% Hindu, indeed went to organizations run by Hindus?  IDRF exists to get useful work done where it can get it done - not to satisfy demographic quota systems. There is no lack of opportunity in India to help people - of any caste, creed or tribe. What stops Sabrang from doing something usefu? Lets compare how they spent $125,800 in 4 years, with how IDRF spends money..

It raised $ 3.8 million last year from non-resident Indians and in matching grants from corporate houses.

• Accusation, or whine? In 2001, Biju& Co. through SINGH managed to raise only some $3000 for Gujarat earthquake relief. Where it went remains to be seen.

The donors are told that the charity will go towards socio-economic development in India.

• And it does, obviously to anyone whose mind is not closed by Sabrang/FOIL’s bigotry.

In reality, it goes to support the activists trained by the Sangh Parivar employed in various schools, relief centers etc

• In other words, it goes to people trained to deliver relief after natural disasters, trained to teach, trained to heal and otherwise trained to help people. Not to Marxist anarchist fundamentalists whose record of  flexibility with truth and political morality are as well-known as their record of productive service to humanity.

 IDRF should openly declare that it is a part of Hindutva ideology.

• No more than they should declare that they are human beings, just to please Communists and Pan-Islamists

All evidence shows that it is.

• In the eyes of Communists and Pakistan agents, maybe, but not to sane and fair people. Since they have not an iota of evidence, and they cannot afford to have people read their report to realize that, they think this grand declaration will cover up their lies.

Q 5. Does not IDRF support developmental projects in India? Their records show that they support education, tribal welfare, healthcare and women and children. Is that all lies ?

• No, the lies are in the contortions and data-cooking that Sabrang/FOIL do in their Report and their FAQ page

The support that IDRF offers to educational institutions and tribal welfare programs is very selective and geared towards promoting a specific ideology.

• It is far less “selective” than the “education” which Sabrang imparts to Bombay International School students whom Sabrang tricks into drawing Pakistan / Pan Islam Caliphate -propaganda maps.

Almost all of the large scale money transfers relating to the Orissa Cyclone and the Bhuj earthquake have been to Sangh Parivar organizations in India.

• Who did “almost all” of the first-on-scene rescue work, regardless of religion, tribe or caste [ [xxvii]]. 

Indeed, it has been documented that money raised for these humanitarian causes was used in a partisan, sectarian manner, to benefit only the majority community (See Appendix E of the report, A Foreign Exchange of Hate).

• This  “documentation” must be seen by all – please do visit this  “Appendix E”  and take 5 minutes to do Google searches on  a couple of the slandered organizations. It will be more “research” than Sabrang/FOIL ever bothered to do.

Legally, the IDRF is entitled to donate to any organization of its choice.

• Yes, as long as those organizations are approved by Government of India to receive foreign currency for charitable purposes. For example, we doubt if Sabrang or FOIL would qualify.

The organizations chosen by IDRF however belong to an ideological set that openly declares that non Hindus ought to be deemed second class citizens in India.

• This is a blatant lie,  as shown by numerous examples.

• Also irrelevant, unless those organizations are eating that money like Sabrang/FOIL does with SINGH donations, instead of using  it to help the poor.

According to the public records, the majority of instances where money was sent to truly non-sectarian NGOs was when donors specifically designated such organizations as the recipients.

• Accusation or a whine? In other words, IDRF respects  donor’s wishes, and yes, IDRF DOES send a lot of money to what Sabrang “certifies” as “truly non-sectarian”. Given the complete debunking of FOIL’s system for designating “sectarian” vs “truly non-sectarian” everything else here is nonsense.

Even here, it is important to note that the IDRF takes a ten percent cut of all such donations and only accepts such donations if they are over one thousand dollars.

• If this is OK with donors, what is Sabrang/FOIL’s problem? Why should IDRF collect money and try to send it to a zillion different organizations? To send a cheque to India, certified, costs over $5. On $1000, that’s already 0.5% expense. On $100 it would be 5% expense. IDRF’s people are volunteers – they have to use their time wisely.

