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1. NUMBER OF PEOPLE: 30.
2. NUMBER OF CHAIRS: 80.
3. Type of person: Intuitives, feeling types.
4. Socio-Economic Status: Low.
5. Amount of kids: 8.
6. Ages of people: 10yo- 50yo.
7. 50% are men.
8. Weekly offering published: One lady in Toowoomba voluntarily gave $35,000.
She received a healing which saved her life and much pain. Soon after, this
church was on the Toowoomba TV Local News.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
***10. Any other interesting information: This church
have had Sunday morning meetings off and on from 2001. However, each Thursday
night at the corner of Hume and Perth Sts the Gold Coast people used to come
up, as many as 30 people with a different preacher. They regularly had a large
white tent in Queens Pk for many days at a time until the end of 2002. This
tent was last seen at the Whitsundays Island February 2003. This movement believes
absolutely in the Toronto Blessing. (See FAQ's.) This is the church to go to
if you believe in healing and want a massive healing in your body and/or you
believe in personal spiritual predictions (prophecy) and you want a prophecy
or spiritual prediction over your personal life in direction from a church leader.
11. TIME THERE AND DATE OF VISIT: Some 30 times over 6 months in 2001.
12. Length of service: Allow 1.5 - 2.5 hours.
13. This and other service times: Thursdays 7pm.
*14. Preacher: Ps Peter Willis came from the church on the Gold Coast above
the Bus depot - see Gold Coast churches. Peter also founded the famous Surfers
Paradise Christian Coffee Shop right on Cavill Avenue.
15. Feeling of building: Once you understand how the meetings all work, then
it is highly enjoyable.
**16. Estimate style of belief: They believe you can be healed from incurable
diseases, God can supply any financial need or desire you have, God can speak
through the Pastors son for example and he can give quite accurate prophecies
about your current spiritual condition in a non - confronting way with a glimpse
to which direction you might best be headed spiritually. For example "I
see a clock going backwards." Or "I see a window pane with a crack."
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Very casual to Casual.
18. How to get there: Travel along Hume St till Perth St south of James St.
*19. ACCEPTANCE IN CHURCH AS A VISITOR: Highly accepting
of visitors, even non - Christians are encouraged to come in for healing.
20. People who talked to me after the service: Almost everyone are friendly.
21. Length of time they talked: 1 min - 20 mins.
22. How soon do visitors get talked to after service?: Good.
23. HOW MUCH CHURCH IS OPEN TO WIDER CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY: They don't see themselves
as "getting into church structure". They are only about people coming
from all other churches for healing, prophecy and Toronto Blessing preaching.
**24. Unusual things about worship: The worst thing that could happen
is the preacher might publicly point you out and say "Would you like a
prophecy over what God has told me about you for your own spiritual benefit?"
This is very rare. This is a compliment. Most Christians greatly anticipate
these encouraging words. It should not be feared. It's often possible to get
a tape of this if you give them your name and a description of the prophecy
to the sound desk. If not, try to write the words down straight away.
*25. EMPHASIS OF MINISTRY: To have an outrageous time in God while doing
God's work! They really believe this.
26. Famous business people: -.
27. Famous people: -.
*28. KNOWABLE SONGS: Highly knowable songs. All their chorus's are done to
a dance mix! Young and the young at heart love it. They do NOT have live musicians.
They only play pre-recorded artists Compact Disk's. They computer mix the CD's
to worship.
29. Quality of sound system/ loudness: Good.
*30. Quality of preaching generally: Past preachers included Clarke Taylor,
Eddie Cole, and any "evangelist" who is right into the Toronto Blessing.
31. Meaningfulness/ depth of preaching: There are often great insights.
32. Enjoyment/ lightness of preaching: It's all very light preaching, easy going.
33. Impact/ deepness/ enjoyment of worship: Worship is highly enjoyable "once
you enter in." Don't give up after one service, it takes a few meetings
to get used to this new style of worship, even 3 months. Not greatly recommended
for pure blue collar worker types as it's very "feeling" and "intuition"
based. The worship is a significant part of the meeting. Church goers report
high satisfaction.
