From: Bernd Hoffmann <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: 70-217 Anyone succeeded?
I missed it yesterday with only 50 points. 655 required.
What should you know:
- Security, Templates
- GPO, Settings
- ntdsutil (ex. compact database)
- ntds.dit
- (authorative) restore
- Event monitoring/analyzing
Has anyone answers for this:
Admin2 deletes OU1 working on ServerB.
Admin1 copies 5 users into OU1 working on ServerA BEFORE replication
occours.
After this Admin1 recognize that OU1 is deleted.
How can you reinstate the result of Admin1s action?
(something with LostFound Container?!?)
cu
Bernd
ps. I missed 70-217 but suceeded 70-219 :-)
pss.70-216 is harder...
"Reto Rickenbach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi everybody
Is there anybody that made the 70-217 and can give me some hints?
Thanks in advice, Reto
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* [email protected]
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From: DannyBoy <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: Passed Server today!
Well, I just passed Server today (899/1000). 35 questions -
straightforward. Non-adaptive. You are allowed to mark the question and go
back through the test after you are finished and before you end the exam.
Lots of RAS and Netware questions, however not one question looked like a
Transcender question or a Petri question.
Well, it's on to SITE for me now. Anyone have any advice??? Should I be
using Transcenders, Petri's (even though they didn't really help for
Server)??? I want to finish SITE and NetEss before I go on my month-long
vacation (next saturday). Any info would be great!
Well, good luck to all those that are still working their way towards an
MCSE!
-Dan

From: Dale M. Allen CNE, MCSE, MCP+I <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 7:33 PM
Subject: MS Exchange 70-081 is adaptive ???
Does anyone know if MS Exchange 70-081 is adaptive or not? How many
questions?
Dale