The ten percent 'fee' is generally sent to Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram or other RSS/VHP projects in India,

• In other words, 100% of donations are used for education/relief etc. – IDRF doesn’t take donor’s money to travel, run newsletters and conduct agitations like Sabrang/FOIL do.

who turn around and use it to spread sectarian hatred as has been shown elsewhere.(Part 4 of the report, A Foreign Exchange of Hate).

• Nothing of the sort has been shown, nor is there anything to show, because this is another blatant lie.

Q 6. What is wrong with IDRF being part of Hindutva ideology, especially if they are doing relief and rehabilitation work and within legal framework ?

• Nothing, even if they were part of any ideology.

• Sabrang/FOIL are Left Anarchist Fundamentalists, yet it's not because of anyone’s obstruction that they don’t do anything useful

A. Please note that we are not saying that IDRF is directly funding the acquisition of weapons.

• Wow! In other words, Sabrang/FOIL would be happy if they WERE buying AK-47s and "IEDs" to blow up buses like Sabrang/FOIL’s friends in the Taliban, Lashkar-e-Toiba and Marxist terrorist groups in West Bengal and Orissa?

We are saying that IDRF offers a cover of respectability for funding organizations engaged in hate campaigns.

• In other words, all they can see is that IDRF is respectable.

• Their claim about the “organizations” being engaged in “hate campaigns” is thoroughly debunked by just thinking a minute about the organizations so slandered. 

Its (IDRF’s) volunteers are all trained political activists of the Sangh Parivar,

• FLAT, BLATANT LIE. The author of this analysis is also a “volunteer” for IDRF, and can assure readers, with plenty of people to confirm it,  that Sabrang / FOIL / FOSA is lying here.

• The fact that Sabrang / FOIL /FOSA KNOW they're lying is proved by their backpedaling elsewhere [[xxviii] ] – accompanied by continued display of this lie as answer to Frequently Asked Questions

and the Sangh creates the conditions in which communal violence easily springs up.

• What does that mean? That it feeds people? That it teaches people that the secessionist hatred preached by the Marxists, Pan-Islamists and  Jubilee Church is not true?

The Rashtriya Swayamsevk Sangh (RSS) and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), key organizations in the Hindutva movement, are shadowy organizations

• They have existed for over 77 years, and are completely public. They are grassroots organizations of dedicated social workers, not top-down Politburo-type Marxist organizations, nor Pakistani military-terrorist juntas

which have been banned several times in India for fomenting communal violence.

• By political micro-dictators -   and they were un-banned whenever the courts intervened, obviously.

VHP and RSS workers have been implicated in murderous activities.

• “Implicated” by the likes of Sabrang/FOIL is a far cry from “proven to be guilty by due process of the law”. The number of RSS/VHP “workers” even accused of violence is nowhere near that of Communists, Congress (I) and Pan-Islam terrorists shown to be guilty of violence

Numerous judicial inquiries have noted the role of RSS in creating conditions for communal riots.

• Anything ever stick in a court of law in a proper trial?

Now, as a matter of strategy, RSS and VHP operate through front organizations which are legally registered and function as charities.

• Thanks! In other words, deleting the hype, Sabrang admits that “RSS and VHP operate through legally registered, functioning charities.”

RSS itself has no legal status.

• Accusation or whine? What “legal status” does one need  to help others? Maybe in Communist / Shariah paradises, not in free democracies.  “RSS” stands for “Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh” – National VOLUNTEER helpers’ group.

It maintains no membership rolls.

• Nor does “it” need to. It's not the Communist Party (Marxist) which hosts the "intellectual work" of the Sabrang/ FOIL authors Biju Mathew and Vijay Prashad.

It has no internal democracy

• It “operates” in the world’s largest democracy.

and its accounts are never audited publicly.

• Audits are conducted of individual organizations which handle money. A group of people sharing common ideals has no need of any “audit” except in communist or Shariah dictatorships

Q 7. But Hindutva organizations claim that it is the missionaries and madarsas which initiate the problem. Is this not true ?

• IDRF has not "claimed" anything of the sort - the facts speak for themselves. This is Sabrang/FOIL at their old game: divide Indians and Indian-Americans along communal lines, and spread hatred.

A. It is mostly not true.

• What does “mostly” mean? 3%? 25%? 50%? 75%?

There may be missions which convert.

• Wonder if they thought they should check into that – if the terms “fairness” or "objectivity" ever occurred in their “research”?

