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From:
AngelPie_Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Sat Apr 7, 2001 6:08am
Subject: Re:
Bouncing.......?
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Dear forgiven_u,
Bouncing, as I said on the CFC
message board reply, refers to e-mail. When an e-mail
does not deliver as addressed, it is said to "bounce."
There are various reasons for this to happen, as you are
probably aware.
1) Your mailbox is too full or
for some reason temporarily disabled by your provider and/or
your provider is refusing mail while performing maintenance on
its servers at the time delivery was attempted by
groups. The address is, thus, valid or can be
confirmed. Groups terms this a "soft bounce" and will
attempt delivery again later.
2) You have blocked e-mail from a
specific host or individual, or you have changed your e-mail
provider without changing the registered e-mail address with
groups such that the account no longer exists, you entered the
e-mail address incorrectly with groups (spelling error), or
for some reason your provider has permanently disabled the
account as addressed. The reply sent to groups indicates
there is no such address (fatal errors) and therefore groups
terms this a "hard bounce" and will not attempt delivery
again.
As I indicated in the message
board discussion, groups takes care of bouncing e-mail
automatically, unlike clubs. As you know,
subscribers (members) may elect to receive group posts
entirely by e-mail which means there may be periodic bounces
for any of the reasons above, even on owner or moderator
accounts. When e-mail soft bounces, groups puts that
address into a temporary buffer while it attempts to check the
address. Groups actually sends a notice to the
individual informing them of the problem. It says
something to the effect of: "E-mail sent you has bounced
causing us to place your subscription to groups in pending
status. If you have received this communication, it
means the problem was temporary and has been corrected. You
need take no action." Groups will make two or three such
attempts before it actually terminates the subscription,
removes the member from member list. Again, know that it
will do this to the owner or moderator as well as subscribers
(members) if there is an e-mail delivery problem, and
you could find yourself removed from your own group. (I
did mention it wasn't very forgiving, didn't
I?)
So, what you are looking at is a
history of e-mail that failed to deliver. It has little
to do with whether people chose to leave the group unless
they chose to unsubscribe by blocking or changing their e-mail
address. It can be a real pain in the fanny if someone
goes on vacation or is otherwise offline due to illness or
real-life obligations and their e-mail piles
up.
I am going to repost this
communication to the CFC message board to clarify the point
for others.
Sincerely yours,
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From: Faye <[email protected]>
Date:
Thu Apr 12, 2001 1:47pm
Subject: TEST
EMAIL TO MESSAGE BOARD
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It is I, the exalted one,
coming
to the CFC Experimental
Group
to see what is going on.
TRIAL EMAIL
Faye aka reynolds_40 |
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From: [email protected]
Date:
Thu Apr 12, 2001 7:19pm
Subject: New
poll for CFC_EXPERIMENTAL
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
CFC_EXPERIMENTAL group:
We try to present a good cross-section
of information in the Club Founders'
Club Newsletter. Which department is
most important to you?
o Editorial comments
o Chat Information
o Thread Digest
o Featured Clubs
o New Clubs
o Club Anniversaries
o Member News
o Technical and Software Review
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFC_EXPERIMENTAL/polls
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
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From:
Nowaywins <[email protected]>
Date:
Fri Apr 13, 2001 6:37am
Subject: Fw:
[shelties] It's us! (OT)
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crosss posted
How many E-group members does it take to change a
light bulb?
a.. 1,343
b.. 1 to change the light bulb
and to post to the mail list that
the light bulb has
been changed;
c.. 14 to share similar experiences of
changing light bulbs and
how the light bulb could
have been changed differently;
d.. 7 to caution about the
dangers of changing light bulbs;
e.. 27 to point out
spelling/grammar errors in posts about
changing light
bulbs;
f.. 53 to flame the spell checkers;
g.. 41 to
correct spelling/grammar flames;
h.. 6 to argue over
whether it`s "lightbulb" or "light bulb";
i.. another 6 to
condemn those 6 as anal-retentive;
j.. 156 to write to the
list administrator about the light bulb
discussion
and its inappropriateness to this mail list;
k.. 109 to
post that this list is not about light bulbs and
to
please take this email exchange to
litebulb-l;
l.. 203 to demand that cross posting to
grammar-l, spelling-l and
illuminati-l about changing
light bulbs be stopped;
m.. 111 to defend the posting to
this list saying that we all use
light bulbs and
therefore the posts *are* relevant to this mail list;
n..
