My take was that it was a serious and affecting piece of dualist literature. I think the constant indexing of clothing, food and lifestyle are so completely meant to be contrasted with his affection for torture and murder - and are so completely supposed to sound as unaffected as the torture and murder sequences - - that they come off as brilliant. I also like the fact that it's uttery repulsive in the way it makes it very, very clear that the murder is simply an extension of his high-living, that he has so much control over his own life, he feels the need to add more to it (control is like power, you thirst for it - you get it, you want more and more) - like an extensionon your house. And the beautiful thing is that it's a vicious cycle - he needs more power, but it gradually destroys him from the inside. It's really something to watch it happen to a first person narrator, in particular - one who recognizes it subliminally, but can't quite come right out and say to the audience : "I have a problem that will end up killing me".
And I loved the way it made me feel. Again, duality. I alternately (like you said) loved and hated myself while I was reading the book. I hated myself because I began to explore my own superiority complexes and I loved myself because, hey - let's be honest - the book has an effect on us and we feel somewhat, hmmm, we feel - - like we're in charge and self-assured and, again, like you said : self obsessed. I like being self-obsessed. At least I know plenty about my obsession.
"Can't wait to see the movie although the book is far from a classic...Christian Bale should make an interesting Pat Bateman, and Chloe Sevigny is in it. Also Jared Leto and Reese Witherspoon...it comes out April 14, and I'll be there opening night. If the film is half as violent as the book, the MPAA should have a field day."
Gear magazine had Bret Easton Ellis write a review
of the film. It will be nothing like the book. The film will be straight
black comedy, less violence, etc. He loved it though. That's consilation
- ha!
Ben : When does Volume 2 of the soundtrack come
out?
PT ANDERSON : Is there anything you would like
to hear on Vol. 2?
Ben : How did you decide to create the suspense
the way you did in the sequence with the firecrackers?
PT ANDERSON : I was influenced by a film called
Putney
Swope by Robert Downey, Sr. Please see it. It's brilliant.
Ben: How did you get Mark Wahlberg to sing so
bad with "Feel the Heat" and "You've Got the Touch"?
PT ANDERSON : I asked him to sing the best he
could, and he delivered.
Ben : Does your house look like Jack Horner's
house?
PT ANDERSON : I'm trying to make my house look
like Jack Horner's house.
Ben : Will the video be released letterboxed,
by any chance - please say it is?
PT ANDERSON : The VHS video will be released
pan and scanned and letterboxed.
Question : How did you get to be a director?
PT ANDERSON : I was arrogant enough to say "I'm
the director". If you write a script that someone wants to make, you can
blackmail them into letting you direct it.
Question : What made you decide to cast Burt
Reynolds as Jack?
PT ANDERSON : You can't write a movie about porno
in the 70's with a character named Jack Horner and not think of
Burt Reynolds.
Question : Mr. Anderson do you believe that the
title of a film has the same importance to success as that of a book, and
if so, do you think Boogie Nights is a good title depicting a film?
PT ANDERSON : I think any title with two "O"'s
in it is a good title.
Question : What made you cast Mark Wahlberg as
Dirk Diggler?
PT ANDERSON : He has a 13 inch penis so I guess
it's typecasting.
Randy: i just saw A Clockwork Orange at
the revival theater
Drexyl5987: Were you disappointed
watching it again?
Randy: disappointed is too strong a word.
but i didn't love it as much as I remembered it in high school
Drexyl5987: BINGO
Drexyl5987: I was slightly disappointed
watching it on DVD recently. I think it works better as a rebellion film
for me, personally, to have watched when I was too young
Randy: it's not as cool as it was then.
Randy: it drags in places.
Drexyl5987: and now, it just seems
so much more literary - like it has some strong message and point and I'm
just no longer interested in embracing it....which is wierd b'c
Drexyl5987: as a parent, I've changed
the way I do that more and more
Drexyl5987: That sounded really grown
up and odd, I'm sure.
Drexyl5987: Anyway.
Randy: and I never really fully realized
that it is essentially a comedy.
Drexyl5987: Yes.
Drexyl5987: My friend Ed told me
he never laughed as loud as the second time he saw EWS
Drexyl5987: and Nicole Kidman says
that the film is essentially a comedy
Drexyl5987: I think Kubrick has a
sense of humor....that's beyond normalcy and only those on the fringes
of their grasp on reality can buy into and make sense of it.
