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From: Tartan & Charly  <[email protected]>
Date: Fri Jul 27, 2001 8:02pm
Subject: RE: why so many messages?

 
I think it was reset by owner, no matter what you chose, owner still has
last word. Have you checked?

Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
Montreal, Canada
11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E, Garlic caps, homemade and
veggies
epiAngels http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders



-----Original Message-----
From: uwasv waya [mailto:uwasv_waya@y...]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many messages?


Who and why should only take a few words. My settings
are for no email and I'm still getting it.


--- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...> wrote:
> Long story :) If you want no mail best do a check
> folks.
>
> Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> Montreal, Canada
> 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E,
> Garlic caps, homemade and
> veggies
> epiAngels
> http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uwasv waya [mailto:uwasv_waya@y...]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> messages?
>
>
> Who reset everything and why?
>
>
> --- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...> wrote:
> > you need to go change your settings to no mail.
> > Every thing was reset
> > lately.
> >
> > Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> > Montreal, Canada
> > 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E,
> > Garlic caps, homemade and
> > veggies
> > epiAngels
> > http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> > http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> > http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eve Thorp [mailto:shrinkingeve@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:49 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> > messages?
> >
> >
> > Why in the last day have I started getting all
> these
> > messages from this
> > group?
> >
> > I need to remove myself.
> >
> > Eve
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Vickie Queen
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:50 PM
> >   Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] Thanks AngelPie
> >
> >
> >   I was trying to accommodate at the same time not
> > realizing that I was
> >   putting the Board at the risk of being deleted.
> > Thanks for this
> >   valuable information.
> >
> >   Much appreciated,
> >   Vickie
> >
> >
> >   > Dear Vickie,
> >   >
> >   > This situation is an extremely serious one,
> > perhaps graver than you
> >   realize.
> >   > I did a cursory review of the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service and the Help
> >   files
> >   > governing groups, jotting down a few points
> that
> > may help.
> >   >
> >   > 1)  Under TOS Item#6. MEMBER CONDUCT
> >   >
> >   > You agree to not use the Service to:
> >   >
> >   > f. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise
> > make available any
> >   Content
> >   > that
> >   >  infringes any patent, trademark, trade
> secret,
> > copyright or other
> >   >  proprietary rights ("Rights") of any party;
> >   >
> >   > g. upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise
> > make available any
> >   unsolicited
> >   >  or unauthorized advertising, promotional
> > materials, "junk
> >   mail," "spam,"
> >   >  "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any
> > other form of
> >   solicitation,
> >   > except
> >   >  in those areas (such as shopping rooms) that
> > are designated for
> >   such
> >   >  purpose;
> >   >
> >   > k.  intentionally or unintentionally violate
> any
> > applicable local,
> >   state,
> >   > national or
> >   >  international law, including, but not limited
> > to, regulations
> >   promulgated
> >   > by
> >   >  the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission,
> > any rules of any
> >   national or
> >   >  other securities exchange, including, without
> > limitation, the New
> >   York
> >   >  Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange
> or
> > the NASDAQ, and
> >   >  any regulations having the force of law;
> >   >
> >   > While you may not appreciate how these apply,
> > consider that a
> >   product name
> >   > and trademark are likely attached to many of
> > these ads.
> >   Furthermore, state
> >   > and local tax laws are often circumvented or
> > inappropriately
> >   applied in this
> >   > sort of advertising.  Even on home based
> > products and services a
> >   DBA (doing
> >   > business as) must be minimally held for
> Internet
> > commerce and sales
> >   filed
> >   > with the local city/county authorities.  And,
> as
> > you can see in
> >   item g., all
> >   > forms of advertising except in the appropriate
> > areas are strictly
> >   > prohibited.
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > 2) SPAM Policy
> >
>
(http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/groups-05.html)
> >   >
> >   > Yahoo! Groups has a very strict policy about
> > spam: members
> >   > may not use our service to send unsolicited or
> > unauthorized
> >   > advertising, promotional materials, spam,
> chain
> > letters,
> >   > multilevel/pyramid schemes, or any other form
> of
> > solicitation.
> >   >
> >   > If you are receiving unwanted messages or
> spam,
> > learn how to
> >   > unsubcribe. Although no email-based group is
> > completely safe
> >   > from potential spam abuse, Yahoo! Groups
> reacts
> > quickly to any
> >   > complaints of spam and may remove any member
> who
> > violates
> >   > our Terms of Service.
> >   >
> >   > That's a cut and paste.
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > 3) Help File
> >   >
> >
>
(http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/messages/messages-13.html)
> >   >
> >   > If you are not the moderator of the group,
> > contact the moderator
> >   > and alert him/her to the problem. If you are
> the
> > moderator, you
> >   > have several options:
> >   >
> >   > As a first step, send a warning message to the
> > member.
> >   > If the member continues to send inappropriate
> > messages,
> >   > you can turn off their ability to post to the
> > group.
> >   > You can unsubscribe the member by setting this
> > option in
> >   > the Subscriber section of the Members area.
> >   > You can permanently ban the member by entering
> > their
> >   > email address in the Banned section of the
> > Members area.
> >   > You can unsubscribe the author of an offensive
> > message
> >   > through the Message View on the group's
> message
> > board.
> >   >
> >   > That's the background information you need to
> > get started.  My
> >   > recommendation would be to create a letter as
> a
> > "special
> >   announcement" to
> >   > your members, suggesting that the continued
> > advertising in your
> >   group is
> >   > considered by Yahoo! to be a violation of the
> > Terms of Service and
> >   may
> >   > result in the loss of the group.  This
> statement
> > is perfectly true
> >   if any
> >   > one of your members reports your group or if
> the
> > Yahoo! group
> >   surfers happen
> >   > to visit you and note the content.  Include in
> > your letter a
> >   statement of
> >   > policy concerning what you consider to be
> > inappropriate message
> >   content
> >   > based on the information above.  Upload a copy
> > of this policy into
> >   your
> >   > Files folder for your group FAQs and include
> > this policy in your
> >   welcome
> >   > letter to new subscribers.
> >   >
> >   > If these actions do not result in the
> cessation
> > of the offending
> >   posts, you
> >   > may need to take those actions proscribed in
> 3).
> >   >
> >   > AngelPie_Mouse
> >   > Yahoo! Club Founders' Club
> >   > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/clubfoundersclub
> >   > http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub
> >   > CFC_Experimental2
> >   >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cfc_experimental2
> >   > Yahoo! Group of Groups
> >   >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yahoo_group_of_groups
> >
> >
> >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> >               ADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> to:
> >   [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> Yahoo!
> > Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> with Yahoo! Messenger
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>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
>


