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A Heretic (re)cants
Re: A Heretic (re)cants
Old pellets / spanish training sites
Re: Old pellets
CAT info needed
Reduced air rifle targets
Re: Reduced air rifle targets
Re: Reduced air rifle targets
Reply to changes to SSUSA magazine ASAP
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Chet Skinner wrote:
>
> Under cant conditions the recoil is variable because of the variable butt
> hook or plate positioning upon the shoulder at each shot caused during
> recoil. Because of this variable positioning of recoil impact on the
> shoulder is never the same and therefore the point of impact is never the
> same at each shot fired.
I would suggest that the original reason for "cant is a bad thing" is due
to the fact that in service rifle, and in Palma-style fullbore rifle, the
same rifle must be used at multiple ranges, and that rapid adjustment for
range is easiest if the sights lie in the same vertical plane as the barrel.
...of course, this is not the case in ISSF smallbore (50m only) or
bigbore (300m only).
Where I agree with Chet is that the head should be vertical. Where I
disagree with Chet is that a consistent vertical recoil is impossible
from a canted rifle. I, like many others, cant the rifle in the prone,
standing, and kneeling positions; however, the line of the barrel
drawn backwards either passes through the buttplate (prone) or directly
above the buttplate (standing and kneeling). My recoil is consistently
vertical in all three positions, and returns to the point of aim after
the shot. QED.
Martin
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Hi Martin,
Your correct but for one factor, the canted rifle in an uncanted shoulder
will not work consistently for the shooting athlete. With ISSF we have
adjustable cheek pieces, butt plates and hooks. Such adjustments
eliminates the need to cant the rifle.
The recoil movement will move into the direction of least resistance and
therefore other than straight up and down as required. You can give me all
the reasons why Canting of the rifle is good and I will counter every one of
them as the canting procedure has errors in technique and position. And,
the error effect of adding additional controlling work for the mental
entity. We must reduce the mental work and not increase it by canting the
rifle.
The biggest match pressure errors is the overloading the mind with useless
work that is not required for the accomplishment of the Perfect bull's eye
through the one-shot-match. You see you need all the mental capacity to
work in the one-shot-match and PBE goal. Any function that is beyond this
will detract from the minds ability to accomplish this tasking.
Chet Skinner, Coach
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>Dear Mitchael :
> I want to ask you what happen with pellets that
> have been stocked from a large period of time,a friend of mine have H & N
> pistol match in a quantity of 1.000.000 and he said to me that pellets
> don t lost its characteristics,I saw several tins and each pellet lost
> its shine .
> By other way I want to know where I can find some infornation about how
> to train with pistol in spanish due to I want to give the information to
> some friends as a gift.
>
>Best regards
>Cristian Junemann
>Santiago-Chile
[Editor - While the pellets won't lose their shape, it is possible the lube
could change characteristics, which could have an effect. The only way to
tell is to test them. If they shoot groups as good as new pellets, then I
would think they would be fine.
As for your Spanish pages, one thing you may try is finding some sites you
like in English and running them through Alta Vista's Babelfish translator
and then cleaning up after it since it isn't perfect, especially with
technical language. That way you can make your own little training manual
in many different languages. Of course, you should get permission if any
material is copyrighted.]
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> I want to ask you what happen with pellets that
> have been stocked from a large period of time,a friend of mine have H & N
> pistol match in a quantity of 1.000.000 and he said to me that pellets
> don t lost its characteristics,I saw several tins and each pellet lost
> its shine .
If the tins are sealed tightly, they should stay fresh for a long time.
Boxed pellets, individually packed in foam for match use, get dull faster.
The lube might oxidize, and lead metal will also oxidize over time.
R-10 pellets are shiny. Most others look dull by comparison, even when new,
and should not be confused with old R-10s. The difference is the type of
lube applied and/or different alloys of lead.
I have tried many different pellets, including target and hunting varieties
and different weights, and so far cannot tell any difference in accuracy
between any of them in my air pistol! There might be some difference if
measured from a machine rest, or if fired from a precise rifle, but
apparently they are all so much more accurate than my pistol shooting that
there is no practical effect. Because even the best are cheap, I shoot R-10
or Nygord pellets for matches and practice.
- Benjamin McLeod
Reston, VA
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Hello to all
I need to know the program of the Pan-American games in Atlanta which they
begin September 30 and of any store of teams and relating books to Olimpic
Shooting in that city.
I will thank you these information in view that I will be representing my
Country Dominican Republic in this event
Thank you
Edward Enrique Nouel Veloz
[Editor - CAT will be at Ft. Benning in Columbus, GA, which is about 2 hours from Atlanta. CenterShotSports used to be located near Atlanta, but they have just moved to Virginia. I'm not aware of any other store in the area that caters to international shooting. You could visit the Olympic ranges, of course.]
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Time constraints all too often prevent me from going to my local range for
practice, and so I practice air rifle in the basement of my home. It is a small
basement, however, and I only have 25 feet of distance from my firing line to my
backstop. This presents a problem with targets. If I use a standard target (I
ignore the shot value and just shoot for the middle of the bull) the bull
appears too large in my front sight and I have to use a larger aperture. This
works for training, but it's not ideal. I have tried taking a 10m target to a
copy shop and reducing it with a photocopier, but I find that the paper stock
reflects light quite a bit more than a "real" target. Also not ideal. Do any
other shooters out there have this problem? Are reduced 10m target available
anywhere? Are BB gun targets worth using (again, just shooting for the middle
of the bull?) I'll appreciate any help.
