Zelena Narava - Green Nature - Odgovor - Reply Margot Wallström
Odgovor - reply : Commissioner Margot Wallström in g.Vesne Kolar Planinic
6. Junij 2003

Zasanjana pokrajina na Golicu - jo bomo znali ohraniti ?
Beautiful faraway landscape on Golic - eternity pasture - we'll know to keep ?
Koper, 22 .4.2003
Dear Mrs. Margot Wallström - EU Accession Officer - Natura2000
This Saturday 26.4.2003 at 14:00 is in small
village Rakitovec
Open discussion about put wind turbines in this area.
Next day is open discusion obout project natura3 life .
Is possible, that this two project are together in one area ?
Wind turbines and natural park in one area is possible just in Slovenia.
This people, who lead this project have not send neither one note in newspaper
,
That this area is not for wind trubines ???????
I have recommend this to this people from Koper But without response, ??????
Because is some much money in this project 480.000 euros.
I send letter to mrs. Vesna Kolar Planinsic
To tell me or to tell the owners of property of Golic how much money they
give this people ?
I ' ll put this question on this open table discusion.
Golic is important area for drinking water - is on second protection zone.
Rich fauna, flora, and so and so...
Please , write to this people and ask how they think to manage this two
project
Wind turbines and natural park -nature3- life in one area ?
We think, that EU is not so stupid to throw her money for prepare area for
wind turbines,
Also ask this people why they are so inactive and ask when they think to
put this area in project
Important state protection area R. Slovenia ?
Look in our web side is all free work and is effeectivenes .
www.geocites.com/zelenanarava
Who will tell this people, that nor in Europe did
not put wind turbines in areas, where they can' t do.
By Narava
Please response to this e-mail
Drugi - second e-mail 17. Maj 2003
Dear Mrs. Margot Wallström
This is the second e-mail .
Because you not reply to our frst e-mail, we write to you again.
What do you think about projekt natura2000 life and Wind turbines in the same area ?
If we not receive your's e-mail , we inform
your's supervisior or some european
newspaper , What happened in Slovenia and all about
responsibility
.
By,Narava
Prvi odgovor - First reply Secretary Monika Schopf
On Tue, 20 May 2003 at 10:33:28, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Madam, Sir,
Commissioner Margot Wallström received both your e-mails from April
22 and
May 17. An answer is being prepared for you and will be sent to you in the
coming days.
Kind regards,
Monika Schopf
Secretary to Henning Arp
Cabinet Wallström
Avenue de Beaulieu 5,
1160 Brussels
Tel: +32.2.2981812
Fax: +32.2.2981899
Odgovor reply Margot WALLSTRÖM
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>CC: [email protected]
>Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:34:22 +0200
D(03) 5999 - Ref: A(03)10045
Dear Mr. Narava,
Thank you for your e-mail. Unfortunately, in
order for us to be able to
reply to your query we will need some more information regarding the
particular project you refer to in your e-mail. We would be grateful if
you
could provide the Directorate-General for Environment (Mrs. Soledad Blanco,
Head of Unit, Enlargement and Neighbouring Countries:
[email protected]) with the following information:
* Title of the LIFE project,
* Number of the project, and
* Name of the protected area.
In any case we would like to assure you that
so far no decision on funding
for the 2003 LIFE programme has been taken. Any final decision on particular
projects will only be taken after careful consideration of its environmental
impacts and that it complies with European Community legislation.
I would like to thank you for your interest
and to assure you that the
Commission will do its utmost to ensure that the rich Slovenian
bio-diversity is protected in conformity with the EU environmental acquis.
Yours sincerely,
Margot WALLSTRÖM
Cc: Bruno Julien (Life unit DG ENV)
Tudi Evropska komisionarka ima svoje podrejene in odgovarja, naj obvestimo g. Soledad Blanco o :
* Naslov Life projekta
* tevilo projektov
* Ime zavarovane pokrajine
Directorate-General for Environment (Mrs. Soledad Blanco,
Head of Unit, Enlargement and Neighbouring Countries:
[email protected]) with the following information:
* Title of the LIFE project,
* Number of the project, and
* Name of the protected area.
E-maili za Mrs. Soledad Blanco , Margot WALLSTRÖM in g. Vesna Kolar Planinic
Za g. Vesna Kolar Planinic- koordinatorica projekta Life III-Narava
Spotovani !