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290

From: uwasv waya  <[email protected]>
Date: Fri Jul 27, 2001 7:54pm
Subject: RE: why so many messages?

 
When I got the first 4 in this thread I checked and I
was set to get email. I changed it and as of 2 minutes
ago it was still at no email.


--- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...> wrote:
> I think it was reset by owner, no matter what you
> chose, owner still has
> last word. Have you checked?
> 
> Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> Montreal, Canada
> 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E,
> Garlic caps, homemade and
> veggies
> epiAngels
> http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uwasv waya [mailto:uwasv_waya@y...]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> messages?
> 
> 
> Who and why should only take a few words. My
> settings
> are for no email and I'm still getting it.
> 
> 
> --- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...> wrote:
> > Long story :) If you want no mail best do a check
> > folks.
> >
> > Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> > Montreal, Canada
> > 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E,
> > Garlic caps, homemade and
> > veggies
> > epiAngels
> > http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> > http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> > http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: uwasv waya [mailto:uwasv_waya@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:32 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> > messages?
> >
> >
> > Who reset everything and why?
> >
> >
> > --- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...>
> wrote:
> > > you need to go change your settings to no mail.
> > > Every thing was reset
> > > lately.
> > >
> > > Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> > > Montreal, Canada
> > > 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit
> E,
> > > Garlic caps, homemade and
> > > veggies
> > > epiAngels
> > > http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> > > http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> > > http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eve Thorp [mailto:shrinkingeve@y...]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:49 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> > > messages?
> > >
> > >
> > > Why in the last day have I started getting all
> > these
> > > messages from this
> > > group?
> > >
> > > I need to remove myself.
> > >
> > > Eve
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Vickie Queen
> > >   To: [email protected]
> > >   Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:50 PM
> > >   Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] Thanks AngelPie
> > >
> > >
> > >   I was trying to accommodate at the same time
> not
> > > realizing that I was
> > >   putting the Board at the risk of being
> deleted.
> > > Thanks for this
> > >   valuable information.
> > >
> > >   Much appreciated,
> > >   Vickie
> > >
> > >
> > >   > Dear Vickie,
> > >   >
> > >   > This situation is an extremely serious one,
> > > perhaps graver than you
> > >   realize.
> > >   > I did a cursory review of the Yahoo! Terms
> of
> > > Service and the Help
> > >   files
> > >   > governing groups, jotting down a few points
> > that
> > > may help.
> > >   >
> > >   > 1)  Under TOS Item#6. MEMBER CONDUCT
> > >   >
> > >   > You agree to not use the Service to:
> > >   >
> > >   > f. upload, post, email, transmit or
> otherwise
> > > make available any
> > >   Content
> > >   > that
> > >   >  infringes any patent, trademark, trade
> > secret,
> > > copyright or other
> > >   >  proprietary rights ("Rights") of any party;
> > >   >
> > >   > g. upload, post, email, transmit or
> otherwise
> > > make available any
> > >   unsolicited
> > >   >  or unauthorized advertising, promotional
> > > materials, "junk
> > >   mail," "spam,"
> > >   >  "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any
> > > other form of
> > >   solicitation,
> > >   > except
> > >   >  in those areas (such as shopping rooms)
> that
> > > are designated for
> > >   such
> > >   >  purpose;
> > >   >
> > >   > k.  intentionally or unintentionally violate
> > any
> > > applicable local,
> > >   state,
> > >   > national or
> > >   >  international law, including, but not
> limited
> > > to, regulations
> > >   promulgated
> > >   > by
> > >   >  the U.S. Securities and Exchange
> Commission,
> > > any rules of any
> > >   national or
> > >   >  other securities exchange, including,
> without
> > > limitation, the New
> > >   York
> > >   >  Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange
> > or
> > > the NASDAQ, and
> > >   >  any regulations having the force of law;
> > >   >