Drexyl5987: Maybe not.
Randy: Kubrick is funnier than he lets
on
Drexyl5987: Yes, I agree.
Drexyl5987: But I totally and utterly
hold with what you said...that it wasn't nearly as cool as when we were
in High school and refuting your mom's quote of : "It's crap".
Randy: it's not crap
Drexyl5987: Oh, I know.
Randy: but it's not as perfect as i once
thought
Drexyl5987: I mean - we used to debate
her so, if you recall.
Randy: yes
Drexyl5987: And I was watching it
in the afternoons before Mom would come home.....and feeling like I was
accomplishing maturity
JonR510: i thought of a situation for a
short film i could do.
Drexyl5987: That is.
JonR510: do you want a small dose?
Drexyl5987: Yes. I do.
JonR510: it is basically a guy who
is alone at the mall eating and he is watching this old woman buy her lottery
tickets and proceed to sit and scratch them off. he watches as she struggles
to see whether or not she won, and finally she finishes without showing
any emotion that would make him believe she won......
Drexyl5987: Ah, the fly-on-the-wall
catalyst enjoying some of life's everyday voyeur-friendly entertainments
(that would be bland in any other context)?
JonR510: she gathers the tix to put
them in the trash and passes him, as she does a ticket drops. he almost
says something, but figures it is useless b/c it is only trash which she
dropped. as he sits there he is looking at the ticket and he eventualy
picks it up only to realize it is a winner.....
Drexyl5987: Is it important why this
woman dropped it? Was she careless, too? Was she frustrated? What will
he do with it that will somehow vindicate the coincidence - in other words
- how will he transcend "simple luck" byy setting the equilibrium of the
universe equal between he and this stranger and the situation...
JonR510: now this is where i start
to get confused... so i think i want him to sit and discuss whether
or not he should return the ticket to the woman, i may have him discuss
it with his best friend and girlfriend who would act as his good-evil sides...
Drexyl5987: Me, personally....
JonR510: now what to do next......
JonR510: yes, what?
Drexyl5987: and this is mere hypothesis
: He should have that battle inside - and on his own playing field.
JonR510: i was thinking maybe voice-over,
or maybe even have him talk aloud but only to himself
JonR510: nobody would notice it
Drexyl5987: I know, from experience,
that I like watching films where one character goes through a range of
emotions without a girlfriend/good friend influencing a fragment
of thought that plows the snow for him - makes the path, so to speak.
JonR510: true true
JonR510: and i think i want him to
come to the conclusion that it just would not be right to keep the ticket....
Drexyl5987: The talking aloud has
promise - although, you'll see in the best foreign films that they have
few subtitles when they are character-driven, simply b/c they understand
that serenity and quiet say more than eloquent dialogue.
JonR510: but also....
Drexyl5987: but WHY wouldn't it be
right?
JonR510: (i dont know)
Drexyl5987: And voice-over should
only be used when it can be done creatively, originally, or multi-reason/meaning
JonR510: ( i want him to maybe
imagine that the woman's lottery habit is her only joy left in life, because
he feels that she is alone)
and he doesnt want to return the ticket because
by doing that he would be ending her joy
Drexyl5987: Voice-over has become
the most volatile language in film - and therefore the most cliched - and
whenever I find myself using it - I want to "slap my own face....
JonR510: i dont want voice-over,
it is out, i like the talking aloud
Drexyl5987: I like how you choose
not to stifle yourself - you had an idea that the woman should enjoy the
gamble of lottery and you apply it to his decision....you're on your way.
Drexyl5987: Less dialogue, more visual
language.
Drexyl5987: Interperate his thoughts
- the ones you percieve - as onscreen cuues and body language
JonR510: do you think this could
be a decent short, you can be honest... i dont mind at
all
Drexyl5987: And have an aimless,
but thought-provoking ending to boot (and have it in mind when you begin
writing, as I've said before)
Drexyl5987: I think it COULD be.
JonR510: hmmm
Drexyl5987: here's some film ideas
:
JonR510: ok
Drexyl5987: watch 'the minus man'
when you can to see how vo should be used - sparingly, etc - and how quiet
can disembowel the viewer sometimes.
Drexyl5987: Watching films by Takeshi
Kitano (Fireworks, Boiling Point - not the Hopper/Snipes shit - Sonatine,
Violent Cop, Gonin) will give you an understanding for what you can do
with the least of emotions - and they can show how to stretch an idea into
stylistic poetry and back.