Evropska komisionarka g. Margot WALLSTRÖM nas sprauje o :
* Naslov Life projekta
* tevilo projektov
* Ime zavarovane pokrajine
in naj o temu obvestimo g. Soledad Blanco .
Prosimo, da nam posredujete zgoraj navedene podatke.
Pozdrav Narava
Dear Mrs. Soledad Blanco and Margot WALLSTRÖM
Thanks for your's e-mail,
we think that :
* Title of the LIFE project is natura2000 life
III
* Number of the project - we dont' know
* Name of the protected area - Kraki rob and Golic.
Please ask mrs. Vesna Kolar Planinic about all [email protected].
Mrs . Vesna Kolar Planinic is the head of this project in Slovenia.
By Narava
Please response to this e-mail
Odgovor g. Vesne Kolar Planinic 10. Junij 2003
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 at 16:24:42, Vesna Kolar-Planinic wrote:
Dragi g. David!
Dear Mr. David !
Z ministrstva za okolje, prostor in energijo ,Urada za okolje
vam
posredujemo ime projekta,
ki poteka na Krakem robu: Varstvo ogrozenih vrst in habiattov v
predlaganem Krakem parku (SW Slovenia).
On behalf of Ministry of the Environment, Spatial Planning
and energy, we
are sending the name of the LIFE III-Nature projects: Conservation of
endangered habitats and species in the proposed Karst Regional Park (SW
Slovenia).
Prijavitelj/Apllicant: Znanstveno raziskovalno sredice
republike
Slovenije, Koper
Science and Research Centre of the Republic of Slovenija.
dr. Darko Darovec, Garibaldijeva 18, 6000 Koper.
Vse detajlne informacije o projektu /All detail information
about the
project: Andrej Sovinc, Bojana Lipej.
Tel: +386 5 663 7700
Fax: + 386 5 627 13 21
Sodelovali ste na delavnici o LIFE projektu in veseli nas,
da z zanimanjem
spremljate naravovarstven projekt in da hkrati spremljate tudi vse ideje,
gled umestitev vetrnih central./You were actively participating the
workshop with the presentation of the LIFE project and we are pleased that
you are concern towards the ideas about the wind miles, which are going
on
in Slovenia.
Projekt LIFE sofinancira in podpira tudi Ministrstvo za okolje, prostor
in
energijo .
The project co-financer is Ministry of Environment, Spatial Planning and
Energy, which supported the LIFE project.
Ponovno vam poiljamo pozicijo naega ministrstva
glede vetrnih elektrarn/
We are sending the position of our minister about the wind miles on Golic.
Obvecamo vas tudi ponovno, da je Zavod za varstvo narave podal negativno
mnenje glede umestitve vetrnih central
na Golicu./We inform you once more, that Institute for nature conservation
has sent the negative altitude toward the
idea of wind miles on Golic.
S spotovanjem,
Sincerely yours,
(See attached file: 13 GOLIC.doc)
Vesna Kolar Planinic
Pismo ministra za okolje g. Janeza Kopaca Zavodu RS za varstvo narave Piran ( attached file: 13 GOLIC.doc )
tevilka: 350-13-9/2002
Datum: 18. april 2003
Zavod RS za varstvo narave
Obmocna enota Piran
mag. Robert Turk
Tartinijev trg 12
6330 Piran
Zadeva: Vetrne elektrarne na Golicu
Spotovani,
prejeli smo va dopis, s katerim nas obvecate, da bo v okviru prireditev v Rakitovcu pod Golicem v soboto, 26. aprila 2003, organizirana razprava v zvezi z nacrti postavljanja vetrnih elektrarn na Golicu. V dopisu tudi navajate, da prebivalci Rakitovca od izvajalcev projekta LIFE "Ohranitev in varstvo ogrozenih habitatov in vrst na Krakem robu"", ki od oktobra lani poteka na Krakem robu, pricakujejo, da jim odgovorijo, ali vetrne elektrarne na Golicu bodo ali ne. Poleg tega prosite za stalice ministrstva o trenutnih nacrtih v zvezi z umecanjem vetrnih elektrarn v prostor.
