164 (
and 200s) (mostly
by Nat Sherman)
Sadly now long out of production, and their production
machinery is gone. The only way to get them now is to see them on video (see below), since no
supplier has them for sale any more, or make your own. But wow - those videos are stunning !!
| BRAND | FILTER | BODY | OTHER | BOX |
| Fantasia 164 | Gold | Pastel colours | Nat Sherman | Hard - various colours |
| MCD Double 164 B | Brown | Brown | Nat Sherman | n.a. |
| MCD Double 164 W | White | White | Nat Sherman | Hard white |
| Cigaretello 164 | Brown | Brown | Nat Sherman | n.a. |
| Joystick 150 | n.a. | n.a. | (not Shermans - British) | 10 piece slide pack |
| Regular 164 B | Unfiltered (yep!) | Brown | Nat Sherman | n.a. |
| Regular 164 W | Unfiltered | White | Nat Sherman | n.a. |
| Filter 160 | These are NOT 160's but are a disappointing mis-named short cigarette | |||
| Misty (creative fake) | White | White | Unknown artist | n.a. |
| Unknown 200 i ii iii iv |
White | White | Neither fake nor Shermans | n.a. |
During the height of the 164's popularity, Sherman's manufactured
all the lines of 164's listed above. Then production of the 164's was stopped
before the new millennium. As far as I can find out, this was pretty much an irreversible decision. The crossroads was when their 164mm cigarette making machines needed replacing; it was decided that it was too expensive in the long run; 164 sales had slumped and they could not justify spending the money on new 164 machines given that 164 sales were a small piece of their overall cigarette market.
Thanks to the Keeper of the Holder for that information (as a
former fan of the 164's and Sherman employee!).
For stills and videos of the 164, click here to see some, click here for some more, and then get along and buy 'Long Cigarettes' and some of the other videos at Light-Up Time http://www.lightuptime.tv/ (this is the latest site from Kellymedia) or the various 164mm videos and stills from Coherent Light: http://www.colight.com/
Photos this page are courtesy of Kellymedia, LightUp Time and Coherent Light