> > >   > While you may not appreciate how these
> apply,
> > > consider that a
> > >   product name
> > >   > and trademark are likely attached to many of
> > > these ads.
> > >   Furthermore, state
> > >   > and local tax laws are often circumvented or
> > > inappropriately
> > >   applied in this
> > >   > sort of advertising.  Even on home based
> > > products and services a
> > >   DBA (doing
> > >   > business as) must be minimally held for
> > Internet
> > > commerce and sales
> > >   filed
> > >   > with the local city/county authorities. 
> And,
> > as
> > > you can see in
> > >   item g., all
> > >   > forms of advertising except in the
> appropriate
> > > areas are strictly
> > >   > prohibited.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > 2) SPAM Policy
> > >
> >
>
(http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/groups-05.html)
> > >   >
> > >   > Yahoo! Groups has a very strict policy about
> > > spam: members
> > >   > may not use our service to send unsolicited
> or
> > > unauthorized
> > >   > advertising, promotional materials, spam,
> > chain
> > > letters,
> > >   > multilevel/pyramid schemes, or any other
> form
> > of
> > > solicitation.
> > >   >
> > >   > If you are receiving unwanted messages or
> > spam,
> > > learn how to
> > >   > unsubcribe. Although no email-based group is
> > > completely safe
> > >   > from potential spam abuse, Yahoo! Groups
> > reacts
> > > quickly to any
> > >   > complaints of spam and may remove any member
> > who
> > > violates
> > >   > our Terms of Service.
> > >   >
> > >   > That's a cut and paste.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > 3) Help File
> > >   >
> > >
> >
>
(http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/messages/messages-13.html)
> > >   >
> > >   > If you are not the moderator of the group,
> > > contact the moderator
> > >   > and alert him/her to the problem. If you are
> > the
> > > moderator, you
> > >   > have several options:
> > >   >
> > >   > As a first step, send a warning message to
> the
> > > member.
> > >   > If the member continues to send
> inappropriate
> > > messages,
> > >   > you can turn off their ability to post to
> the
> > > group.
> > >   > You can unsubscribe the member by setting
> this
> > > option in
> > >   > the Subscriber section of the Members area.
> > >   > You can permanently ban the member by
> entering
> > > their
> > >   > email address in the Banned section of the
> > > Members area.
> > >   > You can unsubscribe the author of an
> offensive
> > > message
> > >   > through the Message View on the group's
> > message
> > > board.
> > >   >
> > >   > That's the background information you need
> to
> > > get started.  My
> > >   > recommendation would be to create a letter
> as
> > a
> > > "special
> > >   announcement" to
> > >   > your members, suggesting that the continued
> > > advertising in your
> > >   group is
> > >   > considered by Yahoo! to be a violation of
> the
> > > Terms of Service and
> > >   may
> > >   > result in the loss of the group.  This
> > statement
> > > is perfectly true
> > >   if any
> > >   > one of your members reports your group or if
> > the
> > > Yahoo! group
> > >   surfers happen
> > >   > to visit you and note the content.  Include
> in
> > > your letter a
> > >   statement of
> > >   > policy concerning what you consider to be
> > > inappropriate message
> > >   content
> > >   > based on the information above.  Upload a
> copy
> > > of this policy into
> > >   your
> > >   > Files folder for your group FAQs and include
> > > this policy in your
> > >   welcome
> > >   > letter to new subscribers.
> > >   >
> > >   > If these actions do not result in the
> > cessation
> > > of the offending
> > >   posts, you
> > >   > may need to take those actions proscribed in
> > 3).
> > >   >
> > >   > AngelPie_Mouse
> > >   > Yahoo! Club Founders' Club
> > >   >
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/clubfoundersclub
> > >   > http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub
> > >   > CFC_Experimental2
> > >   >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cfc_experimental2
> > >   > Yahoo! Group of Groups
> > >   >
> > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yahoo_group_of_groups
> > >
> > >
> > >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > >               ADVERTISEMENT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> > to:
> > >   [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> > Yahoo!
> > > Terms of Service.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> to:
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute
> > with Yahoo! Messenger
> > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute
> with Yahoo! Messenger
> http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> 
> 
> 
> 