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs
is
superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what
brand of light bulbs
work best for this technique and
what brands are faulty;
o.. 27 to post URL`s where one can
see examples of different light
bulbs;
p.. 14 to
post that the URL`s were posted incorrectly and to
post
the corrected URL`s;
q.. 3 to post about
links they found from the URL`s that are
relevant to
this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this
list;
r.. 33 to link all posts to date, then quote them
including all
headers and footers and then add "Me
too";
s.. 12 to post to the list that they are
unsubscribing because
they cannot handle the light
bulb controversy;
t.. 19 to quote the "Me too`s" to say "Me
three";
u.. 4 to suggest that posters request the light
bulb FAQ;
v.. 44 to ask what is "FAQ";
w.. 4 to say
"didn't we go through this already a short time
ago
on "that other list"?"
x.. 143 to ask "what's
'the other list'?"
y.. 853 to pose the question -- "Should
light bulbs be changed?"
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From: Brenda <[email protected]>
Date:
Fri Apr 13, 2001 8:48pm
Subject: help
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I have been trying to post a front page picture in my group, and
haven't yet figured it out. Everytime I put one on and save changes
alls it does is put that little red x in the picture box. Can someone
tell me what I'm doing wrong. thank you. Brenda
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From:
AngelPie_Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Sat Apr 14, 2001 7:00am
Subject: Re:
help
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Dear Brenda,
Some of the information I provide
here may not apply to your specific problem. Because
others will be seeing this message, I include a few extra
details.
While Yahoo! groups states that:
"We support photo and image file formats (JPEG, GIF, BMP,
etc)," HTML generally only supports .jpg (three character
extension) or .gif graphical formats by International
agreement. Your input of a graphic into the settings
area may be governed by HTML rules. Thus, check the
extension or type of graphic you are using to be sure that it
is a format type that will be recognized by the
code.
The graphic must be
stored in an area where it is viewable by all. If it is
put in groups "Files" area, that means that files moderation
must be set to "anyone" (you'll see the place to
edit these options on Settings page, right hand
side, third section down entitled Features and
Options). If the moderation level is set above "anyone,"
you can click the edit button and change it.
Also, the complete address of the
picture must be present. For instance, the picture on
the front of CFC_Experimental is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFC_EXPERIMENTAL/files/CFC_Experimental20%Graphics/clubpix150a.gif
(note the full address including the name of file folders in
Files; the "20%" is used to designate a blank space in the
address). If you are using the group files section, your best
bet for getting the entire address of the graphic is to click
on the graphic in Files so that the image is all you see on
the page, highlight the address that appears in the location
space at the top of your browser, copy it (CTRL-C), and paste
it (CTRL-V) into your Settings area.
If you would prefer to keep your
group files viewable by members only or some other moderation
level, then you would have to find some other online storage
for the graphic. For example, an alternate storage for
the graphic above is:
http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub/cfc_experimental/clubpix150a.gif
Although this is still in the Yahoo! system, it is a slower
load because it is not on the same host server as the
group. You could similarly use any other online storage
or homepage space. (We'll be publishing a list of such
online storage soon although Yahoo! informs us that they will
be adding a Briefcase like storage system similar to Photos in
clubs to the groups interface in the next few
weeks.)
I hope I have provided sufficient
information to answer your question without confusing
you. I am well aware that there is a lot here, and I
will be only more than happy to talk to you further on this
topic.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 13,
2001 11:48 PM
Subject:
[CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] help
I have been trying to post a front page
picture in my group, and
haven't yet figured it out.
Everytime I put one on and save changes
alls it does is
put that little red x in the picture box. Can someone
tell me what I'm doing wrong. thank you.
Brenda
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From: Brenda <[email protected]>
Date:
Sat Apr 14, 2001 0:34pm
Subject: Re:
help
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angel pie, thank you so much for explaining it to me, yes it was
alittle confusing, at first but I tried it and the first time it
worked. thanks a bunch.
you can come look visit and or join my group at well don't have the
link with me, but its momsandgrandmasbraggingclub is the name of it.
Thanks again Brenda
--- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "AngelPie_Mouse" <AngelPie_Mouse@y...>
wrote:
> Dear Brenda,
>
> Some of the information I provide here may not apply to your
specific problem. Because others will be seeing this message, I
include a few extra details.
>
> While Yahoo! groups states that: "We support photo and image file
formats (JPEG, GIF, BMP, etc)," HTML generally only supports .jpg
(three character extension) or .gif graphical formats by
International agreement. Your input of a graphic into the settings
area may be governed by HTML rules. Thus, check the extension or
type of graphic you are using to be sure that it is a format type
that will be recognized by the code.
>
> The graphic must be stored in an area where it is viewable by all.
If it is put in groups "Files" area, that means that files moderation
must be set to "anyone" (you'll see the place to edit these options
on Settings page, right hand side, third section down entitled
Features and Options). If the moderation level is set
above "anyone," you can click the edit button and change it.