There may be  madarsas where hatred is taught.

• Element of doubt, always the element of doubt….

• All those reports from Pakistan are false, heh?

But there is a difference. Christian missions in India have also done a lot of educational and medical service.

• In other words, Sabrang claims that if any organization does “a lot of educational and medical service”, there is a “difference”, even if some of those organizations “teach hatred” and “convert”!

Similarly there are many Hindu religious missions which do not preach communalism for instance, the Ramakrishna Missions).

• Of course there are MANY "Hindu" religious missions which do not preach communalism - hard to think of any that DO "preach communalism" . However, that statement is placed here by Sabrang / FOIL / FOSA to convey that "Sabrang/FOIL does not oppose Ramakrishna Missions. "

• That is a blatant, disgusting lie to hide Sabrang/FOIL’s own agenda and history. Sabrang’s Report explicitly categorizes organizations of the Ramakrishna Mission as “RSS-affiliated” and “hate-spreading”. Again, they want to keep people from actually READING their report, and the “basis” for their hoopla.

• In 1985, Ramakrishna Mission was FORCED to declare itself a "NON-HINDU" organization to avoid takeover and destruction of its hospitals, medical colleges, and orphanages by the Marxist Communists of West Bengal and Kerala - Sabrang / FOIL's sponsors and idols.

India has a tradition of social work inspired by religion.

• Correct. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with IDRF founders being likewise “inspired by religion” to do their excellent social work, nor in their selecting NGOs in India which are likewise “inspired by religion” to to do excellent, efficient, effective social work. This is a heck of a lot better than being inspired by General Musharraf, Karl Marx, Mao ze Dong or Osama bin Laden to conduct anarchist propaganda, as Sabrang / FOIL’s crew appears to be.

Mahatma Gandhi is a great example of how one can learn good things from all religions.

• Correct. And the Marxists and Pan-Islamists  opposed Mahatma Gandhi bitterly all his life. Sabrang / FOIL's Marxist Communists, Pakistan-loyalists, wife-beating proponents and other anarchists here are not good examples for anyone.

The Sangh Parivar is however different. Their social work is always motivated by a program of communal politics.

• Sabrang / FOIL’s bigoted political agenda comes through loud and clear.

Q 8. How exactly is IDRF misleading donors? Doesn't it tell contributors through its web-site where the money is going?

• Sabrang / FOIL's own answer: “Yes, IDRF does put the list of the recipients of its fund on its web-site.”

A. Yes, IDRF does put the list of the recipients of its fund on its web-site.

• Yes. They should know. That's about the only source that they used in what they call their "meticulous research"!

However, merely revealing the identities of the receiving organizations does not inform people about the true nature of their activities.

• Neither does a bunch of  bigots downloading a list posted by IDRF, and sorting organizations into “RSS-affiliated” and “Hinduization /conversion” - nor advertising that as a “Comprehensive, In-Depth Report” as the Sabrang/FOIL crew has done

As the report "A Foreign Exchange of Hate" shows, an overwhelming number of organizations receiving IDRF funding are Sangh fronts.

• As any child can determine by looking at the “data” in said report, it shows exactly the opposite.

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It took meticulous research to establish this connection.

• Let us enjoy a moment of laughter.

Most ordinary donors take IDRF's contention at face value and give their money thinking that they are funding welfare projects for the poor.

• Not ONE out of the 2766 seen until January 1, 2003 on the Sabrang/FOIL Petition says anything close  to “I am an IDRF donor, not happy with what IDRF did with my money”

They are therefore not aware of the fact that their money is distributed to support Hindutva's communal politics.

• Because it is not.

IDRF knows that if it were upfront about its connection to the Sangh, many decent and fair-minded contributors would refuse to give it any money.

• Many people have sent in contributions to IDRF citing the need to counter Sabrang/FOIL’s lies.

• Of all (2766) Hate-Petition [5] signers seen to-date (Jan.1) there is NOT a SINGLE  “dissatisfied IDRF donor” !!!

That is why even though evidence shows overwhelmingly that IDRF is part of the sangh parivar, it continues to claim that it does not have anything to do with the Sangh Parivar.