Pojasniti moramo, da je ucinkovitost delovanja vetrnih elektrarn odvisna od primernosti lokacije, ki je pogojena predvsem z zadostno prevetrenostjo. Rezultati meteorolokih modelov in obstojecih meritev vetra izkazujejo, da je v Sloveniji najvecji vetrni potencial predvsem na irem obmocju Primorske. Primernost Primorske za izkoricanje vetra za proizvodnjo elektricne energije so potrdile tudi namenske meritve, ki se izvajajo za obmocje Primorske. Urad RS za prostorsko planiranje pa je za to obmocje izdelal tudijo z naslovom "Ustreznost prostora za gradnjo in delovanje vetrnih elektrarn na drzavnem nivoju".
Na podlagi rezultatov navedenih strokovnih podlag je bil pripravljen odlok o spremembah in dopolnitvah prostorskih sestavin dolgorocnega in srednjerocnega plana RS, ki ga je drzavni zbor sprejel konec lanskega leta. Omenjeni dokument med drugim opredeljuje tudi obmocja, ki so ustrezna oziroma pogojno ustrezna za proucevanje izgradnje vetrne elektrarne z mocjo nad 10 MW.
Znotraj teh obmocij pa se lahko na lokalni ravni dolocijo natancneje lokacije, kjer se bodo v prihodnosti lahko izvajale ustrezne natancneje meritve vetra in druge potrebne analize glede moznosti izgradnje vetrnih elektrarn vecjih moci. Na podlagi odloka lahko torej obcine uvrstijo vetrne elektrarne v svoje obcinske prostorske akte. Strokovne podlage za pripravo sprememb in dopolnitev obcinskih prostorskih planov bodo zagotovili posamezni investitorji vetrnih elektrarn, ministrstvo pa se bo do teh strokovnih podlag opredelilo v skladu z elektroenergetskimi razvojnimi programi.
Ministrstvo za okolje, prostor in energijo torej ni pravi naslovnik za vpraanje o konkretnih lokacijah vetrnih elektrarn. Ne glede na to pa lahko povemo, da so meritve, ki so na tem obmocju potekale od leta 2001, in izdelane strokovne presoje pokazale, da na Golicu obstaja moznost izkoricanja potenciala vetra za proizvodnjo elektricne energije in vkljucitev tega obmocja v slovenski elektroenergetski sistem. Vendar so, kot veste, naravovarstvene smernice pokazale, da je obmocje Golic- Lipnik - Kavcic (travica) naravna vrednota, ceprav formalno kot taka e ni razglaena. Konkretna lokacija je namrec obmocje ohranjenih strnjenih travic, ki so vrstno bogati, s populacijami ogrozenih vrst, ki pa so na tem obmocju v ugodnem stanju. Obmocje izpolnjuje kriterije mednarodno pomembnega obmocja za rastline (IPA), poleg tega je pomemben zivljenjski prostor ogrozenih vrst pticev (planinski orel, orel kacar, postovke, lunje, velika uharica in drugih). Celotno obmocje Krakega roba je del ekoloko pomembnega obmocja Kras in je potencialno obmocje Natura 2000.
Sicer pa se ministrstvo zavzema, da s primernimi ukrepi zagotavlja prednost uporabi obnovljivih oblik energije ter energetskih virov, ki manj onesnazujejo okolje. Z izgradnjo vetrnih elektrarn bomo prispevali k uresnicevanju obveznosti kjotskega protokola, po katerih moramo zmanjati emisije toplogrednih plinov. Energetska politika je usmerjena v odpravljanje posledic onesnazevanja in v zamenjavo tehnologij, ki pospeujejo nastajanje ucinkov tople grede, generirajo duikove okside v atmosfero in povzrocajo emisije tezkih kovin, pranih delcev, pepela in emisije toplote v ozracje oziroma vodo. Vkljucitev novih energetskih virov proizvodnje elektricne energije v energetski sistem pomeni tudi zagotavljanje vecje stabilnosti slovenskega energetskega sistema.
Glede sodelovanja na razpravi pa prosimo, da na razpravi predstavite tudi navedeno stalice ministrstva.
