The following is the second in a series of live, interviews conducted with Gorean slaves who are experiencing their slavery in real life with their Masters. The critics say it cant be done.. and yet these women say that their slavery is alive and well and there is no other way they would care to live :)

 cilla would like to thank Master Cavalier for allowing this interview with His slave and to lara{W} for being so open and sharing so many personal aspects of her life. It takes courage to share and cilla thanks you lara <hug>. If you would like to be interviewed please contact cilla at [email protected]

<cilla> lara.. thanks so much to your Master and you for agreeing to do this interview :)

 <lara{W}> Hey no problem cilla, no one's ever taken lara seriously before.

 <cilla> In my last interview with pet cilla mentioned she was with one of the most colourful Masters on Gor.. in my mind, you are one of the more 'colourful' slavegirls around and cilla has been looking forward to this interview. :) lara.. are you Gorean?

 * lara{W} is more gorean online then real life, lara is really what her Master wants her to be and that's 4-5 things wrapped into one. Sometimes he wants lara just to call him Tim, lara is His friend, lover, submissive, slave.

<cilla> Is that.. in front of others?

<lara{W}> Oh no.. in public lara doesn't wear a collar, we live in the bible belt.

 * cilla nods..

 * lara{W} was telling Master Bear how she got strange looks for asking permission in the grocery store, but for some reason it comes natural.

 <cilla> lara.. being your Masters' friend, lover, submissive as well as slave.. do you think that makes you any less "Gorean" in the eyes of others on irc?

 <lara{W}> Yes cilla, in the eyes of others. Master doesn’t understand why that bothers me. He doesn't put alot of stock in online stuff, He says as long as He has my submission He doesn't care what others think, but that's Master Cavalier, He never cared what other's think of Him. It was so funny when others found out He was coming here, they thought He would really abuse me, because He was so tough online, but cilla he is the most gentle and loving man lara has ever met.

* cilla smiles.. How long did you know Master Cavalier before meeting him? Were you collared to him, lara?

 <lara{W}> lara knew Him about six months online. lara was married when she first met him and was just really playing online. No, she was not collared until new years eve '96. lara was with Master Tazzz, then a string of Masters.. lara doesn't even remember. But it was attraction the first time lara saw Him in S&S.

<cilla> Master Tazzz mmm :)

<lara{W}> Master Tazzz was lara's first gorean Master but then He met talena and that was all she wrote, but that's okay lara had already fallen for Master Cavalier.

* cilla grins..lara, tell me about when you met.. how did you arrange it.. was it a "Gorean" meeting or more.. vanilla.. were you nervous?

 <lara{W}> Well he came from California so lara could stay close to her kids and she jumped his bones the minute He walked through the door.

* cilla laughs.. literally?

 <lara{W}> Yes really :)

<cilla> lara.. you said Master Cavalier was "tough" online. What did you mean?

<lara{W}> Oh yes big time. He had a rep for using the whip alot but lara wanted that because she had just come away from a r/l Dom/sub relationship. What lara was trying to say is when Master Cavalier came here, it was permanent we never had a visit then another.

<cilla> Did He whip you that first meeting?

 <lara{W}> No lara doesn’t think so. lara does remember the first time he whipped her for punishment though.

* cilla listens..

 <lara{W}> lara had to walk home from work that night and she was so tired. she had his walkman with her. When lara walked in the house she threw it down and broke His headphones. He calmly picked them up, sent her to bed. The next day He whipped lara with his belt. It hurt my heart.. lara was so embarrassed for acting like a spoiled princess. lara has to say in a year He has never whipped her again in punishment.

<cilla> Is that how Master usually punishes you lara, or does he use other techniques too?

 <lara{W}> No, He doesn’t whip me because He knows lara enjoys it especially since we've been able to buy real toys. He withholds sex from me.

 * cilla hates that.. withholding sex punishment :( What sort of toys lara?

 <lara{W}> Paddles, 3 different whips a crop. He freaked out when He put a big bruise on my breast last month... hey lara loved it.. but cilla, lara loves spoiling him doing the cooking, cleaning stuff like that. He doesn't do the whip or paddle out of punishment any more because He knows lara likes it. What He does is ignore me or withhold his affections. That's been the hardest thing for lara not to be... the one to start the sex thing.

