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My correspondence With Sen. Patty Murray (D-Washington) On The Constitutional Marriage Amendment

"Tolerance is a virtue of a man without convictions." G.K.Chesterton
"To educate a man in mind, and not in morals, is to educate a menace to society" Teddy Roosevelt

Date: 2003-2004
I wrote an email to Sen. Patty Murray, asking her to vote for the Constitutional Marriage Amendment. Below is the replies from her, then my reply on the issue. I think her stance on this issue is wrong and so I thought many of you would be interested in our correspondence.

SEN. MURRAY'S REPLY TO MY EMAIL:

Dear XXX:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the "federal marriage amendment". I am glad to know your views on this matter.

In 1996 the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was enacted into law. DOMA created the first federal definition of marriage: one woman and one man. This law also lets states choose whether to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. In addition, 38 states--including Washington--have passed equivalents of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

Vermont allows gay and lesbian couples to register for civil unions, while California, Connecticut, the District of Columbia, Hawaii and New Jersey have limited domestic partnership statutes. On November 18, 2003, Massachusetts' highest court ruled 4-3 in Goodridge et al. v. Department of Public Health that under that state's constitution, same-sex couples may not be denied the right to obtain civil marriage licenses. This ruling does not affect the right of religious organizations to decide what rituals they perform for whom. The Court gave the Governor and the Legislature 180 days to enact legislation complying with this decision.

There are ongoing efforts in Massachusetts to amend the state constitution to effectively reverse the Court's decision. Alaska and Hawaii chose to do so when their highest courts ruled that same-sex couples had a right to marry. However, the Massachusetts Constitution takes at least 3 years to amend, so a similar amendment could not be ratified before late 2006. On May 17, 2004, Massachusetts became the first state to issue state-sanctioned marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Legal challenges to state and federal DOMA laws are likely to develop, as are cases involving American gay and lesbian couples who have obtained marriage licenses in the Canadian provinces of British Columbia and Ontario.

In the U.S. House of Representatives, Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO) has introduced H. J. Res. 56, a resolution which would amend the U.S. Constitution to require that all marriages be comprised of one woman and one man. In the Senate, Wayne Allard (R-CO) has introduced two similar resolutions which are pending in the Judiciary Committee.

While I do not serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee, I would oppose these resolutions if the Senate considered them. Amending the Constitution is a serious step--one we have taken just 27 times in the 215 years since the Constitution was ratified and 17 times since the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791. With the exception of prohibition, which was repealed 14 years later, the Bill of Rights has never been amended to restrict our rights.

The Constitution leaves marriage to be regulated by the states rather than the federal government. The states set rules and requirements governing civil marriage, while the Constitution's "full faith and credit" clause guarantees that marriages and many other functions such as contracts, divorces and drivers' licenses valid in one state must be recognized by all states. In due time, the courts will fulfill their intended role by ruling on this clause and its bearing on the constitutionality of state and federal DOMA laws.

America is a strong nation, and our diversity only makes us stronger. But if we are to remain so, we cannot afford to waste time or energy dividing and conquering each other. Our nation will be best off when we appreciate each other's differences and treat all Americans with respect and dignity. By understanding our differences, we also learn that
we are very much the same. (emphasis TruthSavvy's)

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to call on me in the future if I can be of assistance.

Sincerely,

Patty Murray
United States Senator

MY ANSWER TO HER REPLY:

Thanks for your reply, Ms Murray,

I am aware that you voted AGAINST this Amendment, Ms Murray. We have the list of all who refused to support it.

As Ms Cantwell, I bet you also were one of those that tried your damnest to get the ERA ratified in the 70's through Constitutional Amendment. Let's check your record, shall we! You liberals have one agenda and that is to strip America clean of everything that is decent and moral.

I suggest you ready yourself, Ms Murray, to protect the rights to "marriage" of the "by-sexuals", polygamists, pedophiles and incest perverts too. After all, they are only "different" in your mind's eye, and should be to all the rest of us. Shall we have state by state intractable "carte blanche" marriage union decisions by activist judges?

American's motivation should be the defense of marriage (between a man and a woman), the well-being of children with a mother and a father, and a desire to prevent unelected activits judges from amending the constitution from the bench. And that is exactly what they plan on doing and you know it.

Because of you and your democrat liberal buddies, America took the first step in deciding who gets to define marriage for the entire nation, activist judges, or the American people. By your reply, it is obvious that you and your liberal cohorts are willing to let an activist liberal judge change history and the morality in this nation.

Your vote against the amendment meant you are willing to allow activist judges to make the decision for me.

You say "America is a strong nation, and our diversity only makes us stronger. But if we are to remain so, we cannot afford to waste time or energy dividing and conquering each other. Our nation will be best off when we appreciate each other's differences and treat all Americans with respect and dignity. By understanding our differences, we also learn that we are very much the same."

Ms Murray, America IS a strong nation and it hasn't been our "diversity" that has made her strong or "stronger". I can afford to "waste time" (as you call) to save America from radical leftists, such as yourself, when it means our traditions are being destroyed. We do not accept or elevate the homosexual lifestyle as respectable and/or dignified.

