164mm or 200mm?? POSTED TO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SmokingColouredCigarettes/ by summerheat69us on 2 Feb 2003 OMG! Call me an enthusiast, freak or whatever but I love loooong cigarettes and I have always been curious where the 164mm cigarettes you see women smoking in the videos could possibly come from as they are no longer produced and/or the producers or cigarette owners would eventually have to run out of them when shooting all the videos eventually over time. I have one possible theory and I figured if they (the smoking video producers) actually did run out of 164mm cigarettes- perhaps they are making them themselves or "modding" current cigarettes to make them longer and I have actually tried this technique with much success. Now not everyone appreciates a longer cigarette beyond 120mm but some of us entusiasts do so this is who this post is for mostly. This *could* be part of the answer to the 164mm cigarettes in the videos that you see. Now some 164's are truly legit but if one were in the business of making videos on the cheap of women smoking longer cigarettes beyond 120's- this would be one possible method out of a few that could be used. Considering the softening visual filters that are utilized in the shooting of some videos, it is possible that your eyes are bign "tricked" into thinking the women are smoking very long 164mm manufactured cigarettes when in fact, you may just not be seeing the conjoining point of two cigarettes that have been "modded". I'm not saying it's entirely impossible that true 164 manufactured cigarettes are not used since I don't produce the videos but I know of processes and a little camera trickery that can be used to give the appearance of a very long manufactured cigarette when one does not exist. I just finished making my first few X-X-long cigarette about 200mm or so (which I could theoretically cut down to a 164mm length) or almost the length of two Virginia Slim 120mm tobacco tubes without the use of rolling papers or a rolling machine! Long cigarettes are quite an interest to me- so the longer the better for me. I would never dream of smoking them in public since I am male but it's a fun little hobby of mine in what little spare time I get to smoke to say the least. I was reading messageboard threads about some people attempting to make longer cigarettes and it got me to thinking that instead of using a specialized or modified rolling machine and considering the weird looks I'd get in my small town having to buy rolling papers- just use the extra 20mm length of a 120 mm cigarette to "host" the end of another filterless 120 cigarette and it actually turns out quite solid, sealed and very manufactured feeling that is solid enough to withstand plenty of deashing. My heart was thumping so fast just at the length and the smoke...OMG the sweet 15or20 minutes of smoke- just like smoking my first long cigarette all over again to me! This may take a little bit of patience but the payoff is way bigger than the time or effort invested. What I did was I took two Virginia Slim menthol 120's (or your choice of 120 cigarette) and ripped off the filter of one where the filter joins the tobacco paper. I haven't tried an open edge razor blade but that would be ideal to diconnect the tobacco tube from the filter. Now take your "host" cigarette and grab the tobacco end between your thumb and index finger and roll it back and forth in your fingers pointing the open tobacco end down into an ashtray so that it may collect the falling excess tobacco. When you roll it, you are loosening and evacuating tobacco down to the first 20-30mm (or about 1") of the "host" cigarette so that you are creating a coupling joint for the other cigarette you tore. Now take your other filterless cigarette and conjoin it to the extra 20mm paper length "joint" you created in the host cigarette. Then it's like putting two small, tight fitting vacuum hose extensions together from there. If you're careful, you won't wrinkle the end paper on the host cigarette and it will remain pretty solid and you can try either pushing the extra lenght into the host cigarette or pulling the host paper over the etra length end. You can use either end of the filterless cigarette. I found that if I wanted an easier connection, I'd use the factory cut end to put into the excess paper but the paper lines do not match up. I tried it also by working the "ripped" end into the paper "joint" and with a bit more work, I could make the paper line up to give it a very straight, smooth manufactured look-but that's mostly only for cosmetic effect. I had to kinda gently twist the filterless end into the connection like a screw but if you keep a steady hand it should go in just fine. Once you have the first end in the excess paper tube you created- then you're pretty much home free. What worked for me is I would taper the end of the filterless cigarette "tube" by simply squeezing the end and trying to compact it as much as possible while keeping it symmetrical and the the next part you may need a nice flat surface to start although I have successfully done it without one. Now you're going to join the ends by slowly twisting the filterless end into the 120mm host cigarette with the filter. Just conjoin the two until there is a solid connection and enjoy! This technique works on any two like brand and make cigarettes so you don't have to use 120's- you can use any length you want. Hope this gives someone some pleasure of a very long-lasting cigarette who has always wanted to smoke one!