<cilla> The bruise on your breast?

<lara{W}> Oh that was for lara's birthday. lara guesses she should say it's used for a reward now, maybe that will make more sense.

<cilla> lara, you stated Master doesn't whip you because you like it. In the Gorean community, cilla understood that if a girl likes pain.. she is likely more submissive than Gorean slave, since physical punishment to Gorean slaves, means our Masters displeasure.. cilla wonders if you agree with that?

 <lara{W}> No cilla, lara doesn’t agree, because each person's submission is personal, you have play pain and then there's punishment pain, to me they are completely different. How can someone say who's Gorean and who's not? lara never understood that. It's like people who play at being a warrior, there are a few that are, but they are a minority.

<cilla> Can you describe a typical 24 hour period with you and Master Cavalier, lara?

<lara{W}> Well we get up early and lara has to say the only thing He insists on lara doing is making Him coffee and bringing it to Him.

 * cilla listens..

 <lara{W}> We are both looking for work so we kind of go separate ways during the day but soon He will be working at the plant so He will be gone from 6am till 6pm. lara cooks Him supper, He always praises me.

 <cilla> nice :)

 <lara{W}> cilla, that is so nice cause before lara's ex never did that. It makes lara want to do it even more.. and yes lara spoils Him rotten... bringing Him his plate first... Then we usually go for a walk and then watch a little TV. He lets lara hold his hand. Sometimes we sit on the front steps and just talk, lara tends to ramble on if you can't tell by now. He just sits and smiles, but you know He makes me laugh.

* cilla grins.. That is so important lara.. Does Master Cavalier make all final decisions? Does he seek your thoughts first, sister?

<lara{W}> He can't stand when He comes and asks me what lara's wants and she says it's up to Him. He wants me to have a say in stuff but he makes the final decisions. Its really eerie but He is usually right 99% of the time.

<cilla> Sign of a Master perhaps <g> What about your children lara.. Did he accept them immediately?

 <lara{W}> The kids are with lara's ex now. My twin boy is autistic so it's been rough but lara thinks he's won Cavs heart.. my twin daughter is with her grandmother so she doesn't come around.

 <cilla> Why aren’t your kids with you lara?

 <lara{W}> Well at this time my ex is more able to take care of them financially..lara lost custody in '90 over bogus child abuse charges..the court gave them to my ex.

 <cilla> Oh lara.. cilla is sorry to hear that :(

 <lara{W}> lara is not sure cilla, they are half grown so they don't need their mom as much.

 <cilla> How old are they?

 <lara{W}> Except for Billy he's here now :) 17, 13 and 13.

<cilla> Is Master Cavalier your Master, lara?

<lara{W}> yes cilla

 <cilla> Do you ever call Him, Master?

<lara{W}> You know this is silly sounding but when i knelt and kissed his feet for the first time i can't tell you how good it felt. When we are alone.. yes lara does but any other time lara calls him Sir.

 <cilla> ok.. now cilla is confused.. is He a Gorean Master or a Dom?

 <lara{W}> When lara is listening to him with Billy she can't understand how she got so lucky. No, it's more of a social thing he is my Master but as much as she would like to shout it to the world.. she can't.

 cilla> Do you socialize with other Goreans or D/s couples lara?

<lara{W}> No, we don't... We live in a town maybe 75,000... it's too funny the only toy store in lake charles is owned by lara's ex husbands' girl friends sister.

 <cilla> Was your ex in the lifestyle, lara?

 <lara{W}> He was just a man.. not saying He wasn't Dominant, lara tried to share with him her needs but he thought she was insane.. He and Cav did the same thing in the army. What can i say lara is a military slut! Hey lara was becoming a little bit of a domme when her ex was sent off in desert storm... was very hard to have a man back in the house after six months.

* cilla laughs .. you were? cilla imagines lara in black leather, cracking a whip :) .... cilla suddenly remembers she started off as a FW and had a slave... and falls silent....

 <lara{W}> Hey lara learnt how to cut the grass, change the oil, fix the dryer it took her a while not to override him with the kids. Oh lara had a slave... once my Dom wanted me to see the two sides. lara would get so embarrassed when he would come kneel at her feet online, it didn't last for very long. lara was a FW for about 2 hours at the end of 96. Master Kandor freed me, lara went into a tavern and almost asked to serve. You wanted the slave to dominate you didn’t you?

