Gorean Philosophy

Question::   In Your opinion, how does the gorean philosophy, fit in with the society of Earth 1998?

Hawke::   Not very easily. It is difficult to make it fit. It is even difficult to make it fit in the BDSM community, as they think we live in a fantasy world... As I said ealier.. I am not Gorean, nor do I claim to be anymore. I am a Master of Earth who lives the Gorean codes as best as he can.

The Man

Question::   It is understood that Master is new to this way of lifestyle is this correct?

Hawke::   somewhat new.. yes. I have lived IRC for more than two years... but, my slave has come to live with me since August. That is why much of this is so fresh... :)

Question::   In Your opinion, what is the difference between a "real life" gorean and an online one?

Hawke::   It comes down to a matter of actions... when you are online, things are easier to make and do than when you are in real life. For instance: If you whip a girl online, would you *actually* do the same action in real life. This will relate to any other activity that we do day to day in a tavern or tower on IRC Gor.. how much of it *actually* would take place in real life? At the end of the day, you have another human being that you have to look in they eyes of. To me, when I look into her eyes, I have to be sure I have done as I should. For I am as responsible for her as I am for myself.

Question::   How do You personally measure Your success as a Gorean?

Hawke::   Well.. let me toss a wrench into your question. I no longer declare myself as a Gorean. I am a Master. There is no Gor. There is, however, Gorean Philosophy. I am a Master of Earth, who has read the books written by John Norman, and follow the Gorean codes as much as I can in my daily life. Now.. to answer your question with that said.... :) I pretty much answered it in my first responce. At the end of the day, I have to be sure that not only have I kept in check the realities of my own life.. but that of my girl as well... The old saying of "Master yourself first" is a credo I live by daily. For, if I cannot keep my own life in check.. how can I expect to keep hers? I measure it by knowing the answers to those questions when I lay my head down to sleep at night.

Question::   If You were a gorean animal, what would You be? (Larl, sleen, tarn, etc) ..Explain why.

* Hawke looks at his name...

* Hawke grins...

Hawke::   A Tarn.. The reason I chose Hawke as a nick, is because it is one of my spirit animals. The Hawk flies with power, seeing all. He is also known as a messenger to the heavens.. his cry will bring you out of times when your mind, heart and soul are blurred... he will clear your vision when it is cloudy... I feel much the same thing about Tarns.... Plus.. I have always fancied, that if I came back to Earth as an animal.. it would be the Hawk. :)

Question::   Does BDSM have a place in Your life?

Hawke::   as a basis.. yes. BDSM provides me a small system of interaction with somewhat like-minded people. The BDSM community where I live, has a newer Male-dom/fem-sub group starting... This did not begin until I and my slave had begun to venture out into the community... We have set an example for many... There are many around us who are switches... and many who do this just a weekend sport... they now see a prime example of two people committed to our kind of relationship... so, yes BDSM has a place in my life... without it, I probably never would have tripped upon the planet and philosophy of Gor..... but, the people of BDSM and D/s still have a system of support and expression that we still participate in, mostly just by providing our presence...

Question::   What aspects of BDSM do You invoke into the Gorean Lifestyle?

Hawke::   The aspect of "community" and "support" for like minded folk. Most other aspects of BDSM have little place in our life. We do "play" occasionally, but, when we are not, we are still Master/slave the rest of the time. We dont take "breaks" from our life.. our commitment. We do not switch roles. Have I tied my slave down while I use her? If you call that bondage.. then yes. :) Do I deny her certain things as a punishment? yes... Do I discipline her? Most definatly yes. the only costumes I would say that come into play are her silks and collar (oftentime cuffs as well) but, I would hardly call it "costume play" for it is standard dress for her. Our life is part of BDSM only in the apsects of "Community" and "Support" as indicated above. All else is what we do in our lives... It doesnt fall into a category of some BDSM D/s group.

Question::   In Your opinion, does BDSM play a major or minor role in the gorean lifestyle?

* Hawke thinks...

