Errors in the Robot-Empire-Foundation Universe
This is a list of nit-picking errors found in the
Robot-Empire-Foundation Universe,
based on Asimov's books, with many other additions.
Whenever an error is mentioned,
I try to offer one (or more)
suggestions for corrections.
The errors are classified as
Errors in Time,
Errors in Space,
Errors in the Names of Characters,
Character Errors, and
Errors in Stars.
As usual, I recomend reading the books before reading my
comments, since I may put spoilers here
- Second Foundation, Search by the Foundation
many times mentions that it happens 50 years
after the death of the Mule. A more accurate number is
60 years
- Second Foundation, Search by the Foundation,
Chapter 16. Beginning of War equates Year 376 of the
Foundation Era to Year 11692
(
should be 12444) of the Galactic Era, and to
Year 455
(should be 456)
from the birth of Hari Seldon, and to
Year 76
(should be 66) from
the establishment of the First Citizenship by the Mule
(which I presume is the conquer of Kalgan).
- Second Foundation, Search by the Foundation
terminates with the following
quote (Chapter 22's last paragraph):
Eight months earlier, the First Speaker
had viewed those same crowding stars - nowhere as crowded as in
the central regions of that huge cluster of matter Man calls
the Galaxy - with misgivings, but now there was a somber
satisfaction on the round and ruddy face of Preem Palver -
First Speaker
Eight months is wrong, because the
previous reference to the First Speaker looking at the stars
and worrying about the future happened in Chapter 10,
ten months earlier.
- In Foundation's Edge, Part 2, Mayor, Chapter 2
Trevize is discussing with Mayor Branno, and says:
Can you believe it? The Second Foundation, according
to the account, was located and its various members
dealth with. That was 378 F.E.,
a hundred twenty years ago. (...)
378 F.E. doesn't fit with the
dates given in Second Foundation, Search by the Foundation,
that suggests that this date should be
377 F.E..
Lalaith suggests a different explanation, by shifting
all dates in the Second Foundation,
Search by the Foundation Timeline by about 6 months.
- Tyrann is mentioned in The Stars like Dust to be
500 light-years away
from Earth. Tyrann lies behind the Horsehead Nebula,
that is 1,600 light-years away from the Sun -
this is close enough to 500 parsecs to allow us to
suppose that Tyrann is 500 parsecs
away from Earth.
- The size of the Foundation-controlled area and the
Kalgan-controlled area in
Second Foundation - Search by the Foundation
are ridiculously small. During the Indburs, the
Foundation (Foundation and Empire, The Mule, Chapter 13,
Lieutenant and Clown)
ruled a quadrant of the Galaxy
with despotism.
The same chapter says that Kalgan
controlled a province. The hyerarchy of the Galactic Empire
enables us to estimate that a Quadrant might have up to
1/10
of the Galaxy (2.5 million solar systems),
a Sector might have 250,000 solar systems,
and a Province might have
2500 solar systems.
However, in the Stettinian War, the Foundation
loses all but the Four Kingdoms core
(about 100 solar systems),
and Kalgan controls 27 worlds.
Kalgan and the Union of Worlds
should be much bigger,
maybe a Sector (250,000 solar systems)
and the Foundation core should
be the Anacreonian Sector (250,000 solar systems)
- It's not surprising that the dimensions of the Kalgan space
are also too small: the diameter of it is
800 parsecs, given as the distance from Santanni to Locris.
There are two ways to save this information: one is supposing
that Santanni and Locris
lie at the opposite sides from Kalgan,
and then try to calculate the diameter of the Union of Worlds based
on its size.
The alternative is supposing that
Asimov made a confusion with Korell and Kalgan, and
all geographical informations about Kalgan
in Second Foundation - Search by the Foundation
are, in fact, those of Korell.
- In Foundation and Earth,
there are other stars in Alpha's sky when
Alpha Centauri B is visible. I think that this should not be possible:
the sky would be
almost blue, without other stars.
Errors in Space - Galactic size and shape
These errors are based on the form of the Milky-way. There
are many sites in the Web describing the Milky-way, but what
I need here is a short description: most stars of the Milky-way
lie in a flat disc, of diameter 40,000 parsecs and height
700 parsecs, with a denser nucleous of diameter 4,000 parsecs.
The spiral arms may extend up to 13,000 parsecs away
from the Center.
- In Foundation and Empire, The Mule, Chapter 21,
Interlude in Space, Toran Darell gives the coordinates
of Siwenna as
30000 parsecs, 80 deg west Trantor, 40 deg....
Two of these numbers are wrong: the distance from the center
of the Galaxy and the Galactic Latitude: Siwenna should
be close (but not very much) to Terminus, that is located in
the plane of the Galaxy in the Periphery. Maybe Toran had
made a deliberate confusion and Siwenna is
30000 light-years from the
Center of the Galaxy.
- In Prelude to Foundation. Chapter 9, Cleon I's
father is given as Stanel VI. Since
Stannel VI is mentioned in Foundation and
Stannel V is mentioned in Second Foundation, both
as post-Foundation Emperors, we might assume that Cleon I's
father was Stannel IV.
OTOH,
Lalaith conjectured that Onum Barr's reference to
Stannel VI as a Foundation Era
Emperor might be wrong, and the correct Emperor would be
Stannel VII (it's always safer
to assume a Character's Error over a Narrator's Error).
- Salvor Hardin, in Foundation, says that nuclear
power is 50,000 years old.
It should be
20,000 to 25,000 years old.
Those errors come from the fact that Stars that are too big
or bright would be short-lived, and thus they are unlikely to
have a life-supporting planet around them. Also, this planet
would have to be too far (see
my page about building a planet
around a main sequence star), and this might cause
some orbital problems, specially if the star has a companion.
- In Foundation's Edge, Trevize mentions that
there's no planet around any A or M star. This seems reasonable,
but it contradicts the references to habitable planets around
A stars. The compromising solution is
the supposition that those names are not
the name of the star but
the name of the Sector (or Province, or whatever)
of which the planet is the Capital.
Created: 2003-01-22
Return to
Alberto Monteiro's home page
This page was visited
times
Please send any comments to
[email protected]
Other Asimov stuff in this site:
Other pages with Errors in Asimov books:
This page hosted by
Get your own Free Home Page