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A booming stock market, burgeoning corporate profits, and an
economy that seems unstoppable. So what's wrong with this
picture? Eamonn Fingleton's "In Praise of Hard Industries"
takes a contrarian view of America's new economy and warns
of the dangers of the postindustrial age. Amazon.com's
Business & Investing editor, Harry C. Edwards, recently
spoke with Fingleton about the distorted view that Americans
have of Japan and about the software industry in the U.S.

You can find "In Praise of Hard Industries" at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0395899680/entertainmentsit


Amazon.com: The picture of Japan that most Americans see is
that of a very sick economy. Typical of this view would be
Lester Thurow's when he writes, "Japan is the sickest
country on the Pacific Rim. Japan's crash occurred in 1990,
yet eight years later it has made no progress toward
recovery" (from "Building Wealth"). Your picture of the
Japanese economy is much different. What gives?

Eamonn Fingleton: What gives is that I have been in Tokyo
since 1985 and, therefore, have a big advantage over Lester
Thurow. Although I have the greatest respect for him, in
writing about Japan, he is a victim of what he reads in his
morning paper. The American press has imagined that because
Japanese stocks staged a 1929-style crash, the Japanese
economy should follow the American script of the 1930s. This
logic does not apply at all, because the Japanese economy is
so different. I was one of the few commentators who
predicted the crashes in both Japanese real estate and
stocks and I can therefore claim to understand what has been
going on better than most. The truth is that although a
tiny, if highly visible, minority of previously plutocratic
Japanese citizens has been impoverished by the financial
turmoil, the vast bulk of Japanese people have never had it
so good. Just look at the quality of the cars on the roads
in Japan these days. Look at how many more Japanese citizens
are taking foreign vacations these days. The numbers are up
nearly 70 percent since the 1980s. The American press
ignores all the real numbers on Japan. As the Economic
Policy Institute economists John Schmitt and Lawrence Mishel
have pointed out, in the first eight years of the 1990s,
per-capita gross domestic product actually grew faster in
Japan than in the supposedly booming United States.

Amazon.com: The subtitle of your last book, "Blindside," was
"Why Japan Is Still on Track to Overtake the U.S. by the
Year 2000." Do you stand behind this prediction, and, if so,
in what ways will Japan overtake the U.S.?

Fingleton: As conventionally defined, an economy's size is
its total output converted at current exchange rates. Thus,
on a conventional view, the dollar would have to fall to
around 70 yen for my prediction to be fulfilled. Although I
am strongly bearish about the dollar over the longer term, I
doubt we will see a move on this scale so quickly. That
said, on several other measures of economic clout, many of
them more important than this conventional yardstick, Japan
has indeed passed the United States. Take savings. In 1997,
the latest year available to us, Japan accounted for more
than one-third of the OECD area's savings. By contrast, the
United States accounted for less than one-quarter. Japan
has now also passed the United States in net exports, that
is, exports netted for imported content. Perhaps the most
stunning way in which the United States has lost ground to
Japan in recent years has been in the ability to project
economic power abroad. On the IMF's figures, Japan increased
its net overseas assets from $294 billion to $891 billion in
the first seven years of the 1990s. The story for the United
States was very different. The United States, of course, no
longer has net foreign assets but rather net foreign
liabilities. And these ballooned from $71 billion to $831
billion in the first seven years of the 1990s. These figures
are of profound historic importance, yet, as far as I know,
not a single American media organization has noticed them.

Amazon.com: You view the software industry as the
quintessential postindustrial business and yet find its
growth prospects in this country vastly overrated. Why?

Fingleton: There is no doubt software has grown enormously
in recent decades. What concerns me is the industry's
ability to export. American software exports are quite
disappointing, given the industry's size. The industry's
export prowess has been seriously impaired by foreign
piracy, among several other things. Another reservation I
have concerns the long-term outlook for American software
wages. Software is a very labor-intensive industry, and with
the plummeting of international telecommunications costs in
recent years, American software companies are beginning to
shift jobs to low-wage countries such as India, Russia, and
even China. It is notable that Japan has made little effort
to develop its software industry in recent years, and the
reason is that the Japanese realize that a high-wage economy
has a much better chance of retaining and enhancing its
international competitiveness if it emphasizes manufacturing
rather than postindustrial businesses. The reason is that
manufacturing, at least the sort of manufacturing the
Japanese do, is highly capital-intensive, and in
capital-intensive industries, a high-wage economy can enjoy
huge productivity advantages that enable it to pay
ultra-high wages and still dominate world markets.

Amazon.com: You're not very kind to the financial-services
industry in this country. You call it the cuckoo in the
economy's nest.

Fingleton: In a previous life, I worked on Wall Street, so I
know that the vast majority of Wall Street people are decent
and well intentioned. But Wall Street is one of the key
ideological mainsprings of the complacency that has
persuaded the United States to acquiesce in the wasting away
of its once world-beating manufacturing prowess. I am also
critical of Wall Street for the explosion in financial
activity that has followed deregulation. Take the many new
financial instruments that have been invented in recent
years. As Warren Buffett has pointed out, their main effect
is to tempt people to speculate, and, therefore, in general
they serve little or no purpose other than to line Wall
Street's pockets.

Amazon.com: What about the valuations in the U.S. market. Do
you see a big shakeout coming?

Fingleton: U.S. stock market valuations are very high.
Although I would not rule out at least one more upward leg
to the boom, anyone investing at these levels will be
disappointed with the performance over the longer term. That
said, I am not among those who are predicting a Tokyo-style
crash for Wall Street. My guess is that any landing will be
a soft one and there is still plenty to go for, among
certain small-cap stocks.


The full text of Amazon.com's interview with Eamonn
Fingleton is at
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