From: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: MOC 1400A as a guide to IEAK5
In article <[email protected]>,
odysseus <[email protected]> wrote:
I got a voucher for a free exam, so not wanting to waste it, I took on
IEAK5 as the first step towards upgrading to MCSE 2000. I spent only
three days preparing for the exam using primarily MOC 1400A, plus
1. occasional dips into resource kits to clear up some doubts
2. read through cramsession (too many unnecessary details)
3. play with IE and IEAK a lot
and passed with good score. Though many people opined that it is a
difficult exam, I personally feel that it is one of the easiest (right
behind NetEss and IIS).
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:10:41 GMT, [email protected]{spam}mpatico.ca (Ken
B) wrote:
Hi all.
Has anyone used the freely downloadable (which likely answers this question,
but it never hurts to ask) MOC 1400 to study for IEAK 5?
If so, is it usefull by itself (aside from experience and practice)
in order to study for the exam?
Thanks,
Ken
Maybe, but I would like to see you create a working package or cd distribution.
Greg Koontz
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From: Gabe <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: OOH SHEEET!!
Ok, Tom, yes, you are right, I think I've misunderstood at first.
Yes, NT does not have to be installed on a primary partition.
Since, in my own case, I've installed NT into drive C:, which is FAT 16.
Then, I installed Win98 into drive D:, which is later converted into FAT32.
So, that makes me bare in mind that NT only can be installed into drive C:,
which is also the primary partition.
Thanks for pointed out my mistakes. You've remind me things I've almost
forgot. Although I've earned the paper MCSE, but I don't really have a
good practical environment currently. At the moment, I'm a
software engineer, just graduated and got this job. One of the reason I
accept this programmer job is because of the pay. If I'm going to get a system
admin job, I think I won't get this pay, this is because I'm fresh. So, I chose to take
this job. So, after the above story, any opinions? Do I going a right way? or wrong?
By the way, I do have interest in both the programming and networking
stuffs.
"Tom Kelsall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
As far as I am aware, (Will someone else please come in here and back
one of us up?) Windows NT does NOT have to be installed on a primary
partition. Yes, it has to place some files on the SYSTEM partition,
which must (a) be a primary partition and (b) must be FAT16. The boot
partition, however, can be ANY kind of partition, using the FAT16 or
NTFS filing system... the BOOT partition is where Windows NT places the
majority of the operating system files and the \winnt directory; i.e.
this is where Windows NT is said to be "Installed".
So yes, I beleive you are still wrong.
Tom Kelsall HND MCSE
"Integer vitae scelerisque purus"
(Quintus Horatius Flaccus - Odes)
In article <ef3$#3PCAHA.250@cppssbbsa05>,
"Gabe" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, Tom
I didnt stated that windows NT CAN ONLY be installed on the C: Drive.
If u really read my post carefully, I was trying to suggest Josh that, if
only Josh convert his Drive C: into FAT16 before he is going to install NT4.
By the way, under NT environment, yes, we do can have more than 1 primary
partition and the maximum are 4 primary partitions. But, if we've installed
Win98 into Drive C:, there will be only 1 primary partition allow for the
harddisk under Win98.
In Josh case, he is trying to install NT4 into his Drive D:,
(remember, he'd installed Win98 in his Drive C:) which is not a primary
partition, so he
can't install NT4 into Drive D:. While NT4 can only be installed into
primary partition.
Anyway, this is my experience and point of view. Any opinions, please
free to point out to me, thanks. Or, I'm wrong, point it out to me.
"Tom Kelsall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Read the bit of your post that I left in... you clearly state that
Windows NT can ONLY be installed on the C: drive (the primary
partition). This is clearly incorrect.
Tom Kelsall HND MCSE
"Integer vitae scelerisque purus"
(Quintus Horatius Flaccus - Odes)
In article <#$h9mHLCAHA.248@cppssbbsa05>,
"Gabe" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, did you read my mail carefully?
What I meant is, the Drive C: is in FAT16.
Yeah, I do know NT support for FAT16 AND NTFS.
"Tom Kelsall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
You are quite wrong. Windows NT can be installed on any partition
you wish: but the SYSTEM PARTITION MUST BE FAT 16 OR NTFS, because
Windows NT puts it's initial boot files there (i.e. ntdetect.com,ntldr).
Tom Kelsall HND MCSE
"Integer vitae scelerisque purus"
(Quintus Horatius Flaccus - Odes)
snip
coz Winnt have to be installed into the
primary partition, that is Drive C:.
snip
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From: <[email protected]>
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:38 AM
Subject: SmartTrack Solutions UK - any comments on their training?
I'm thinking of doing some training with SmartTrack Solutions Ltd, a
company based at the Lea Valley Technopark in London.
If you've been trained by them I would appreciate hearing your comments
on this company and the quality of their training.
Thanks
Pete
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From: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: 70-240 prep questions !
In article <OiZzOOJCAHA.82@cppssbbsa04>,
"Sonic" <[email protected]> wrote:
Looking for 70-240 prep questions. Anyone with ideas where i can get
them ...
... FREE, much thanx.
Damien - France
Damien,
Troy Tech is going to have a study guide out next month for that test.
There site is Troytech.com they are not free but not to high..
THANKS!! Int3 MCP
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From: Brandon M. Wise
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Question(S)
Matt,
Firstly, congratulations.
Secondly, if you are referring to the MCSE+I then I wouldn't waste my time or
money. Microsoft is phasing out the MCSE+I certification with all the new
Windows 2000 stuff. However, if you are talking about the MCP+I, then if you
have a chance take it great -- if not I wouldn't worry about it.
$.02
Brandon M. Wise
Phorward Thinking, Inc.
http://www.phorward.com/
"Matt Ferry" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:d2Zk5.11611$H14.19217
@newsfeed.slurp.net...
Well I have to say...I'm done...Completed my MCSE today....
I moved right along with it...I just finished high school at the end of may....took all
six MCSE test and my A+ all in Last 68 days...
I am so glad that it is done...I plan now to get my +I....
Can anyone tell me more about:  iis, ie5, or the exchange tests????
And also...where is a good place to get a barebone system...Just one for t
hat I can install NT and Exchange on???
Then after the +I....what should I do....Linux or netware? OR BOTH
Thanks
Matt Ferry
A+, MCP, MCSE

From: Steve March <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: ? on 70-240
I emailed MS about that and they said it will still be good. Just because
you can no longer take the test after 2001 doesn't mean that it gets removed
from your transcript.  I'll be doing the same thing you are doing; take(I
hate saying 'write') my 240 exam in 2001, lose my MCSE status, and then get
it back in 2002.
Good Luck
Steve March, MCSE
"Craig E" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:On03IDw6$GA.88@cppssbbsa05...
I have my MCSE right now. Say for kicks I pass my 70-240, my two electives,
but don't have the time to pass one the 70-219/220/221 tests by 12/31/2001
Does the 70-240 become null and void? Do I now have to take 70-210/215/216/217?
Craig.