S spotovanjem.
mag. Janez Kopac
M I N I S T E R
Prevod v vecini - translation ( http://prevedi.slowwwenia.com/prevajanje.asp ) :
Institute RS for protection of nature Piran
tevilka: 350-13-9/2002
Datum: 18. april 2003
Zavod RS za varstvo narave
Obmocna enota Piran
mag. Robert Turk
Tartinijev trg 12
6330 Piran
He's concerning: Of wind power plant
on Golic
Respected,
we've received your paper, with which
us notify, that will in frame entertainment in Rakitovec under Golic to
Saturday, 26th of April 2003, organised debate to union with plans of seting
of wind power plants on Golic. In paper also accustom, that inhabitants
Of Rakitovec from performers of project LIFE "Preservation and protection
of threatened habitatov and of types on Kras edge"", which from
October last year goes on Kras edge, they expect, that them reply, or of
wind power plant on Golic will or no. By this beg for opinion of ministry
about momentary plans to union with instal wind power plants to place.
To explain must, that is effectiveness of activity of wind power plants
dependent from suitable location, which is conditional above all from sufficiently
aired. Results of meteorological models and of existent measurements of
wind demonstrate, that is in Slovenia the biggest wind potential above all
on broader range Of Primorska. Suitable Primorska for exploiting of wind
for production of electrical energy have confirmed also of dedicated measurement,
which carry out for range Of Primorska. Office RS for spatial planing is
for this range create study with address "Suitable of place for construction
and activity of wind power plants on state level".
Based on results of stated professional bases was ready decree about changes
and supplementations of spatial ingredients long-term and medium-term plan
RS, which him is National Assembly accept end last year. Mentioned document
between other defines also of range, which are suitable respectively conditionally
suitable for research construction of wind power plant with power over 10
MW.
Inside this ranges can on local plain establish more precisely location,
where will to future can carry out of suitable more precisely measurement
of wind and of other necessary analysis as possibility of construction of
wind power plants of bigger can. Based on decree can so of municipality
place of wind power plant to one's municipal spatial acts.
Of professional base for sheath of changes
and supplementation of municipal spatial plans will ensure individual investors
of wind power plants, ministry will till this professional bases define
pursuant to electroenergetic developmental programs.
Ministry for environment, place and energy so is not real addressee for
question about concrete locations of wind power plants. Irrespective of
this can tell, that are of measurement, which are on this range go from
year 2001, and of created professional judgement show, that on Golic exists
possibility of exploiting of potential of wind for production of electrical
energy and inclusion this range to Slovenian electroenergetic system.
However are, as know, naturprotection guideline show, that is range Golic-
Lipnik - Kavcic (grassyard - grass ground) adjusts valuableness, although
formally as such still is not declared. Concrete location is namely range
of kept united grassyard, which are sort gets rich, with populations threatened
types, which are on this range in favourable state. Range fulfils criteria
internationally important range for plant (IPA), by this is important vital
place of threatened types of birds (golden eagle, eagle Kacar, kestrel,
harriers, big eagle-owl and of other). Entire range Kras edge is part ecologically
important range Kras and is potential range Nature 2000.
Else ministry strives, that with suitable measures ensures advantage to use renewed shapes of energy and of energy sources, which less pollute environment. With construction of wind power plants will contribute to implementation of duty of Kyoto protocol, round which must to reduce of emission hotbed gases.
Energy policy is directed to seting out of consequences of pollution and to replacement of technologies, which accelerate originating of effects of hotbed, generate azote's oxides to atmosphere and cause of emission of heavy metals, of dusty particles, of ash and of emission of warmth to atmosphere respectively water. Inclusion of new energy sources of production of electrical energy to energy system means also ensuring of bigger stability of Slovenian energy system.
As co-operation on debate beg, that on debate introduce also stated opinion of ministry.
With respect.
ministry for environment, place and energy
mr. Janez Kopac
Pismo e-mail for Commissioner Margot Wallström 12. Junij 2003
Spotovani g. Margot Wallström
Ministrstvo za okolje , prostor in energijo odloca o parku
in o vetrnih elektrarnah.
Ministrstvo daje prednost vetrnim elektrarnam in zato smo pisali vam,
da posredujete na ministrstvo in jih vpraate, zakaj potem hocejo oba
projekta,
na istem podrocju ? Kaj tudi v EU imate projekt Natura2000 in vetrne elektrarne
na istem podrocju ? V Rakitovcu ze poteka projekt Natura2000, zato smo vas
obvestili o vsemu, ker vse skupaj ni logicno.