34. Amount of home groups: -.
35. How to access home groups: -.
36. Friendliness of home groups: -.
37. Intention to build: None.
38. Estimate percentage church owned / rented?: Rented hall.
39. Estimate age of building: 60yo.
40. Dowdiness of building outside: Quite.
41. Inside?: Quite.
*42. Have sister churches where? JTOM started in the Gold Coast where they
have Sunday morning meetings at a huge night club. Then from about 1998 to present
they started meetings at Mt Gravatt Showgrounds in a 30 metre/ yard x 20 metre/
yard tin new show shed Fridays 7pm every week. Then in about 1999 one of their
parishioners shifted his business to Warwick so the church could start meetings
there but this didn't work so then both parties of church and individuals then
came to Toowoomba instead. Where the meetings blossomed from 2000 to present.
Then in about 2001 they started an outreach to Caboolture where they have meetings
weekly. So the extent of their meetings are only at these 4 suburbs Gold Coast,
Brisbane, Toowoomba, Caboolture. In 2004 the leaders of the Toowoomba church
resigned from JTOM as bills were not getting paid or similar reason. Hence the
name change to "TOOWOOMBA RIVER FELLOWSHIP." Ps Peter Willis's wife
is Naomi. Her parents are Pastors and in 2004 they have been travelling to Toowoomba
from the Gold Coast every 3 weeks. The numbers dwindled from 30 down to 6 until
the whole church closed in about mid 2004 to early 2005.
43. Sunday School availability: No. Kids love this church and freely enter in,
in all areas. Even the preaching is not boring to them. Once when they, JTOM,
were having a stand at the Gold Coast New Age festival, firemen stormed the
building and kept circling the JTOM stand as the fire alarms went off in that
close vicinity.
44. Ages availability: All ages of kids seems to enjoy church.
45. % kids attend: About 90% of kids ages 4 and above enter into the church
worship etc..
46. Noise of kids at back: Very little disturbance.
47. Where is bible college? -.
48. Where do kids school? -.
49. How many missionaries do they support: Probably none.
50. What cost? -.
51. What is average they give to missions: -.
52. What is average they give to local poor? -.
53. International poor? -.
54. Other emphasis on giving: -.
55. Per head total giving: -.
56. Extent of other church programs: They seem to only do above.
57. Pastor receive stipend? Yes.
58. How much? -.
59. Qualifications of Pastor: -.
60. Estimated of parishioners complaints: There isn't much flack from the church
people over the Toronto Blessing issue as it started out that way.
61. Estimated ability to resolve parishioners complaints: Little.
1. NUMBER OF PEOPLE: 8.
2. NUMBER OF CHAIRS: 40.
3. Type of person: Intuitives, feeling types.
4. Socio-Economic Status: -.
5. Amount of kids: 4.
6. Ages of people: 10yo- 50yo.
7. 50% are men.
8. Weekly offering published:
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
10. Any other interesting information: This church had Sunday morning meetings
in Toowoomba until these meetings closed in 2001 and then they re-opened in
2003.
11. TIME THERE AND DATE OF VISIT: 4/ 2003. Some 30 times over 6 months in 2001.
12. Length of service: Allow 1.5 - 2 hours.
13. This and other service times: Sundays 9.30am; Thursdays 7pm.
14. Preacher: Mainly lay led.
15. Feeling of building: Building is too old and dark.
16. Estimate style of belief: Same.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Very casual to Casual.
18. How to get there: Travel along Hume St till Perth St south of James St.
PEOPLE OFTEN ASK "WHO IS LIBERTY COMMUNITY CHURCH?" as they are often on the Light Radio as sponsors.
1. NUMBER OF PEOPLE: 30.
2. NUMBER OF CHAIRS: 50.
3. Type of person: Evangelical Christians. Often self -employed (food, bookkeeping,
rural businesses).
4. Socio-Economic Status: Medium to high.
5. Amount of kids: 1/3 are children.
6. Ages of people: 2yo - 60yo.
7. 50% are men.