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291

From: uwasv waya  <[email protected]>
Date: Fri Jul 27, 2001 7:55pm
Subject: RE: why so many messages?

 
If you don't know who changed the settings why did you
say that it was a long story?


--- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...> wrote:
> I think it was reset by owner, no matter what you
> chose, owner still has
> last word. Have you checked?
> 
> Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> Montreal, Canada
> 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E,
> Garlic caps, homemade and
> veggies
> epiAngels
> http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uwasv waya [mailto:uwasv_waya@y...]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> messages?
> 
> 
> Who and why should only take a few words. My
> settings
> are for no email and I'm still getting it.
> 
> 
> --- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...> wrote:
> > Long story :) If you want no mail best do a check
> > folks.
> >
> > Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> > Montreal, Canada
> > 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit E,
> > Garlic caps, homemade and
> > veggies
> > epiAngels
> > http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> > http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> > http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: uwasv waya [mailto:uwasv_waya@y...]
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:32 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> > messages?
> >
> >
> > Who reset everything and why?
> >
> >
> > --- Tartan & Charly <tartancharly@s...>
> wrote:
> > > you need to go change your settings to no mail.
> > > Every thing was reset
> > > lately.
> > >
> > > Tartan and all 9 4-legged beasts
> > > Montreal, Canada
> > > 11 yr old, Nutro Lamb&Rice, Pb, Omega 3&6, Vit
> E,
> > > Garlic caps, homemade and
> > > veggies
> > > epiAngels
> > > http://canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/
> > > http://www.geocities.com/lo_forde
> > > http://www.geocities.com/sheltiefounders
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Eve Thorp [mailto:shrinkingeve@y...]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:49 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] why so many
> > > messages?
> > >
> > >
> > > Why in the last day have I started getting all
> > these
> > > messages from this
> > > group?
> > >
> > > I need to remove myself.
> > >
> > > Eve
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Vickie Queen
> > >   To: [email protected]
> > >   Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:50 PM
> > >   Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] Thanks AngelPie
> > >
> > >
> > >   I was trying to accommodate at the same time
> not
> > > realizing that I was
> > >   putting the Board at the risk of being
> deleted.
> > > Thanks for this
> > >   valuable information.
> > >
> > >   Much appreciated,
> > >   Vickie
> > >
> > >
> > >   > Dear Vickie,
> > >   >
> > >   > This situation is an extremely serious one,
> > > perhaps graver than you
> > >   realize.
> > >   > I did a cursory review of the Yahoo! Terms
> of
> > > Service and the Help
> > >   files
> > >   > governing groups, jotting down a few points
> > that
> > > may help.
> > >   >
> > >   > 1)  Under TOS Item#6. MEMBER CONDUCT
> > >   >
> > >   > You agree to not use the Service to:
> > >   >
> > >   > f. upload, post, email, transmit or
> otherwise
> > > make available any
> > >   Content
> > >   > that
> > >   >  infringes any patent, trademark, trade
> > secret,
> > > copyright or other
> > >   >  proprietary rights ("Rights") of any party;
> > >   >
> > >   > g. upload, post, email, transmit or
> otherwise
> > > make available any
> > >   unsolicited
> > >   >  or unauthorized advertising, promotional
> > > materials, "junk
> > >   mail," "spam,"
> > >   >  "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any
> > > other form of
> > >   solicitation,
> > >   > except
> > >   >  in those areas (such as shopping rooms)
> that
> > > are designated for
> > >   such
> > >   >  purpose;
> > >   >
> > >   > k.  intentionally or unintentionally violate
> > any
> > > applicable local,
> > >   state,
> > >   > national or
> > >   >  international law, including, but not
> limited
> > > to, regulations
> > >   promulgated