Pozdrav narava
Dear Mrs. Margot Wallström
Ministry for environment , place and energy decides about
park and about wind power plants.
Ministry gives advantage to wind power plants and therefor have written
you,
that intervene on ministry and them ask, why they want both project,
on the same field ?
What also to EU have project Nature2000 and of wind power plant on the same
field ? In Rakitovec already goes project Nature2000, therefor are you notify
about entire, because entire together is not logical.
By Narava - Natura
Please response to this e-mail
Pismo ministru za okolje, prostor in energijo g. Janez Kopac - 13. Junij 2003
E-mail to minister for environment, space and energy mr. Janez Kopac - 13. 06. 2003
Spotovani g. Janez Kopac
Ministrstvo za okolje , prostor in energijo odloca o parku in o vetrnih
elektrarnah.
Ministrstvo daje prednost vetrnim elektrarnam in zato smo pisali Vam,
da nam odgovorite kaj bo na Golicu projekt natura 2000 ali vetrne elektrarne
?
Iz Vaega dopisa nam ni jasno kaj pravzaprav ste mislili ?
V Rakitovcu ze poteka projekt Natura2000, zato vse skupaj ni logicno.
Pozdrav Narava. Prosimo za Va odgovor .
Respected Mr. Janez Kopac
Ministry for environment , place and energy desides about park and about
wind power plants.
Ministry gives advantage to wind power plants and therefor have written
you,
that us reply what will on Golicu project nature2000 or of wind power plant
?
From Your paper is not clearly what you are think ?
In Rakitovec goes project Nature2000, therefor entire together is not logical.
Greeting Nature.We're begging for Your answer .
By Natura
Upamo, da se ministrstvo zaveda, da planota Golic spada v Drugi vodovarstveni pas reke Rizane, ki skoraj v celoti pokriva
s preskrbo pitne vode vso Slovensko Istro in da nikjer na svetu Vetrnih elektrarn ne postavljajo na taka obmocja zaradi potencialnega onesnazenja pitne vode s sinteticnim oljem ( vsaka vetrna turbina ima okoli 370 litrov olja, 370 x 80 vetrnih elektrn = 30.000 litov olja ). Da bodo vetrne elektrarne vidne iz Hrastoveljskega tabora in da na tem podrocju ze poteka Evropski projekt Natura2000.
Hope, that ministry realizes, that plateau of Golice belongs
to Second water protect zone
of river Rizane, which almost to whole covers with preskrbo drinking
water entire Slovene Istria and that nowhere on world Of wind elektarn no
set on such ranges because of potential pollution of drinking water with
synthetic oil ( every wind turbine has round 370 litres of oil ,370 x 80
Wind turbines = 30.000 litres of oil ). That will of wind elektarne of visual
from Hrastovlje church
- tabor ( The dance of death - freske ) and that on this field already goes
European project Natura2000.
Odgovor Nicholas Hanley 17 junij 2003
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 15:40:22, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Madam, Sir,
Thank you for your e-mails of 22 April and 17 May addressed
to Commissioner
Margot Wallström. According to the information received from the Slovenian
Environment Ministry, a project to build wind turbines in the area of Karsk
has not been approved, and is being examined in the light of the fact that
the project site is likely to become part of the Natura 2000 network once
Slovenia joins the European Union. It was this likelihood that the site
will
become part of Natura 2000 that led the European Commission to approve the
financing of a LIFE-Nature project in the area, and we are particularly
attentive to ensure that the results of the LIFE project are not compromised
by development projects in the area.
Yours faithfully,
Nicholas Hanley
N.J. Hanley
Head of Unit DG ENV.B2
Nature & Biodiversity
European Commission
Tel.: 02/296.87.03
Fax: 02/299.08.95
E-mail: [email protected]
E-mail for Mr. Nicholas Hugley - 17 junij 2003
Thanks for your e-mail. So, why Ministry for environment , place and energy - Minister Janez Kopac send to
Institute RS for protection of nature Piran 18. April 2003 ( see attached file: 13 GOLIC.doc up in this page ) that :
Else ministry strives, that with suitable measures ensures advantage to use renewed shapes of energy and of energy sources, which less pollute environment. With construction of wind power plants will contribute to implementation of duty of Kyoto protocol, round which must to reduce of emission hotbed gases.