8. Weekly offering published: -.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
10. Any other interesting information: .
11. TIME THERE AND DATE OF VISIT: 6 times over 18 months 2000- 2001.
12. Length of service: Allow 1.5hr - 3hours if going to their lunch.
13. This and other service times: 9am. Sometimes. I.E. once a month, they had
"John 10: 10 nights" where it was a youth/ drama/ food Sunday night.
*14. Preacher: Denis Lennox. (Former Superintendent of the whole Toowoomba
Base Hospital, now working in Qld Rural Health and was on the Queensland news
in June 2005 for giving an account as a witness for a health inquest in court.
Basically, Denis had reported poor findings when he was at the Toowoomba Base
Hospital, no one listened, he was shafted to rural health, roughly ten years
later the Dr Death from Bundaberg fall out happened. Only then did people listen
to Denis. Denis Lennox IS not just an administrator but is definitely a medical Doctor as well. )
15. Feeling of building: They were in Margaret St at a Masonic Lodge where they
would cover all the Masonic wooden signs but it is just an old wooden hall with
metal chairs. They rent from Seventh Day Adventists as of late 2003 in a nicer
hall.
*16. Estimate style of belief: The preacher comes from a Brethren background
but they staunchly believe they are not Brethren per se. Almost all the parishioners
come from an evangelical background including Baptist, Church of Christ and
Charismatic churches. They would not encourage nor be opposed to spiritual gifts.
"Association of Christians in Action" is an incorporated body of Liberty Community
Church. Part of their brochure says "Women actively participate in a way
that confirms your choice to grant headship to men in public worship...".
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Pretty casual.
18. How to get there: Travel towards
the city along Hume St and you'll see the Seventh Day Adventist church opposite
Queens Park. A sandwhich board has a Liberty sign posted.
19. ACCEPTANCE IN CHURCH AS A VISITOR: Very well accepted as
a visitor.
20. People who talked to me after the service: Many do.
21. Length of time they talked: 1m- 7mins.
22. How soon do visitors get talked to after service?: Pretty soon.
*23. HOW MUCH CHURCH IS OPEN TO WIDER CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY: They are open
to working with the Christian community.
24. Unusual things about worship: Nothing.
25. EMPHASIS OF MINISTRY: They like doing Religious Instruction in schools.
26. Famous business people: -.
27. Famous people: -.
28. KNOWABLE SONGS: They do have almost all knowable songs.
29. Quality of sound system/ loudness: Average.
30. Quality of preaching generally: OK.
31. Meaningfulness/ depth of preaching: OK.
32. Enjoyment/ lightness of preaching: OK.
33. Impact/ deepness/ enjoyment of worship: Average.
34. Amount of home groups: Yes, there are about 3 home groups and all are welcome
to attend, just ask.
35. How to access home groups: Ask Dennis Lennox for a few phone numbers and
an introduction.
36. Friendliness of home groups: Really friendly.
37. Intention to build: They are looking to buy a church.
38. Estimate percentage church owned / rented?: Rented.
39. Estimate age of building: 80 years.
40. Dowdiness of building outside: A bit dowdy.
41. Inside?: A bit dowdy.
42. Have sister churches where? They do not seem to.
43. Sunday School availability: Quite likely.
44. Ages availability: -.
45. % kids attend: -.
46. Noise of kids at back: OK.
47. Where is bible college? None.
48. Where do kids school? -.
49. How many missionaries do they support: -.
50. What cost? -.
51. What is average they give to missions: -.
52. What is average they give to local poor? -.
53. International poor? -.
54. Other emphasis on giving: -.
55. Per head total giving: -.
56. Extent of other church programs: A group volunteers as a choir for cross
denominational church things like "Christmas The Full Story."
57. Pastor receive stipend? No.
58. How much? Zero.
59. Qualifications of Pastor: .
60. Estimated of parishioners complaints. There was a previous leader or elder
who said that we were basically to follow Paul's teachings only from now on.
This didn't go over well, see Grace Fellowship, which is the split off.
61. Estimated ability to resolve parishioners complaints: Quite good.
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