Hawke::   I thought I already answered that... but, perhaps I have not.. :) From reading my words.. you may think it plays a small part for me... but, in reality, it plays a somewhat important part. The two aspects of "Community" and "Support" are very important to me. No one person has all the answers. Much can be learned from the BDSM and D/s community.. at least the one I am in... so, when needed, there is a community to turn to when necessary. :) I will also point out, that "Community" and "Support" are difficult to find on IRC Gor.

Miscellaneous

"More than one Master, I suspect, has been enslaved by the beauty who kneels before Him. It is one of the excruciating delights of the Mastery to expose oneself fully to, yet skirt, the dangers of the girls beauty, to keep oneself strong, to draw the absolute fullness of pleasure from her, and to resist her wiles, to get everything from her, and yet keep her on her knee's completely." - SlaveGirl of Gor ..pg 36

Question::   Your opinion of the passages meaning?

Hawke::   females are difficult beings... quite complicated even if a slave. To keep a woman *engaged* in any relationship.. you have to stay one step ahead... and always wanting that brass ring... It is always best to keep that ring just out of reach.. so she will always be reaching... in the case of my girl... it is the gold rings... ::winks:: :)

"<XXX-jira> got something for ya, for all that glorious crap you stirred and then kicked me over. * XXX-jira raises her little slavey fist...upraising the middle slender digit.....flipping the 'tarn' at XXXXXXX*"

Question::   What is Your opinion of a slave who speaks and acts as such to a FreeMan?

* Hawke chuckles...

Hawke::   that she fights her belly... All girls I have meet.. slave and free alike, have at some time, been in touch with their belly.. Somewhere, somehow. Our culture on Earth subsidises her actions.. Since we do not support this, perhaps her Master does not keep her in her belly enough....

Real Life Issues

Question::   For many, to bring the Gorean Philosophy into their Earthly lives: the cost and sacrifices are great: What has been Your greatest sacrifice to date?

Hawke::   I dont really think of many sacrifices... but, there have been *adjustments* made to many of my day-to-day things. When you dictate the life path for two people; especially when you are directing a girl to find her belly; there is no sacrifice in that. It is the road to beauty itself. Adjustments I have made... sacrifices I have not.

Question::   What was the hardest thing to overcome when You took Your beliefs into Real Life?

Hawke::   Thinking I had all the answers. :) I know now that I do not. The answers some in the journey. And the journey is LONG.... :)

Question::   You currently have a real life slave, what was the hardest thing for You to adjust to?

Hawke::   Shopping for two :) ::winks:: Laundry for two :)

*Hawke chuckles...

Actually, that isnt too far from the truth. Having another person to look out for.. thinking of yourself as two people, rather than one.. is a notion I have not had to think for a long time. She is a good girl, and assimilates into my life quite nicely.. so, it was a small adjustment. But, one that we make again every once in a while.

Question::   Do You believe in "slave rape" in real life?

Hawke::   No.

Question::   Would You encourage bi-sexuality for Your slave?

Hawke::   If it was something that interested her, I would. It is nothing I care about. Sexuality ( I prefer to call it sensuality) comes in many forms. Used properly, it can help to further a girl in her belly. If it was something that would step her along, then I would provide her some outlet for it. "Encourage?" No. "Support?" Yes.

Question::   How often per month would You say Your served food/drink in the "atypical" gorean manner?

Hawke::   Daily. My girl serves me properly, or I do not eat. :) and, to those who have seen me, I eat much. :) Does she spead her lips and moisten all edges of the plate or cup with her heat.. ? No. But, in her heart, does she serve her Master to be pleasing? :) Yes.

Question::   How much online activity is actually used by You, in Your household? (ie: slave positions, serving, kneeling, etc)

Hawke::   As it is written in the books? Very little. I put my girl into positions that are pleasing to me. I have her serve how it is pleasing to me. She has limitiation on her kneeling, so we adjust that for her as well... she is a slave.. and she is trained to do so at my pleasure.

Question::   Does Master intend to "marry" His slave?