> > >   > by
> > >   >  the U.S. Securities and Exchange
> Commission,
> > > any rules of any
> > >   national or
> > >   >  other securities exchange, including,
> without
> > > limitation, the New
> > >   York
> > >   >  Stock Exchange, the American Stock Exchange
> > or
> > > the NASDAQ, and
> > >   >  any regulations having the force of law;
> > >   >
> > >   > While you may not appreciate how these
> apply,
> > > consider that a
> > >   product name
> > >   > and trademark are likely attached to many of
> > > these ads.
> > >   Furthermore, state
> > >   > and local tax laws are often circumvented or
> > > inappropriately
> > >   applied in this
> > >   > sort of advertising.  Even on home based
> > > products and services a
> > >   DBA (doing
> > >   > business as) must be minimally held for
> > Internet
> > > commerce and sales
> > >   filed
> > >   > with the local city/county authorities. 
> And,
> > as
> > > you can see in
> > >   item g., all
> > >   > forms of advertising except in the
> appropriate
> > > areas are strictly
> > >   > prohibited.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > 2) SPAM Policy
> > >
> >
>
(http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/groups-05.html)
> > >   >
> > >   > Yahoo! Groups has a very strict policy about
> > > spam: members
> > >   > may not use our service to send unsolicited
> or
> > > unauthorized
> > >   > advertising, promotional materials, spam,
> > chain
> > > letters,
> > >   > multilevel/pyramid schemes, or any other
> form
> > of
> > > solicitation.
> > >   >
> > >   > If you are receiving unwanted messages or
> > spam,
> > > learn how to
> > >   > unsubcribe. Although no email-based group is
> > > completely safe
> > >   > from potential spam abuse, Yahoo! Groups
> > reacts
> > > quickly to any
> > >   > complaints of spam and may remove any member
> > who
> > > violates
> > >   > our Terms of Service.
> > >   >
> > >   > That's a cut and paste.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > 3) Help File
> > >   >
> > >
> >
>
(http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/messages/messages-13.html)
> > >   >
> > >   > If you are not the moderator of the group,
> > > contact the moderator
> > >   > and alert him/her to the problem. If you are
> > the
> > > moderator, you
> > >   > have several options:
> > >   >
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> the
> > > member.
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> inappropriate
> > > messages,
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> the
> > > group.
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> this
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> as
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> > >   announcement" to
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> > cessation
> > > of the offending
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292

From: ROGER  <[email protected]>
Date: Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:30pm
Subject: CFC_E/CFC_E2

 
Hello everyone. As you have read, we have had a major setback in 
CFC_E. In the early hours of July 26 a member of CFC_E went thru the 
options and either disabled, closed or changed almost all the 
settings including deleting some files before deleting themself from 
the group. I tried to reset some of the options back to a default 
setting but there was to much damage done. The Group as it stands now 
is an invite only group. We started a second Group (CFC_E2) and have 
transfered the membership to CFC_E2. Again your settings would not 
have transfered over. Things are a bit of a mess while AngelPie and i 
do damage control, copy data and configure the new Group. We are also 
looking into whom may have done this and how. Needles to say we both 
both hours behind in our regular computer activities and sorry to say 
in our explanation to you. I would like to thank mistybunny for the 
postings that she did in explaining what was going on. This is the 
first time i have visited any of my Clubs/Groups in about 12 hours. 
We hope to have things settled down in the next day or so. We ask 
that you check your settings in either Group to ensure they are to 
your likeing. For those of you who may not have been transfered or 
need the new url CFC_E2 can be found at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFC_EXPERIMENTAL2.
roger
293

