by David Ian Griffith, January, 1996
Insanity is really the only way to describe the music of Mr. Bungle (which is
often referred to as Faith No More vocalist Mike Patton's "other band").
Their '91 show was the best show of my life, so naturally I was highly
anticipating their return here in the 9-nickel. Smack dab in the middle of
their month-long tour, guitarist Trey Spruance was kind enough to give up
this interview. Now, without further ado, here is more than you ever wanted
to know about Bungle...
In the liner notes of your new record, Disco Volante, it says that the
album was recorded at Mill's Women's College.
So this guy wasn't with you on the last tour?
You guys got him! He's here with Mr. Bungle.
New York saxophonist John Zorn produced your first LP. Do you still work
with him?
Did he play on MR. BUNGLE at all?
I wanted to ask you about the work you did on Faith No More's latest LP,
because I like them, but I was surprised to hear that you were working with
them. What was it like playing in a straightforward rock band?
When we talked to Faith No More a few months back, I got the impression
that they thought the guitar should be more in the background and more
textural...
I didn't get the impression that you were exactly cutting loose on that
album.
So do you feel that that album was a failure?
Getting back to Bungle, DISCO VOLANTE reflects a broader scope of
influences than did your first album. What sorts of music have influenced
you?
I bet they're on LATCHO DROM (a great compilation of gypsy music)
I love that stuff. It's that crazy cartoon music-- it's so happy...
Well, what I want to know is how you guys found out about all this stuff
in Eureka, California?
Do you feel support from Warner Brothers for what you guys are doing?
Was Mr. Bungle signed to Warner before Mike Patton joined up with Faith
No More?
Well, there's no reason to. You guys are legit. It's not like you're some
punk-ass band playing shitty music.
Yeah, we recorded part of it there. We did some remote recording there,
some piano, and most of the live percussion. Our guest percussionist on this
tour is a teacher there.
No, he just played on this record, he played the tabla and the
xylophones. He's an incredible mallet player. I could sit here and brag about
him a lot, because he's a world renowned percussionist who specializes in
20th Century music. He composes sonatas, and he's a sought after
percussionist, but for some reason...
He's on sabbatical to go on tour with Mr. Bungle! (Laughter)
Yeah, when we were in New York I did a little recording with him that
turned out pretty good.
He did a solo on "Love Is A Fist." Most of the music was recorded before
he got there; he just helped us mix it.
Well, I've played in straightforward kinds of things before, but never
anything where people's livelihoods depended on it. Musically, the hardest
thing was just relating to their vision, because the guitar parts are cake--
they're easy. I used to listed to old FNM and I wanted to hear the guitar do
certain things and possibly strengthen the band, but they weren't really
interested.
And I'm into that. I think it's a great way to make music, but the record
I made with them IS a guitar-driven album, so there was some confusion on
their side of it as to what the role of the guitar really was.
Not at all. (Sarcastically) Just doin' my job. Doing what I was hired to
do.
If it is, it would be in the sequencing. I think that the last song
("Just A Man") on the record was one of the best songs they've ever done, and
there were a couple of other songs near the end of the album that were really
good. I would say that the weakness of that record was the emphasis on the
more mediocre music.
Well, within the band, the interests have diversified; Trevor (Bassist)
has gotten further into jazz, I've gotten into movie soundtracks from
1955-75-- Italian movie soundtracks especially. Actually, I've been getting
into the music of Romania-- It's really amazing. There's a couple of gypsy
ensembles there that will blow your mind.
One of 'em is.
But it's nightmarish, too. That's what's so amazing about Romanian music;
it's such a fucked-up situation there, both politically and economically,
that happiness is a matter of this manic energy that gets so exalted that it
takes on this nightmarish quality. On the other side of the coin, there's
this avant-garde music from Romania by a group called the Hyperian Ensemble,
which was founded by Iancu Dumitrescue. It's a new phase of 20th Century
music that has to do with the recording processes and electro-acoustic
sounds. They're not tape-manipulated, they're actual performances, but it's
just the most powerful, thundering, frightening fucking music on the face of
the planet. It makes anything else seem like ants. It's so unbelievable
because of the way it's recorded-- it's all these subtones, this incredible
violence, this incredibly cold and doomish feel, but eternally powerful. It's
transcendental new age music that explodes your fucking head apart. Then
there's Music Konkrette, which is electronic tape recordings of acoustic
sounds which are then spliced and put together. The stuff from Finland and
Sweden is usually the shit.
University libraries are a pretty goo resource. It's where I learned
everything. We were living way up in the woods, and moving to San Francisco,
which is a little more of an information center, provided an opportunity to
explore things a little more in depth. We had a pretty good introduction
there at the University-- it lit a fire under all of our asses.
No, they just write us the standard check. They don't give a shit what we
do, which is great.
Ah, no. It happened as a result of Faith No More's popularity and us
being Mike Patton's "other band," but I don't feel particularly weird about
that.
No, indeed.