From: Greg Lara <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,alt.certification.mcse
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Last test: Exchange 5.5 or SMS 2.0?
Good point. I guess over the next few years, the number of companies who
will implement SMS will gradually decrease, while the number implementing
Win2k will increase.
That said, while I am interested in learning Win2k related technologies, I
feel like a NT 4.0 journeyman who is having the rug pulled out from under
him. The folks at Microsoft can be such idiots.
Greg L.
"news" <bruno.postiau|@cec.eu.int> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi,
I undestand your hesitation... One thing you should take into account is
that the two products have very different connections to windows 2000: the
exchange team was at the basement of the new platform, so if you know
exchange, you'll feel comfortable with the x500 structure and ldap query
language that is used by Active Directory (+ sites, replication...all things
that every administrator will have to use sooner or later).

From: BoB <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: Study advice?
net essentials is probably the easiest of all the mcse exams you are going to
undertake...
MCSE & CCNA BoB
D'Lane Reiswig wrote:
I just passed the 70-058 Networking Essentials exam, this was the first exam
I've written towards my MCSE.  Can anybody give me an idea of how hard the
other exams are by comparison so that I have a frame of reference to shape
my studying around?
Thanks.
D'Lane Reiswig

From: Marc Fischer <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.certification.mcse,microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: Proxy2 prep questions
Look on:
www.petri.co.il  (excellent free downloadable practice tests)
www.cramsession.com
www.mcmcse.com
www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices/default.asp
www.i386.com
http://www.braindumps.net/
Regards
Marc
Just Proxy 2.0 to, then MCSE......
"Lanta" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[email protected]...
Looking for Proxy2.0 prep questions. Anyone with ideas where i can get them
FREE, much thanx. Same would apply to Exchange5.5, and I am there people.

From: Amiri Jones <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.certification.mcse,microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse,microsoft.
public.certification.mcse
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: MCSE+I for Win2k Track ???
Yes.... at a minimum, any Windows 2000 MCSE worthy of the name will know
the basics of TCP/IP up, down, and sideways, because of Active Directory's
reliance upon the protocol.
Chris Hinners <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
MCSE+I who are not W2K upgraded will lose their MCSE. I've also heard that
the +I is being dropped because Internet skills are now considered a
prerequisite of being a Systems Engineer. Hope this helps clear it up for
you.
Chris.
"Sword Breaker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Microsoft has just added "Exam 70-227: Installing, Configuring, and
Administering Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server
2000" as a valid elective for the current MCSE+I requirements.  70-227 is
expected to be released in its beta version in December 2000.I have a
question : Is it true that MCSE+Is will remain certified after
Dec 31, 2001, while the MCSEs not upgraded to Win2k will lost their
qualification after that day?

From: Amiri Jones <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: 120 day evaluation for w2000?
Robert Storey <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected].
com...
Can you get a evaluation copy of server and prof with out buying the MS
w2k core pack?  It would be nice in order to study them hands on.
The core requirements Training Kit (ISBN 0-7356-1130-0), from Microsoft
Press, has both of them.  Indeed, that's the only publication I see from MS
Press that says it contains eval versions of the OSes; even the separate
Server and Professional kits don't include them!

From: Frank Booth <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: IIS as Test 6?
Scott,
I would not take IIS4 as an exam at all. If you are not currently working
with IIS (you say it has been a few years since administering it), and
considering IIS4 is scheduled for retirement, why take that particular exam?
I would choose an exam that may be a bit tougher, but is not scheduled for
retirement, and perhaps could benefit you in your current job - SQL 7 Admin,
Exchange Admin, something along those lines.
HTH.
Scott Daves <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:uzX4fziAAHA.255@cppssbbsa05...
Have completed NTWS, NTS, NTS E, going for TCP/IP and NE next so I have
one test left.  It's been years since I worked with SMS, SQL, Exch ... prob
know Exch best still.  So I am thinking of going for IIS ... besides the MCSE
it gives me an MCP+I too ... horray for more letters!  Again, I have
used/administered IIS 4.0 but it's been a few years ... however, I'm having
trouble finding prep books for IIS ... I've been using Sybex books for all
others but cannot find SYBEX on IIS ... in fact, only book I've found so far
is IIS for Dummies!
Thoughts?
Scott

From: Andrew F <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: "Hardest Exam"
Have sat for the first core and the order of complexity is as follows from
easiest to hardest.
NetEss, Ntws, Ntsvr, Ntenterprise
Regards,
Andrew