>
> Also, the complete address of the picture must be present. For
instance, the picture on the front of CFC_Experimental is:
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CFC_EXPERIMENTAL/files/CFC_Experimental2
0%Graphics/clubpix150a.gif (note the full address including the name
of file folders in Files; the "20%" is used to designate a blank
space in the address). If you are using the group files section, your
best bet for getting the entire address of the graphic is to click on
the graphic in Files so that the image is all you see on the page,
highlight the address that appears in the location space at the top
of your browser, copy it (CTRL-C), and paste it (CTRL-V) into your
Settings area.
>
> If you would prefer to keep your group files viewable by members
only or some other moderation level, then you would have to find some
other online storage for the graphic. For example, an alternate
storage for the graphic above is:
>
http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub/cfc_experimental/clubpix150a
.gif Although this is still in the Yahoo! system, it is a slower
load because it is not on the same host server as the group. You
could similarly use any other online storage or homepage space.
(We'll be publishing a list of such online storage soon although
Yahoo! informs us that they will be adding a Briefcase like storage
system similar to Photos in clubs to the groups interface in the next
few weeks.)
>
> If either of these answers do not fix the problem, please allow the
name of your group so that I can examine the specific code (be aware
that I may have to join to do so depending on your moderation).
Also, you will find information about customizing your owner message
text in the Technical and Software Review section of our February
newsletter: http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub/newsletter/v1i8-
page3.html#text and some additional information on customizing the
layout of text and graphics in the same section of our April
newsletter:
http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub/newsletter/tabledgraphics.ht
ml
>
> I hope I have provided sufficient information to answer your
question without confusing you. I am well aware that there is a lot
here, and I will be only more than happy to talk to you further on
this topic.
>
> AngelPie_Mouse
> Yahoo! Club Founders' Club
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/clubfoundersclub
> http://www.geocities.com/clubfoundersclub
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brenda
> To: CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y...
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 11:48 PM
> Subject: [CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] help
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>
> I have been trying to post a front page picture in my group, and
> haven't yet figured it out. Everytime I put one on and save
changes
> alls it does is put that little red x in the picture box. Can
someone
> tell me what I'm doing wrong. thank you. Brenda
>
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From: Angie <[email protected]>
Date:
Sun Apr 15, 2001 5:07pm
Subject: Linking
messages
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Do you know when the merge is complete, if we will be able to link
messages? It would be great if I could give my club members a link to a
message post instead of a post number to look up.
Thanks,
Angie
Founder of Got stamps?: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/gotstamps
Founder of Sleepless In Sacramento: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/
sleeplessinsacramento
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From:
Nowaywins <[email protected]>
Date:
Sun Apr 15, 2001 5:25pm
Subject: Re:
Linking messages
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hi Angie
thats one of those things that
haven't been worked out yet
----- Original Message -----
messages? It would be great if I could give my club
members a link to a
message post instead of a post number
to look up.
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From: Sharon <[email protected]>
Date:
Mon Apr 16, 2001 7:26pm
Subject: How
Did You Do That????????!!!!!!!!!
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I just love the Founder pictures! How did you do that??
HOW did you ADD MUSIC??? Share please???
Love Sharon
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From: Gwen <[email protected]>
Date:
Tue Apr 17, 2001 5:40am
Subject: Re:
How Did You Do That????????!!!!!!!!!
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Sharon:
You have to realize that this group is EXPERIMENTAL! Thats exactly
what AngelPie was doing here. Experimenting. She has basically used
HTML tags and put in music just like in a web site. Right now though
you can only hear it if you are using IE. I have Netscape and can't
hear it. I know that AngelPie was going to take it out today, so it
may not be there the next time you use it. She has also made
enquiries
with Yahoo regarding the use of HTML in owners messages. Please check
out the latest newsletter for information on using HTML in Groups
Owners messages. You can access that page here:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Cable/1415/newsletter/tabledgra
phics.html
Also stay tuned for more HTML help in future newsletters.
The character graphics were of course made by AngelPie_Mouse and put
into the owners message using Table Tags. I am pretty sure thats the
next Group HTML lesson in May's Newsletter! Stay tuned!
Mistybunny
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From: Angel-Pie
Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Tue Apr 17, 2001 8:35am
Subject: Re:
How Did You Do That????????!!!!!!!!!
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--- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "Sharon" <sharonlower@y...> wrote:
> I just love the Founder pictures! How did you do that??
>
> HOW did you ADD MUSIC??? Share please???
>
> Love Sharon
The founder's pictures are a set of four icons 50x50-pixel in size I
already had which I uploaded and tabled for display. They didn't have
to be tabled, but I wanted them centered, an equal distance apart, and
on the same row, and that does it.
The music (a midi file) was meant as a test. I was attempting to
determine whether music could be used. In the process, I discovered
that there are some limits to what we can use in the founder message.