Hawke::   No.   She will wear my collar. Nothing else. :)

Question::   Do You feel the institution of marriage to be a help or hinderance between a Master and slave in a relationship? (save for those previously married before entering the lifestyle)

Hawke::   In my HUMBLE opinion; a marriage has nothing to do with a Master/slave relationship. If a husband and wife enter into a Master/slave relationship, it is up to them to figure out how the two fit. To me, it would be neither a help or hinderence.. since they have nothing to do with each other. :)

Question::   In regards to "contracts" do You believe they have a place in the gorean lifestyle?

* Hawke smiles..

Hawke::   No. Not in the sense that my BDSM friends think of them. I know my girl. I know what works, and I know what doesnt work. So, my training is cultivated in that light. When I think she needs to get passed a particular obstacle, I will instruct her that this particular lesson is designed for her to get over whatever it is I think is blocking her. She trusts me, and therefore no contract is needed. Same goes for safewords. None are needed because I know my girl well enough to do what will benefit us both. And, she knows I have the big picture in mind and will keep her safe and sound. I will not damage my property. She knows this. That is part of her gift to me, is her trust. The first part of her submission, is her trust. The first part of my being a Master, is holding that trust in the palm of my hand, gripping it tightly, and using it a tool to guide her. At this stage in her progress, misuse of that tool can be destructive. Used properly, it can build the sturdiest structure ever built.... (making an analogy, of course.. ) :)

Question::   Does Your slave work outside the home?

Hawke::   Yes.   We work in the same office. :)   She moved to be at my side, and she is 24 hours a day.

Question::   Is part of her income set aside for her, in case she should ask to be released, or You release her?

Hawke::   At the present time, No. She made the move here on her own. A slave will survive if she has to. Part of what makes a girl strong enough to give up all she has, is having known what it is like to have it.. having had the independance and then give it up.. and knowing that if she is to make another change affecting my life, she will do so on her own. It means that she knows fully what she does. And accepts the consequences of it. I am quite a benevolent person. If that time ever came, she would be provided for.

* Hawke smiles..

I still care for her as a human being.

Question::   Does Your slave's entire income go to the household budget?

Hawke::   Both of ours does. What is left over is saved.

Question::   The amount that is saved, is that a joint acct?

Hawke::   At present, No. It is my account. She does, however have her own account. :) She has access to all I have.. and I to hers. We share all. There is no need to keep seperate. Or, to legally *join* our money into one account. Legalities such as those, in my mind, are to keep the dishonorable honorable.

Question::   In Your opinion, whose responsibility is it to provide life insurance, health insurance, etc?

Hawke::   It is the Master's place to take care of his property. And since those costs can be high, his employment should be good enough to cover such things. If both can obtain it through their workplace.. then the better plan wins :) Ask "Who's pays best for the $$ spent?" Then decide.

Question::   In Your opinion, should a Master get involved in His real life slave's financial matters? (ie: savings accts, retirement funds, expenses)

Hawke::   A Master should have a say in all aspects of his slave's life. For her life *is* his life.

Question::   Does Master intend on having children?

Hawke::   Yes. Many, hopefully... :) .. well, not *many*... 2 or 3 actually.. :) the Tim Allen grunts in my head took over for a moment... :) now.. I'm back.. :)

* lassy laughs

* Hawke winks

Question::   Do You foresee taking any other slaves into Your home, in the near or distant future?

Hawke::   At this time, No.

Question::   What advice would You give to anyone considering moving from online to RL ?

Hawke::   Communication is the key. Dont hold so tightly to what you *think* it is to be a Master... and let the relationship grow at your guidance. Dont be afraid to give in.. as long as it is wise to do so. So many Men are afraid of being "topped" by thier slave, that they will hold to thier way of thinking so tightly, as to think they are commanding thier women. But, in reality, what they are doing is fearing that they are being topped, and the Men around them will think less of them. My advice is, look at your path for your life.. look at your girls' path for her life.. and figure out how those paths fit side by side.... Dont be afraid to acquiesce.. Dont be afraid to *not* know all the answers.. Be secure that your path will always be there... just be wise about how to walk it.