From: [email protected]
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:54am
Subject: Still gettung messages

 
i'm still gettin thee messages even though last night i changed my 
settings back to web only mail...i nearly died when i saw how many 
messages flooded into my mailbox from the malicious changing of 
settings!
297

From: Angel-Pie Mouse  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 7:59am
Subject: Two Groups... (A Learning Experience)

 
Actually, you might have been getting the messages from two groups: 
CFC_Experimental and CFC_Experimental2.  

Why?  I cannot rightly say we were hacked because the person who 
destroyed CFC_Experimental didn't need any special invitation or 
skills to do what they did.  Our first inkling that something was 
wrong came on Thursday morning; one of the people who was member of 
the group had, the night before, switched all the members in the group 
to "no email" access.  We had preferred to think it was an accident.  
The button for saving a change to one's personal settings is just 
below the one that changes the entire group.  However, he/she had 
followed this up by changing the "Settings/Membership" to "no one may 
access," meaning we cannot kick or remove anyone, and then made the 
group "private."  At that time, we switched the members to "daily 
digest" and wrote you all.  We had at first thought that the access 
switch had been the extent of the tampering and did not notice the 
other two changes.  As I said, we thought it was an accident.

It was not and accident.  As you know, the nature of CFC_Experimental 
is to be open to everyone.  We might have been able to live without 
the controls to delete members, but having been turned "private" was 
the major defect we could not overcome.  It is irreversible. Thus, 
yesterday morning, we sent out a notice to all members that we had 
created CFC_Experimental2.  In order to send this notice, we had to 
switch all access temporarily to one that would allow mail.  We are 
sorry if this caused excessive mail to member mailboxes but it was the 
only way of communicating with you all quickly.  

We followed this up by inviting as many of you as was possible to join 
CFC_Experimental2, where we hoped we could resume something 
approaching normal operations once more.  It saddens us greatly that 
so many of you approach this incident with anger directed at the 
group.  We do understand, however, that many of you do not know what 
happened and, therefore, only appreciate the personal inconvenience 
albeit a temporary one.

Please know we cannot remove or unsubscribe anyone because we are 
locked out of these settings.  Please know that we cannot communicate 
with you at all if your access is "no email."  We are ourselves 
learning as we go here, but we do understand one thing completely, if 
you choose to quit us over this incident then the person who caused 
this damage has succeeded at what they set out to do.  It is as simple 
as that.

We will be removing as many of the previous posts that provided 
members with "how-to" information as possible and filing them in the 
FAQ Folder in Files in CFC_Experimental2 for the next several days.  
While we perform this activity, CFC_Experimental will remain open for 
current member use although for web access or "no mail" only.  This 
should be the last communication you receive from CFC_Experimental.  
Please join CFC_Experimental2.  

Sincerely yours,
CFC_Founders

Yahoo! Club Founders' Club
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/clubfoundersclub
http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub
CFC_Experimental2
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cfc_experimental2
Yahoo! Group of Groups
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yahoo_group_of_groups
298

From: April  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:18am
Subject: unsubscribing members

 
angel,
actually it appears there is a way to unsubscribe members afterall. 
if you go to "members" and click remove it will take you to a screen 
where you type in the e-mail address you want to unsubscribe. but 
normally where it gives my member information to the right it says 
edit membership. it normally also has a link to leave group but that 
link is not there. is that because of their changing the settings?
April
299

From: April  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:23am
Subject: re:

 
grrr. I sent the following message through my e-mail and it suddenly 
won't allow me to do so because it is html instead oftext only . it 
use to work. is this a setting they messed with as well?
that is dumb that there is even a setting that makes the owners 
unable to unsubscribe a member. 2nd of all why can't you communicate 
with us if we have it set to no mail? you should be able to atleast e-
mail the club members specifically. 

since it does list our e-mail address along side it. and we can 
communicate through the group rather than e-mail am I not correct?

no worries i am not going to leave the group for this incident. it 
isn't your fault this happened. and I feel sorry for you,roger, and 
misty a great deal!  if there is anything i can do to help let me 
know.

hugs!!