What you must not understand, Ms Murray, is we (the majority) do not wish to appreciate each other's differences when it comes to perverted lifestyles that are being shoved down our throats and redefining what this country stands for (which, may I add, is not perversion or degenerate behavior).

We well understand these differences, Ms Murray and I can assure you,
WE ARE NOT THE SAME! No matter how hard you and your liberal cohorts try to make us the same, WE ARE NOT!

I am also aware, Ms Murray, that in 1996 the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was enacted into law. Many thought the issue was settled once and for all, but, again, liberal activist judges, (this time in Massachusetts), took power away from the people of that state and declared same-sex marriage legal. Other activist officials started thwarting the will of the people and breaking the laws in their states and began issuing same-sex licenses. Homosexual couples from many states traveled to Massachusetts to be "married" and mayhem has been the result.

However, one state's action can have serious and far-reaching implications for other states, particularly because our Constitution requires states to give full faith and credit to the laws of other states.

The recent decision by an activist Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, mandating same-sex marriage, threatens to overturn DOMA nationwide and effectively make that single state's marriage policy the law of our entire country.

This constitutional marriage amendment is favored by a heavy majority of the country. But it only takes one perverted unelected judge in a state, to slap and spit upon something we hold as sacred.

American citizens well understand what's at stake here. Marriage has meant one man and one woman in every successful nation on Earth since the beginning of mankind. Marriage is about propagating not just the human race, but also the values of a society, the difference between right and wrong.

As far as your lesson given in your reply on our Constitution and it's Amendment history, I am very well aware of what our Constitution says and which Amendments have been ratified.

You claim that "amending the Constitution is a serious step--one we have taken just 27 times in the 215 years."

May I say, it is a more serious step to allow activist judges dictating from their bench, and re-defining marriage for the entire nation.

Unfortunately, we've now reached the time (thanks to these activist judges) where the only way (I repeat) the only way to protect traditional marriage and traditional civil society as we know it, is to pass a constitutional marriage amendment defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

I, as well as the majority of Americans, refuse to accept the gay and homosexual "lifestyle" as a "racial issue" or some glorified or acceptable "civil union", let alone, equal with marriage between a man and a woman.

America is not socialist Canada and we do not choose to send our nation down the slippery-slopes of sexual perversion decay. Aberrant or deviant sexual behavior is not acceptable.

You also claim "This ruling does not affect the right of religious organizations to decide what rituals they perform for whom."

If you truly believe this, Ms Murray, I have a bridge I would like to sell you in the mohave desert. It astounds me how you liberals think that most Americans are stupid or ignorant. That statement is an insult to every intelligent, sensible American.

I am aware of these states that have radical activist judges that are hell-bent on forcing their arbitrary will by court order without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives.

The enormous and brazen damage that activist judges have inflicted on America is outragous. The judicial oligarchy is not dictating virtue but enforcing a new ideology that is brazen "lifestyle" socialism.

America has suffered a "coup d'etat" from the men and women in black robes who have changed us from the rule of law to the rule of judges with the Senate's blessings.

These courts and representatives such as yourself Ms Murray, are busy designing a Constitution for a country most Americans do not recognize or will accept.

You leftist representatiaves and these activist judges see your mission, not as upholding our Constitution, but as a redefining force to coerce new behaviors on what you consider a barbarian majority motivated by bigotry, racism, sexism, xenophobia, irrational sexual morality, and the like.

You are the enemy of traditional values in this country and we need to use the constitutional process to rememdy the problem.

Also, thanks for your lessons on what is happening in Mass. and across our land and on constitutional ratification and Bill of Rights radification history. I am cognizant of the history of our Constitution, the Bill of Rights and their ratification, as well as Massachusetts' decision by these liberal judges Ms Murray and do not need your assistance in lessons on our history or any current events. I'm very astute as to what is happening.

You must understand one thing Ms Murray, we won't forget your vote and your stand on this issue when we go to the voting polls in November.

Signed

LAST REPLY FROM SEN. PATTY MURRAY:


Dear XXX:

I realize that we disagree about the Federal Marriage Amendment. I know your views on this issue are powerful and deeply felt, and please know that I respect your views.

As a United States Senator, I represent all Washingtonians, including those with whom I disagree. Sometimes I cast votes that are unpopular with certain constituents; it is the nature of democracy that the people of Washington state, and the nation, will be divided on some issues.

This does not mean that I take your concerns lightly. On the contrary, I believe it is with those whom we disagree we must pay particular attention. It is important to have our assumptions challenged. I know of no other way to ensure that opinions are based on fact and principle. Still, it is often true that at the end of the day, reasonable people will come to different conclusions about the issues which challenge our nation. Not everyone will always agree with me, but Washingtonians should expect me to listen to their concerns and to be honest and straightforward with my answers.

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please stay in touch.

Sincerely,

Patty Murray
United States Senator



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