JonR510: will do
Drexyl5987: And finally, any of the
recent lottery movies (Lotto Land, the Winner - - and there's another one
that escapes my mind) - and Danny Aeillo in '29th Street' - so you know
what's been done, so it isn't done again.
Drexyl5987: But don't fall into the
pitfall of blindly using the material to completely obliterate your objectivity
- and render you a thin xerox.
Drexyl5987: It's a fine line. Straddle
it.
JonR510: maybe the old woman
knew she won, and was going to throw it out anyway
Drexyl5987: That's an idea.
Drexyl5987: then you have one scene
of dialogue between the two
Drexyl5987: or one scene where he
hypothesizes the whole idea of her purging her win
Drexyl5987: and you're never sure
whether she did
Drexyl5987: or did not
JonR510: thats right
JonR510: i am at a pause as to why the
man doesnt want to, or can't keep the ticket for himself.
Drexyl5987: frame it around the fact
that you opened your short with him watching the old woman - imagine that
it's not the first time he's done so - and even if it is - if he's watched
her long enough to notice such things as the lottery tickets, her expressions,
etc. - - - -he's developed a far-off repore with her, one that can easily
flag him to a "hey, maybe I should include her in this whole bit".
JonR510: so maybe he feels bad "stealing"
her money, but at the same time doesnt want to give it to her
Drexyl5987: I don't think the short
is really about the money.
JonR510: nor do i
Drexyl5987: It's more about a ticket
that's different than the rest - and a woman that's different to him than
the rest of the strangers - because he's taken an interest in her.
Drexyl5987: That, and if there's
a dilemna - the money can't be that important to him.
JonR510: true
JonR510: do you think maybe he has
seen her here before, buying her tickets, and this time it becomes evident
what the lottery tickets mean to her
JonR510: you can criticise all you
want, i like to hear all opinions
Drexyl5987: Yes.
Drexyl5987: that's one way.
Drexyl5987: You've got to choose
the path - has he seen her before, or is he intrigued at that moment?
Drexyl5987: My gut tells me that
he's seen her before...in which case you must declare his reason for being
at that place at that time - and other times.
JonR510: hmmmm
JonR510: any ideas?
Drexyl5987: I like that he has been
watching her, casually (not a stalker, not obsessed - you must underscore
and make that clear), for quite some time.
JonR510: well i have had an idea
that he has a fantasy about what her life is like, lonely,
solemn, and this has come about because he used to see her at the mall
and she was never with anyone, always just at the table playing the
lottery tickets... maybe he even imagines he knows her name.... maybe
he unconsciously "meets" her to watch her , not realizing... hoping she
will win... and it is in this day that it becomes clear to him that she
isnt playing to win but rather......
JonR510: she is playing for what?
to live, to have something to hope for?
Drexyl5987: Those are your big questions.
JonR510: when he realizes the ticket
is a winner it becomes clear to him that he doesnt know her, he doesnt
know her name and obviously he has been hoping for the wrong thing....
and it is this realization that leads him to throw the ticket out rather
than end her routine (or joy, or life?)
Drexyl5987: any other fates you can
think of for the ticket? Anything boldly ironic?
JonR510: what could he do with the
ticket ?
JonR510: well it depends
how much is the ticket worth too
Drexyl5987: Right.
JonR510: the only thing i can come
up with is that he gets her more lottery tickets. He could either get her
all lottery tickets instead of the worth of the winnings, or he tosses
the winning ticket (because although it is a winner, it is less important
than a ticket that hasnt been scratched off) and buys her another ticket....
Drexyl5987: I like the idea of him
giving her all the tickets...
JonR510: what, all the tix
instead of money
Drexyl5987: how about him paying
off her tickets for years to come with the winnings - - - but by
cashing the winner in to the vendor in exchange for her tickets being paid
for.
JonR510: it is like the
tickets will take care of this woman as the money would take care of any
other person... by giving her all the tickets he is ensuring her well being
in a way
JonR510: like the money would bring
some people joy for the rest of their life, but for her its the tix`
Drexyl5987: that's a thought - but
for what we've worked through tonight, there must be some deeper elemental
meaning, something even more than the tickets meaning more to her than
money - a statement about that kind of appreciation
JonR510: thanks