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skewlboy
12/27/2000
01:45:07 |
 Subject: Anonymous checking
209.198.242.55--->
Message:
How do you check if a proxy is anonymous?
Use a cgi script in a webpage to tell client IP (proxy IP) and HTTP_X_FORWARDED environment var?
If this var is empty, it's anonymous, else, it isnt. Is it how you know it?
Thanks.
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Steve
12/27/2000
11:05:35 | RE: Anonymous checking
216.168.96.25--->
Message:
There can be other known fields like HTTP_CLIENT_IP or somesuch, or for that matter _any_
field that contain your IP address and/or computer name.
Some people prefer more anonymity and look for proxies that don't mention the fact that they are proxies, e.g. the VIA field or host name that have in it's name the words proxy, cache or similar.
The big QUESTION is why MP does not tell us what it considers anonymous. That info must be disclosed. I find cases where I do "test all" and some proxies show anon = no, yet if I test them individually some come back as anon = yes.
Not reassuring, IMHO
A good feature to have in MP is to set the level of anonymity beyond a must be alway "no IP or computername. Another good feature is to view the results of individual anonymity checks so you know what the proxy is returning without changing constantly the proxy and calling the envelope checks.
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Steve
12/27/2000
11:06:02 | RE: Anonymous checking
216.168.96.25--->
Message:
There can be other known fields like HTTP_CLIENT_IP or somesuch, or for that matter _any_
field that contain your IP address and/or computer name.
Some people prefer more anonymity and look for proxies that don't mention the fact that they are proxies, e.g. the VIA field or host name that have in it's name the words proxy, cache or similar.
The big QUESTION is why MP does not tell us what it considers anonymous. That info must be disclosed. I find cases where I do "test all" and some proxies show anon = no, yet if I test them individually some come back as anon = yes.
Not reassuring, IMHO
A good feature to have in MP is to set the level of anonymity beyond a must be alway "no IP or computername. Another good feature is to view the results of individual anonymity checks so you know what the proxy is returning without changing constantly the proxy and calling the envelope checks.
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Haggas
12/27/2000
22:48:42 | RE: Anonymous checking
209.240.224.226--->
Message:
All good suggestions. I wish the program's creator would show up here once in a while and contribute. The only time he seems to post is when someone insults him.
It would be nice to have an ongoing technical discussion about MultiProxy. That way we could get "under the hood" a bit, and better understand the program and it's limitations.
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Sentury
12/28/2000
06:25:11 | RE: Anonymous checking
84.134.50.149--->
Message:
This level of control is avaliable thru the Program "A4 Proxy " aka Anon4, a much more poweful product than Multiproxy. Collect Proxy IPs here, and check them thru A4 . Remember to customize your Active X and Java Permissions in your browser, I'd suggest setting to prompt before they run.The A4 website has links to some good IP detection sites, particularly the rental-web.com one.
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Sentury
12/28/2000
06:35:31 | RE: Anonymous checking
132.198.195.177--->
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A4 is avaliable for demo download at zdnet, download.com and the publisher's site, iNetPrivacy.com
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b0b
12/28/2000
09:04:29 | RE: Anonymous checking
212.219.39.131--->
Message:
Hello, everybody!
How Mproxy test anonymity?
With packet viewer (CommView, SpyNet) we can discover something interesting.
For example, my Mproxy - 127.0.0.1:8080, back-port - 8081,
proxy from proxylist - masterman.stc.ac.uk:80 (212 219.39.131:80).
Below - decoded Mproxy/Internet dialog:
packet "my_real_IP_addr:1098 => 212 219.39.131:80"
"GET http://my_real_IP_addr:8081/2200427476 HTTP/1.0
Host: none
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: close
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (Win98; U)"
packet "my_real_IP_addr:8081 <= 212 219.39.131:4045"
"GET /2200427476 HTTP/1.0
Via: 1.0 MASTERMAN
Connection: close
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (Win98; U)
Host: none
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: Keep-Alive"
packet "my_real_IP_addr:1098 <= 212 219.39.131:80"
"HTTP/1.0 502 Proxy Error ( Software caused connection to abort )
Via: 1.0 MASTERMAN
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
Proxy Reports:
10053 Software caused connection to abort
An error occurred while trying to retrieve your URL.
This error could have been caused by:Ba"
Suddenly Mproxy think:
Ou! masterman.stc.ac.uk:80 - working & anon!
Hmm...
But I must say MP potential more better than A4P
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Steve
12/28/2000
12:06:13 | RE: Anonymous checking
205.200.28.78--->
Message:
Actually, this shows it's working and anon. the error is becuse MP is lazy and just aborts the connection to the proxy after getting the first data.
here is what the proxy forward to another machine, this time it's on your machine
I don't see your real_ip :)
packet "my_real_IP_addr:8081 <= 212 219.39.131:4045"
"GET /2200427476 HTTP/1.0
Via: 1.0 MASTERMAN
Connection: close
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (Win98; U)
Host: none
Pragma: no-cache
Connection: Keep-Alive"
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b0b
12/30/2000
11:58:32 | RE: Anonymous checking
62.20.83.4--->
Message:
My "hmm..." above mean:
MP's anonymity (and working) checks hasn't defense against foolish cases.
When MP agrees off-line check and breaks proxylist - it is trifle.
Real trouble:
after MP v.0.8 only test anonymity is "connect back to my computer",
but MP absolutely ignores your ISP. As result - different check's errors,
"sos, all red!", "sos, no anon!", etc.
Little experiment with one of my ISP:
make minimum proxylist: masterman.stc.ac.uk:80, cache.nexicom.net:8080;
go to inet; "test all" => masterman = no-anon, nexicom = anon;
test individual => masterman = no-anon, nexicom = anon;
test individual some times => nexicom = no-anon too;
"test all" => masterman = no-anon, nexicom = anon again
(note: masterman, nexicom = really anon).