From: Jeff Cochran <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Which training is better....
I had someone give me information that I was hoping some of you could either
agree with or disagree with.
The information is this:
Online training first-try pass rate is a higher percentage from the
site-based pass rate due to the fact that the online training usually is
around 8 week and site-based training is 4-5 days in duration and the
material is condensed accordingly.
Does anyone have an opinion. Reason is that I am looking to start the 2000
tract and I am trying to weight the advantages. One advantage for on-site to
me is hands on. One advantage for on-line is more flexibility in training time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
This depends entirely on YOU.  Can you spend the time for classroom
training?  If you do online training will you actually stick to it?
Some people do better at one or the other, in varying degrees.  I know
one guy who never trains and has passed a dozen or more certification
exams.  I know several who sit through a week-long course, read the
books for a month every night, and still fail.
Jeff

From: Neil Hallam <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: NT4 enterprise adaptive or not?
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:11:35 -0400, "Mark Hatfield"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Bob, I was there, you were not.  At the beginning of the test, it clearly
stated that there would be 25 adaptive questions and then 10 fixed length
questions. It also stated that the test could end at any time.  What's the
conspiracy?  Why would Microsoft deliberately give wrong directions and then
"disguise" fixed length questions to look like adaptive questions?  To what
end?  What is the scam?  Some people have reported having as few as 15
questions and some people have reported having as many as 35 questions.
Seems consistent to me.  And come to think of it, who cares anyways?  What
is the point that you are trying to make because I am missing it ...
I passed Enterprise today and was expecting 10+15+10
but at the start of the test it said 25 adaptive followed by 10 straight
It also said that it may be 25 - 35 questions.
BTW I got kicked out after the 25 adaptive and scored 723, Any good?
Neil Hallam - [email protected]
http://www.web-shack.net

From: a <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: 2000 track changes?
I actually saw the same info (about it not expiring) on microsoft.com a
while back.  I had the page bookmarked and when I returned a few weeks to a
month later it was no longer a valid URL.  Yes it really existed but it no
longer does.  Interpret that however you choose.
"Jack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
You heard right, the certification does not expire until the end of
next year (but that is not new)
What I heard yesterday was that the MCSE certification was not expiring at
the end of 2001. Microsoft has decided to extend it 'indefinately'. But I
haven't been able to confirm this.

From: William Nipper <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: IEAK 5
Download the Deployment guides from here...
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ieak/en/corp/
"Jason J Paganessi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Does any one know of where you could find some books on this exam???? I am
haveing the hardest time trying to find anything on this exam.
Jason J Paganessi, MCP
JL Design
[email protected]

From: clipper2k <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: NT Enterprise
No questions about prediction network traffic and about how many frames and
bytes and puzzling in the cap files and the frame section ?
Scott Daves <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ezd95dK$$GA.195@cppssbbsa04...
Well I passed NTWS with 966 last week, NTS with 933 this week, on to
Enterprise.  Now the NTWS and NTS were regular tests but it appears from
this thread that E is adaptive.  Are there any adaptive samples out there?
What can I expect ... what are the hottest topics in E.
Thanks
Scott

From: clipper2k <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: Passed Server & Enterprise Today... next TCP/IP and Exchange
Congratulations !
Enterprise will be my next Exam. As a matter of  fact I'm preparing for it
right now.
I just got through unit 3 and getting very worried that I will have to
memorize how many frames and bytes each subprocess is taking.
Do you really have to know these facts by heart ? Please tell me what the
majority of questions concentrated on ...
After that, it's Exchange and then I'm finally mcse.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Whoopie!! Passed Server (933) and Enterprise (670) today....  my brain is
tired!  ONLY 2 MORE TO GO!
Anyway, I've decided to take Exchange as my 2nd elective... and this one
I'm teaching myself...
- minimal prior experience :(
I will be installing it this weekend @home in my lab.  Has anyone some good
books to recommend for me?  I decided to go exchange because I'm VERY
interested to learn it, and want an elective that applies to W2K -- This
will be fun!  Any ideas appreciated!!!
Jennie
MCP, A+

From: Dave Driggs <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: Sitting first Mcp...any advice?
Try to relax, take a deep breath to calm the jitters.  One thing I have
noticed about MS exams is that they will throw a real hard question right at
first to try to throw you off balance. If the exam is not adaptive just mark
the question and go on to the next question.  Answer the easier ones first and
go back to the hard ones.  This gives you time to calm down.  I get extremely
nervous doing these exams but I am still ten pass / zero fail!
Baron Samedi wrote:
Hi there, i'm sitting my first mcp in a weeks time 4-8-2000, i'll be doing
exam 70-067.
Just wondering if any of you people had any advice for me, only at present
i'm sh!tting meself. if you could send any useful tips to me at
[email protected]  it'd be greatly appreciated.
cheers
Baron Samedi