1) We have only 2000 characters available. These characters can be
used not only with the information you see, but also with the HTML
code used to display it. That means font definitions, color
definitions, size, intensity, table definitions, line delineators--in
short all tags--take away from the amount of information you can
input. I suspect that the size of the picture or graphic also removes
characters available, certainly its code and address will.
2) Graphics stored in the Files section will only display for the
public if the moderation settings for Files is "anyone."
3) While you may upload bitmap, .avi, and other graphical formats to
the Files area for sharing with your members, only .jpg and .gif will
actually HTML code for display.
4) A script called SafeHTML Version 1.11 has been employed by Yahoo!
which filters the code you use in your owner message. It is meant to
protect against uploads self-extracting, self-executing files into the
space such as virus. Unfortunately, it also impacts some code
recognized by both IE and Netscape in the use of sound files. The
"bgsound src" command used by IE will put sound out there but will not
display the graphic necessary to control that sound. Neither will it
allow you to define volume in code. The International HTML rules
command "embed src" used by Netscape does not work at all.
I am presently attempting to acquire script parameters concerning what
tags will be accepted and what ignored. I've also asked if a sound
module can be added to the settings area later which might overcome
the restriction without compromising the safety of the code.
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From: Sharon <[email protected]>
Date:
Tue Apr 17, 2001 0:06pm
Subject: Re:
How Did You Do That????????!!!!!!!!!
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--- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "Angel-Pie Mouse" <AngelPie_Mouse@y...>
wrote:
> --- In CFC_EXPERIMENTAL@y..., "Sharon" <sharonlower@y...> wrote:
> > I just love the Founder pictures! How did you do that??
> >
> > HOW did you ADD MUSIC??? Share please???
> >
> > Love Sharon
>
> The founder's pictures are a set of four icons 50x50-pixel in size
I
> already had which I uploaded and tabled for display. They didn't
have
> to be tabled, but I wanted them centered, an equal distance apart,
and
> on the same row, and that does it.
>
> The music (a midi file) was meant as a test. I was attempting to
> determine whether music could be used. In the process, I
discovered
> that there are some limits to what we can use in the founder
message.
>
> 1) We have only 2000 characters available. These characters can be
> used not only with the information you see, but also with the HTML
> code used to display it. That means font definitions, color
> definitions, size, intensity, table definitions, line delineators--
in
> short all tags--take away from the amount of information you can
> input. I suspect that the size of the picture or graphic also
removes
> characters available, certainly its code and address will.
>
> 2) Graphics stored in the Files section will only display for the
> public if the moderation settings for Files is "anyone."
>
> 3) While you may upload bitmap, .avi, and other graphical formats
to
> the Files area for sharing with your members, only .jpg and .gif
will
> actually HTML code for display.
>
> 4) A script called SafeHTML Version 1.11 has been employed by
Yahoo!
> which filters the code you use in your owner message. It is meant
to
> protect against uploads self-extracting, self-executing files into
the
> space such as virus. Unfortunately, it also impacts some code
> recognized by both IE and Netscape in the use of sound files. The
> "bgsound src" command used by IE will put sound out there but will
not
> display the graphic necessary to control that sound. Neither will
it
> allow you to define volume in code. The International HTML rules
> command "embed src" used by Netscape does not work at all.
>
> I am presently attempting to acquire script parameters concerning
what
> tags will be accepted and what ignored. I've also asked if a sound
> module can be added to the settings area later which might overcome
> the restriction without compromising the safety of the code.
Dear Angel:
I tried to put the music in for experiment but didnt work..
I have a song on my Spree.com site..
Could you tell me how to load the music and where?? I have 2,000
character words.
Sharon
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From: Sharon <[email protected]>
Date:
Tue Apr 17, 2001 0:14pm
Subject: Midi
Player Music
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Dear AngelPie:
I uploaded some music for my group clubs...I have 2,000 words or
less..
What area do I add the Music too??
Thanks Sharon
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From:
AngelPie_Mouse <[email protected]>
Date:
Tue Apr 17, 2001 1:11pm
Subject: Re:
Midi Player Music
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Okay, with full knowledge that
you can only do this for users of MSIE browsers (Netscape
users will hear nothing), here is the command:
The ADDRESS is where you have the
sound file stored including file folders. It must be in
an online area with public access. If you put in your
group FILES directory, make sure the moderation is set for
"anyone."
EXT should be mid or wav.
That is only use those to sound file formats.
I have not included with this
command designations for the radio controls of the sound file
because the script Yahoo! is using ignores them.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April
17, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject:
[CFC_EXPERIMENTAL] Midi Player Music
Dear AngelPie:
I uploaded some
music for my group clubs...I have 2,000 words or
less..
What area do I add the Music
too??
Thanks Sharon
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