Tom Neuser
[Editor - It seems targets reduced to 6m are available but I don't know
from where as people use them for some of the monthly internet matches. One
thing that would save you lots of $$$ would be to cut a hole the correct
size in a normal target card and face the back toward you, using black
construction paper or similar material to keep replacing the center you shoot.]
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For all targets I have found that starting with a single 50 meter bull is the
best. This single bull is reducible and is easy to make fit any distance.
For paper I have them print on light brown or cream 20lb paper stock. If
you take a standard target with you to the printers you can match the color
and print as you needed. As for size I would set your sights to the normal
range you compete in and reduce the target to that size for 25 feet. Not
all that hard. In the basement place a white sheet of butcher paper on the
wall 25 feet from the firing line and have some one mark the four boundaries
of the iris or sight circle as viewed through the sights. Then reproduce
the bull to those marks until you have a good fit. You can use math to
resize but this may not make it but you can try if you wish. The key is to
use a ISSF 50 meter single bull as the starting point.
Chet
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If you want to work with reduced targets you can try a software package
from Pellant. You can set-up and print various sizes and styles of
targets. It is shareware and you can download it from
http://home.hiwaay.net/~ispellan/Software.html
I use a laser printer and print the reduced targets on the back of my
regular targets. If you want to get more specific scoring at reduced
targets Grezgorz Gladyszewski developed an Excel spreadsheet to
calculate interior and exterior ring sizes for shooting in the High Noon
postal match shown in the Target Talk bulletin board. The address for
the file is http://dune.pol.lublin.pl/~dch/highnoon/highnoon.htm but he
has been having trouble with a new server. He can explain more the
reasons for using exterior rings much better than I can.
I hope that this helps,
Chuck
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For practice with reduced targets on normal copy paper, a normal flat nose
wadcutter pellet will tear the paper instead of cutting it cleanly. That is
because copy paper has fibers whose purpose is to make the paper stronger,
and they work. The solution is to use pointed hunting pellets such as Nobel
"Superpoint". These tear only a small hole, and you can see exactly where
the point hit the paper because that's where the tear lines meet. If you
want the target background darker, you can buy light tan paper or perhaps
set the copier to "dark".
Also I don't know what original target you are using, but pistol targets are
usually made in single bull configuration. For reduction, I taped 5 of them
together to make a multi-bull target of the right size to fit my backstop.
- Benjamin McLeod
Reston, VA
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Dear Competitive Shooter:
This e-mail is in reference to the Letter from the Editor in the latest
issue of Shooting Sports USA (Sept. 2001, page 4).
Editor Dave Campbell's letter outlines major changes that will
take place to SSUSA starting next month. Simply put, the
magazine will be expanded and will become a newsstand
publication (as well as a subscription publication), and will
"seek out a broader base of sport shooting interests" (para. 5).
Skip to the next to last paragraph - the one that starts, "Competitive
shooters will not be ignored." Here you read that Coming Events
and news of tournament results will be taken out of the new magazine
and will be sent quarterly to competitive shooters only.
Many of you will remember, years ago, when Coming Events was
taken out of The American Rifleman, there was an immediate drop
in the numbers of competitors and numbers of tournaments. It has
taken a long time, but through the hard work of competitors like
yourself, our numbers are growing -- slowly, but growing. Now we
are faced with Coming Events being taken out of yet another
magazine, and one that preached to the choir at that, and sent to
us quarterly instead of monthly.
I find this to be unacceptable.
If you feel, as I do, that it is (past) time to promote competitive
shooting, especially on the newsstand ...
If you feel, as I do, that the money saved by Publications by not
printing Coming Events "on better paper" will severely impact on
the successful operations of the Competitive Shooting Division
because of the drop in numbers of competitors/tournaments ...
If you feel, as I do, that a quarterly publication of Coming Events will
not meet the needs of the shooting community and will put a huge
burden on tournament sponsors -- volunteer club members like
yourself -- to be sure not to miss a deadline because the next
issue is another quarter of a year away ...
... then IMMEDIATELY please e-mail your polite, constructive and
nicely worded comments to the NRA's Executive Director of
Publications Administration, Mr. Joe Graham at <[email protected]>.
Mr. Graham has done a fantastic job with The American Rifleman/
Hunter/First Freedom magazines and he wants to hear what you have
to say about SSUSA. In my telephone conversation with him yesterday,
he offered to print Coming Events monthly on newsprint, but to be
shrink-wrapped and send to competitive shooters only (not to the
newsstand). Still unacceptable to me, because this does not promote
competitive shooting.
There is some urgency here -- the NRA Board of Directors meets Sept.
15-16. There are many Board members who will speak for you, but they
need to know that you have made your comments known to the person
who needs to know, Mr. Graham. NRA Board member Walt Walter and
I would also like to receive your e-mailed comments to Mr. Graham, so
please "cc" or "bcc" us on your e-mail to Mr. Graham -- but you have to
send your copy to us before Sept. 11, the day we leave for committee
meetings that precede the Board meeting. Walt and I would love to have
a stack of papers to show people at the Board meeting, but we can't do
that without your help. Please cc/bcc us at:
Edie Reynolds <[email protected]>
Walt Walter <[email protected]>
I have sent this to (hundreds of) my closest friends. Please send this to
(hundreds of) your closest friends ... the nicest people in the world --
other competitive shooters!
Thank you for your assistance with this issue that is so important to
the promotion of competitive shooting.
Edie Reynolds
Member
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