When - which date ( before or after 18. April 2003 ) you received that information from Slovenia ?
Can you send this information ?
Please to reply .
By Narava
Odgovor reply Mrs. Soledad BLANCO Head of Unit 4 Julij 2003
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 at 17:53:27, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Mr Narava,
Please see reply letter attached.
Best regards,
Pascale Tindall
European Commission
DG Environment
Tel: +32-2-29-54636
Fax: +32-2-29-94123
e-mail: [email protected]
Brussels, 04.07.2003
ENV E.1/JPA/pt D(2003) 611331
Mr David NARAVA
e-mail: [email protected]
Dear Mr. Narava,
Thank you for your e-mails about the possible construction of a wind power
project in the Kraki rob and Golic area where the LIFE project titled
"Conservation of endangered habitats/species in the future Karst Park
(LIFE2002NAT/SLO/8587)" is being carried out.
Further to your reply to Mrs. Wallström's letter dated 5 June 2003,
where you provided some more information on this issue, I can inform you
that the project on wind power generation will not take place in the same
area as the Karst Park, nor will there be any assistance from the LIFE programme
for the wind power project.
In any case, I should like to take this opportunity to assure you that any
decision on particular projects is only taken after careful consideration
of its environmental impacts. As part of its requirements for EU accession,
Slovenia is committed to identify areas that will in future become part
of the Natura 2000 network. In this instance, if a project is likely to
affect such sites of nature conservation importance, an appropriate assessment
according to Article 6(3) and (4) of the Habitats Directive must be conducted.
I would like to thank you for your interest in this issue.
Yours sincerely,
(signed)
Soledad BLANCO
Head of Unit
Odgovor reply Mrs. Helen Jolly, Mr. Nicholas Hugley 8 Julij 2003
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 at 15:23:16, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Madam, Sir,
Thank you for your e-mail of 17 June 2003. The information
that I referred
to in my e-mail to you of the same date was received by telephone from the
Slovenian Environment Ministry in mid-June and therefore after 18 April
2003. It confirmed that a request to build wind turbines in the area of
Karsk had indeed been submitted to the Slovenian government, but that the
project had not been approved and was being assessed, taking into proper
consideration the location within a future Natura 2000 site.
Sincerely,
N.J. Hanley
Head of Unit DG ENV.B2
Nature & Biodiversity
European Commission
Tel.: 02/296.87.03
Fax: 02/299.08.95
E-mail: [email protected]
Odgovor reply Mrs. Soledad BLANCO Head of Unit, Mr. Lois Williamson 17 Julij 2003
Dear Mr Narava,
Please find attached our response to your correspondence.
Sincerely, Lois Williamson
European Commission - Environment Directorate-General
DG ENV.E.1 - Enlargement and Neighbouring Countries
BU-9 5/137
B-1049 Brussels
Tel: +32 2 299 04 30
Fax: +32 2 299 41 23
email: [email protected]
<<169 Navara.doc>>
Subject: Natura 2000 in Slovenia
Dear Mr Narava,
Further to our letter dated 4 July 2003 and to your e-mail dated 27 June
2003, Commissioner Wallström has asked me to reply to your query about
when we received information that the project on wind power generation would
not take place in the Kraki rob and Golic area.
We can inform you that this information was transmitted to the Commission
during a meeting in Ljubljana on 18 June 2003, with representatives from
the Ministry of Energy, Environment and Social Planning.
I would like to thank you for your interest in this issue and hope that
this reply answers your queries.
Soledad BLANCO
Head of Unit
Ministrstvo odgovarja Evropskim komisarjem, da Vetrnih elektrarn na Golicu in Krakem robu ne bo.
Evropski komisarji odgovarjajo na nae e-maile, le na Slovenski minister g. Janez Kopac pa ne ???
European commissioners are reply on our e-mails, only our Slovenian minister Mr. Janez Kopac did not ???
Let of Golice stays goal and let him however Mr. minister Janez Kopac at once put in to spatial plan between most highly Natural treasure R. Of Slovenia.
Naj Golic ostane gol in naj ga vendar g. minister Janez Kopac ze enkrat umesti v prostorski plan
med najvije Naravne vrednote R. Slovenije.
Nazaj na stran Zelena narava - Home - klikni