From: Thomas W. Shinder <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: books for mcse 2k
If you are doing the self-study route, I would recommend the following:
1. Syngress/Osborne Study Guides
2. Win2k Server and Professional Resource Kits
3. Stay AWAY from MS Press
The Syngress/Osborne study guides are true study guides. They have questions
at the end of the chapters, hint and tips, "From the Classroom" sections,
and a truly great CD-ROM. The CDs in the Win2k Study Guides are worth the
price of the book. That's really saying something since most CDs are totally
worthless.
You *must* get the Resource Kits for fact checking. They are also very
useful for when you want to get into the technical "nitty-gritty", although
they are not the place to start. You'll refer to the resource kits every day
as you work more and more with the operating system.
I recommend you RUN, not walk, away from the MS Press books. In spite of
them saying they are study guides, that don't take advantage of the tools or
methods that are used to provide good instruction. They are not written
clearly, there are no practice questions that will help you on the exam,
there is no CD-ROM with practice tests, movies and audio to help you prepare
for the exam. They are not even the MOC anymore, and are *much* weaker than
the MOC.
If you want to use Microsoft material, I highly recommend taking a class
that uses the MOC. They are truly excellent for the Win2k subjects. You get
what you pay for now when you take classes at a CTEC. The problem is, if you
are a newbie, CTECs are the worst place in the world for you to go. You
might want to check and see if you can buy the MOC from your local CTEC.
Most important of all, get Win2k, install it, and *use it* as your operating
system every day, all day. Do NOT go back and use 9x or NT. That is the only
way you're going to learn Win2k, and the varieties of its behaviors. Also,
when you study, never study while sitting in the dining room or on the
beach. You should always have your Win2k PRO or Server computer right in
front of you, so that you can check up on everything you read, and so you
can test things out as your read about them in the book.
Also VMWare is your best friend. Check them out a www.vmware.com
HTH,
Tom
www.tacteam.net

From: Stephen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: can anyone recommend good books?
I'v got the mspress core requirements, going through them now...I don't
think they're to bad.
"Michael Tang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:38F675F48B36D4118E4D00508B5EBA37FA5041@cpmsftmsgv21.microsoft.com...
Can anyone recommend a set of good books for MCSE W2K.  I was thinking
about MS MCSE Training Kit Core W2K?

From: Samuel <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Failed IIS, twice on the same day with the same score
Well that sucks REAL bad. Being that you failed twice within a 7 day period
you will have to wait 2 weeks before you can try again. Don't let it get you
down. I agree with Calvin, the transcenders are very helpful. Good luck to
you.
Samuel
"Koen&Beth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi
What exactly is the Integration and Interoperability section about?  Twice
I scored only 33% in that section.  I looked at the MS site and it mentioned
those ODBC errors & Index Server.  Well on both exams I had +/- 5 ODBC
errrors so do you have to get all of them right or you fail the exam??
Just asking because the average of the other sections combined is 72%.
And twice I scored 672, grrrr
Thanks
Koen
PS this was my first exam with no real experience except the excercises
from the study guide

From: Miguel Sierra <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:05 AM
Subject: Re: Why are children learning MCSE stuff?
MCSEs:
Why is everyone so concern about how high is my level, or how valuable is my
certification. It's all about what you know, now what the paper says you
know. I'm an MCSE, and I have never even put it under my name when I write
emails. The MCSE will get you the interview, and the job. It's your job
after to be as skilled as possible compared to the rest of the job market.
The whole problem with our field is that any kid can get our job. It's not
required to be a college graduate to get the job, or have 10 years of
experience. It's all about what you know. And if they know what you know,
then maybe you should learn something that they don't know. We should be
getting all the training possible for Windows 2000 instead of wasting our
time here. There are about 270,000 MCSEs out there. Instead of trying to
make the most money by knowing the least, trying making more money by
knowing the most.
The botton line is: STOP COMPLAINING!!!!!
Thank you,
Miguel.
"Dan Lukiw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I've been reading and seeing in many local high schools are here (and in
the US), that many high schoolers are being taught things like Windows
NT server and Networking stuff and even... get this... CISCO ROUTERS!!
Why are we teaching kids this stuff? I am a strong believer in making
high school kids go through college just like I did and learning that
stuff then. Giving this stuff to high school kids is too early of an age
for them.... and let's face it, they may eventually take that job I'm
looking for. What a crocked world we live in. Hell, I can't even get to
Cisco yet, let alone MCSE. They need to keep high school to the basic
stuff and keep the kids away from the computers. Any high schoolers on
this newsgroup?
-Dan-
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