April musicalapril@h... 

p.s. I just set the setting to no mail and received this by mail... 
does this mean my setting has already changed? or did u change mine 
to individual e-mail to make sure I received this?
300

From: April  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:34am
Subject: bouncing members

 
what are "bouncing" members?
April
301

From: Angel-Pie Mouse  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:47am
Subject: Notice: Member Access Changed

 
Except for those members who expressed a desire for "Special 
Announcements" in their personal preferences, all member access has 
presently been changed to "no email."  We are sorry for the 
inconvenience of having to have switched all access previously and 
hope you will forgive us.
302

From: Eve Thorp  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:49am
Subject: Re: Notice: Member Access Changed

 
I have unsubscribe but still get the messages :(
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angel-Pie Mouse 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:47 AM
  Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] Notice: Member Access Changed


  Except for those members who expressed a desire for "Special 
  Announcements" in their personal preferences, all member access has 
  presently been changed to "no email."  We are sorry for the 
  inconvenience of having to have switched all access previously and 
  hope you will forgive us.


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303

From: ROGER  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 9:25am
Subject: no mail

 
hello all
    because of the number of complaints i have switched everyone in 
CFC E to special announcements. I hope this will help. sorry
            roger
304

From: AngelPie_Mouse  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 9:37am
Subject: Re: bouncing members

 
See Files/FAQs/bounce.txt

----- Original Message -----
From: "April" <musicalapril@h...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:34 AM
Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] bouncing members


> what are "bouncing" members?
> April
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
305

From: Eve Thorp  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 9:40am
Subject: Re: bouncing members

 
I did get this message.....
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AngelPie_Mouse 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] bouncing members


  See Files/FAQs/bounce.txt

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "April" <musicalapril@h...>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:34 AM
  Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] bouncing members


  > what are "bouncing" members?
  > April
  >
  >
  >
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  > [email protected]
  >
  >
  >
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306

From: AngelPie_Mouse  <[email protected]>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2001 9:59am
Subject: Re: re:

 
The only setting the scoundrel had access to affecting you personally was
your access preference, e.g.: "no mail," "special announcements," "daily
digest," "individual mail."  The HTML switch is only in your personal
preferences although I should say that I have that switched it off in my
personal options as I prefer text only particularly now with the sircam
virus on the lose (not sure it will help, but who knows).

The "no email" setting replaced the "web only access" setting some time ago,
when they installed the "special announcement" feature which only owners and
moderators may use.  It gives the individual member the option of turning
off everything and only receiving communication when they enter the group
website.  The moderator may override this choice as you saw from the
numerous complaints the past couple days, but does so at the risk of causing
member ire.  At present, we would prefer not to continue to anger everyone.

Postings will continue on CFC_Experimental, the closed version, for as long
as members choose to remain or until we are satisfied that the group no
longer functions.  However, all members were switched today to "no email" to
prevent further upset.  We will not be changing that again and only did so
to communicate the reason for creating CFC_Experimental2 and ask members to
remove themselves from the old group and join the new one.  It did cause
some confusion at the outset which we hope we have dispelled.  But, to
answer question, the point was that while you can continue to interact
online with the group, you will receive no more e-mails from the group
unless you alter your settings personally.

----- Original Message -----
From: "April" <musicalapril@h...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:23 AM
Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] re:


> grrr. I sent the following message through my e-mail and it suddenly
> won't allow me to do so because it is html instead oftext only . it
> use to work. is this a setting they messed with as well?
> that is dumb that there is even a setting that makes the owners
> unable to unsubscribe a member. 2nd of all why can't you communicate
> with us if we have it set to no mail? you should be able to atleast e-
> mail the club members specifically.
>
> since it does list our e-mail address along side it. and we can
> communicate through the group rather than e-mail am I not correct?
>
> no worries i am not going to leave the group for this incident. it
> isn't your fault this happened. and I feel sorry for you,roger, and
> misty a great deal!  if there is anything i can do to help let me
> know.
>
> hugs!!
>
> April musicalapril@h...
>
> p.s. I just set the setting to no mail and received this by mail...
> does this mean my setting has already changed? or did u change mine
> to individual e-mail to make sure I received this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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