• The evidence shows nothing of the sort, and IDRF claims nothing of the sort . IDRF does insist  that organizations be willing to work for relief and education in India, for Indians, and not try to foment secession, terrorism, anarchism or hatred.  Sabrang/FOIL won’t qualify.

We are "not objecting to people giving their money to a cause of their choosing,…

• Obviously they would like people to contribute to the SINGH Foundation instead, as the Sabrang “SOS” on Biju Mathew’s web page pleads. [ [xxix]]

..however reprehensible that may be.

• They are "not objecting” – they just call it “reprehensible” !!

We are concerned that IDRF is collecting this money under false pretences.

• Although they don’t contribute a penny themselves….

Q 9. How exactly is IDRF misleading corporations?

A. IDRF states that it does not subscribe to any religious, political, or sectarian agendas. Furthermore, it claims that it does not discriminate against any religion, sect, or race in either the collection or distribution of funds. The facts belie this contention. As the report, A Foreign Exchange of Hate demonstrates clearly,

• IDRF does not subscribe to any religious, political, or sectarian agenda. Correct.

• It does not discriminate against any religion, sect or race in either the collection or distribution of funds. Correct.

• The facts support these, despite Sabrang/FOIL’s trying to twist and misrepresent them.

• The Sabrang/FOIL report clearly demonstrates  the gross disregard for the truth by its authors and supporters.

IDRF does operate in a sectarian fashion

• Goebbels / Musharraf  School : Repeat a lie many times, because fools may believe it then.

and does send money almost exclusively to organizations that are not only explicitly religious, but also subscribe to a divisive ideology that seeks to construct India as a monotheistic and intolerant state.

• Please see the list of organizations that IDRF supports, and decide for yourself whether orphanages, schools, hospitals, leprosy-patient care centers, yoga centers, agricultural Extension Centers, are all “explicitly religious and subscribe to divisive ideology” – or whether the divisive ideology is in the hate-authors’  sick  minds.

Most corporations and donation portals have criteria and guidelines that make religious and political organizations ineligible for receiving matching donations.

• Sabrang/FOIL should know, because chances are that most corporations are too smart to fund the SINGH foundation to help “needy” communists and Islamic anarchists  fly around the world.

IDRF has gone to great lengths to conceal its sectarian and discriminatory agenda and has posed as a development and relief organization in order to qualify for such grants. This is deceptive..

• IDRF posts everything about it on the internet. See http://www.idrf.org

• Sabrang/FOIL’s websites are increasingly disappearing behind “members-only” walls. [[xxx]]

and should give corporations enough reason to dissociate themselves from IDRF.

• If the corporations were run by Communist anarchists...

• In other words,after  five years of doing nothing but agitating, and then laying a rotten egg full of lies and bloopers, they have nothing better than this whine of envy to show  the corporations.

It should be also noted here that despite repeated requests, the IDRF has refused to set up funds for sectarian violence in India when Muslims or Christians are the primary victims.

• Freudian slip, perhaps, but Correct. IDRF refuses to fund sectarian violence or any other violence against anyone, including Muslims and Christians. The motivations of those who “repeatedly request” IDRF to set up funds for sectarian violence, should of course be questioned. Sorry to disappoint them - perhaps they should have their heads examined, though..

This is especially striking when one realizes that IDRF has made a lot of noise and collected funds for Hindu victims of communal carnage in other countries, but never for Muslim victims in India.

• Sabrang/FOIL collect money mainly  for themselves, so it is especially interesting that they should be “struck” by IDRF’s claimed inability to reach all needy people.

• IDRF does help people in cases of natural disasters – without regard for religion, caste etc.  IDRF does help war victims.  IDRF conveys money to approved organizations based on donor requests. Elsewhere in their Foreigh Exchange of Hate Report and Hate websites, Sabrang/FOIL claims that IDRF’s collection of money for the families of New York firefighters and other casualties of the 9/11 terrorist strike was also “anti-Muslim".. ” because, according to Sabrang / FOIL, “the attackers were Muslims!!! "

Lies – 19  (24.675%)

Half-truths -  3  (3.896%)

Sermons – 3  (3.896%)

Whines - 5  (6.493%)

Misrepresentations: - 4 (5.195%)

Laughs – 43  (55.844%)