CommView show:
my ISP's ns server sometimes replaced remote proxies in check's dialog,
but I am not anon for my ISP...
Kernel: MP must recognize own ISP and know what to do with it;
or - include test anonymity via URL again.
Happy new year, MultiProxy!
Happy new year, everybody!
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Sweta
12/30/2000
15:23:29 | RE: Anonymous checking
212.44.60.50--->
Message:
bob, you are right
HNY!
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kero
1/02/2001
01:51:35 | RE: Anonymous checking
208.186.96.5--->
Message:
That is why I keep MP v0.8.
Else - MP v1.1 for http/ftp download.
Else - MP v1.1 for http/https anon browser.
All they work together well (tittle hex).
Happy New Year!
Want New smart MP
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kero
1/09/2001
22:45:23 | This Q like Phoenix...
207.159.125.2--->
Message:
This Q like Phoenix...
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S
1/10/2001
20:26:54 | RE: Anonymous checking
206.97.180.4--->
Message:
I have to add I leave the "Connect back" option unchecked. Before I did this, quite awhile ago now, MP would divulge my IP, or simply abort the connection. Why? I have no idea. But since I disabled "CB" I have maintained anonymity and connections, except of couse depending on the proxy being used, whether Java is enabled or not and the occasional OS crash (big Bill Gates hurrah here).
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K
1/11/2001
07:38:03 | RE: Anonymous checking
62.252.137.193--->
Message:
I'm still being detected by the anon checker and the proxy checker at http://www.all-nettools.com/pr.htm
What am i doing wrong? Any help would be greatfully received, and btw dont insult the author- this is freeware remember- i wish more people took the time to do this for dumbasses like me
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psh
1/11/2001
16:53:41 | RE: Anonymous checking
63.28.134.244--->
Message:
I'm glad that somebody finally said it... The author of this software HAS DISTRIBUTED IT FREELY, not profiting BY ANY MEANS, INCLUDING THE RECENTLY COMMON ADVERTISEMENT SPYWARE. WHEN YOU START PAYING HIS BILLS, THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A RIGHT TO BITCH. UNTIL THEN, YOU'VE GOT TWO CHOICES: BE A SUCKER, AND PAY FOR A4Proxy, WHICH CRASHES NORE THAN IT WORX; or the obvious, SHUT THE HELL UP! Sure... Let the guy know, if you find a bug, BUT INSULTS AND OFFENSIVE REMARKS ARE ABSOLUTELY UNCALLED FOR!!
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S
1/11/2001
21:28:46 | RE: Anonymous checking
204.196.123.2--->
Message:
Dear Mr. K:
Set all the protocols in your browser to localhost or 127.0.0.1. Set all the ports to 8088. Disable Java and Java Script in your browser. Do not enable the "Connect back" option in MP, just check the "Don't check" option and use www.rental-web.com/~azuma/cgi-bin/env.cgi to check for anonymity. If you are still transparent then either you have interference from another program or your browser is goofy. Try IE 5.01 or Opera 5.01. I'm using Opera alot now and it's great. Always remember to disable Java, and use WebWasher to block pop-ups and other ads. And now back to our feature presentation . . .
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Haggas
1/12/2001
00:12:24 | RE: psh
206.66.64.13--->
Message:
psh,
What is it about the word "motivation" that you don't understand? No one here is insulting Mishkin. Unfortunately, you are unable to calm yourself long enough to tell the difference.
My advice to you, sir, is to visit the following proxy checker, and click on the bottom link.
http://passthison.com/cu/
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K
1/12/2001
02:12:33 | RE: Anonymous checking
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Message:
Hi,
Thanks for advice- I actually got it working, sort of. Earlier posts and some people were saying that the application didnt actually check the proxys were anonymous all that successfully.
To investigate I went and used Advanced Administrive Tool's proxy checker (its shareware) to first check which proxys were anonymous. There were discrepancies between Mulitproxy and AAT. It was then just a question of trying out edited lists before importing to Multiproxy. Now i've got about 5 good, working proxys, (is this enough?), that beat any of the proxy checkers so far.
I sort of like Java and stuff, so maybe I should use an earlier version of Multiproxy thats had plenty of roadtesting?
I cant see how the guy isnt motivated- this site, the freeware, etc dont administer themselves y'know. Maybe the author is working on something new or perhaps there are marital difficulties? Maybe theyre sick? I dunno. Its his/her business. No point in having a go just cos they're not around 24/7.
Thanks for help everyone.
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Andy
1/12/2001
09:44:47 | RE: Anonymous checking
195.10.103.38--->
Message:
I have MP and use it all the time, I have done several anon checks and upto now have not seen my IP address,However I have a second Hard Drive which I have also installed MP on configured the same as the other. When Ichange Hard drives ( as in remove 1 and install the other) MP is tell me NO proxysare ANON yet they are anon on the other drive. Can anyone help please.
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DAR145
1/12/2001
13:17:11 | RE: Anonymous checking
206.30.165.8--->
Message:
Ooooh, did Little Pantywaist get upset? Poor Thing, run home to Mommie, were adults don't discuss real issues in a real way.
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S
1/12/2001
21:29:35 | RE: Anonymous checking
195.112.85.75--->
Message:
Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle!!!
Now how do I stop scripts from reading a desktop?
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S
1/12/2001
21:57:25 | RE: Anonymous checking
211.61.251.248--->
Message:
Yes, I could go to the trouble of turning on and off scripts, Active X, plug-ins and the rest every time I visit a webpage. But isn't there a program I can run at startup which will allow me to do the same thing with just one click? Or am I dreaming?
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