 <cilla> errrr yes :)

<cilla> lara.. you are Owned by Master Cavalier.. and yet you are collared to Master Wolf.. can you explain this? Is it not confusing to be Owned by two different Masters?

 <lara{W}> Since we can't be on the computer at the same time He allowed lara to have another Master, but he made it very plain that my choice was to meet with His approval and they couldn't live in the United States. Master Wolfe is my gorean fantasy.. He doesn't control lara's real life... Master Wolfe is a wonderful person and lara loves him but there is no chance for real life. Master Cav has a slave online, her name is twilite she may come visit... lara loves her like a real sister.

<cilla> cilla has noticed you don’t like serving paga.. can she ask why? You even go out of your way to avoid serving :)

 <lara{W}> oh lara used to serve her ass off when she first got to Gor. Master Tazzz made her, but for some reason since Cav has been here she has lost her heart for it.

<cilla> It was in Larl's_Lair lara.. do you remember?

 <lara{W}> what did lara say?

<cilla> cilla msg'd you.. asked you why you were being such a lazy slut and not offering to serve :) ... cilla begins to laugh... you said.. if you had to serve describing your body.. it would not be a pretty sight..

 <lara{W}> Especially with Master Tazzz.. He's seen lara in real life He knows she is lying about a flat stomach.

<cilla> Can you show cilla a serve that would be "honest", in your eyes?

 * cilla grins at lara..

 * lara{W} rises her floppy tits swing and almost hit her in the face... she sways her hips just to let the guys know she's female cause she has no curves.

 <lara{W}> roflmaO

 * cilla giggles..

 <lara{W}> I'm silly!

<cilla> naaaa ...<cilla hugs you> you are real honey.. that's the reason we love you. What does Master Cavalier think?

 <lara{W}> He says lara is beautiful in His eyes.

 <cilla> lara any fears concerning being Your Masters slave?

 <lara{W}> Yes ...that lara won't be good enough for Him.. but He is my soul mate...He will tell me when lara messes up.

 <cilla> Since Master Cavalier came into your life, would you say there have been substantial changes?

 <lara{W}> He's 33 and lara is 39 .. He's been out on his own since he was 17. Before lara came to know this lifestyle she was a total slut, the only difference between her and a whore was she didn't get paid. No self esteem at all.. but since then she has settled down a whole hell of alot. It started with my first real Dom but Master Cav has made it stay if that makes any sense. If it wasn’t for Master Cav lara would have gone back to her ex for just the security of it.

<cilla> Would you recommend this lifestyle to other girls?

 <lara{W}> If it's truly what they want, yes.. lara would but it has to be the right person and you know that when you meet them..lara did anyway, there has to be love cilla.

 <cilla> What qualities do a Master and slave need, in order to make it work, lara?

 <lara{W}> The Master has to be strong.. to lara the worst thing a slave can do is manipulate a Master. Oh, but that's hard not to do, we learn that from the cradle, i think.

<cilla> Good point lara :)

 <lara{W}> lara asked Him to promise to tell her when she does, because she will manipulate with out even realizing it.

<cilla> lara are you a good slave?

<lara{W}> lara is still growing cilla.. realizing stuff ...so is Master .. lara tries to be, cilla.

 <cilla> it sounds like you have a Master who will keep you going, hon :)

 <lara{W}> lara really does cilla... i'm so damn lucky. I was wishing so hard for someone.. i couldn't believe Master loved me He could have had anyone.

<cilla> lara, you *are* "anyone" :))

 <lara{W}> thank you cilla for asking me to do this.

 <cilla> lara.. thank you for this interview <hug>.. and thank you, Master Cavalier :))

 It takes alot of courage to publically share ones fears, uncertainties and often.. one's past. Living this lifestyle is not easy... yet both lara and pet also speak to their personal growth and positive changes that have occurred since moving in with their Masters, in spite of what could be described as drastic compromises. Do you have a similar experience to share? Please contact cilla to be interviewed :)) Also, these interviews are for all of us, if you have questions you would like cilla to be asking, please email them to her at [email protected]. Thank you :)