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The Bottom Line The Honorary Michael Granieri Guest Post Page posted 3:15 pm on 2/8/06 by Ross Weiner Bauer and Clemens: How do they Connect? As an avid 24 fan, I, along with every other male in the viewing population have developed quite a man crush on Jack Bauer. Is there anything he cannot do? Bauer is as resourceful as MacGyver, as compassionate as Gandhi (when he has to be), and as feisty as Eric Schauer when you tell him after 12 beers that perhaps a 13th is not in his best interest. Jack has recently returned from the dead, back for an action-packed fifth season of 24. In related news (at least to me), stories have come out this week that the Red Sox are planning a big PR push in an attempt to lure Roger Clemens back to Boston, for all the sentimentality that will ensue. One more victory pitching for the Sox will push the Rocket past Cy Young as the franchise’s leader in career wins. Closing out his career with a championship, pitching for the team where it all began…well, I guess aside from Jerome Bettis, that’s as storybook as it gets. Where am I going with all this? This past week’s episode of 24, which featured the lingering question of how Jack will break the news that, “Surprise! I’m alive!” to his daughter, coupled with the latest news on Roger got me thinking: How do Bauer and Clemens connect? Jack Bauer’s life is complicated. Of course, according to the latest joke being circulated in an email, “When life gave Jack Bauer lemons, he used them to kill terrorists. Jack Bauer fucking hates lemonade.” His fake death at the end of Season 4, along with his somewhat corny departure into the sunset, led fans to wonder 1) how would he return in any capacity to once again save the world, and 2) did everyone believe that he was dead? And by everyone, I mean his girlfriend, Audrey Raines, and his daughter, Kim (the naughty Elisha Cuthbert, who over the course of four seasons made more bad decisions than the executives of Enron). These questions were quickly answered in the premiere of season 5, as President Palmer was assassinated, team Tony and Michelle was quickly dispensed with (by the way, Tony will be back working at CTU in five hours…that’s a guarantee), and Bauer was once again on the prowl, covertly teaming with Chloe, queen of the awkward conversation. Despite the fact that 24 fans everywhere were thrilled that 24 was finally back on, the question in my mind was how would those around Jack react to the fact that he was very much alive. To say Clemens’ relationship with Sox fans has been tumultuous, well, that’s like saying O.J. and Nicole had a few problems during their marriage. After striking out 20 against the Tigers in 1986 and leading the Sox to the precipice of a championship (only to controversially ask out in the seventh inning of game 6 of the 1986 World Series), the flame-thrower from Texas endeared himself to Sox fans with his grit, work ethic, determination and stunning velocity. While I could recap his entire career, I’d rather skip ahead to the important stuff. From 1993 to 1996, Clemens posted a win-loss record of 40-39 for Boston, which led to the Sox not re-signing him and caused Dan Duquette to utter the immortal words that the Rocket was “in the twilight of his career.” Roger bolted north of the border to Toronto to be closer to his family in Texas (it wasn’t about the money…right), where after two remarkable Cy Young winning seasons, he orchestrated a trade that led him to the Yankees. It was there that he not only won his elusive championship(s), but also stomped on Sox fans’ hearts as we had to endure more nauseating images along the lines of Wade Boggs’ horse ride.
Clearly, this is the kind of thing that can sour a fan base on a player. In 1999, game 3 of the ALCS featured the much anticipated match up of Clemens vs. Martinez, old ace vs. new ace, in perhaps the most electric game Fenway Park had ever seen (I can gladly report that games 4 and 5 of the 2004 ALCS are now atop that list). During the game, Clemens was shelled, Martinez was brilliant, and the Sox fans lets Roger have it. Oh did they let him have it. Chants of “Rogggggggggggggger, Roggggggggggggger” began during warm-ups and only got louder as the game, and rout, progressed. Clemens was pulled after two-plus innings, giving up 5 runs on 6 hits in perhaps the most disappointing start of his career. This would be the only game the Sox would win in the series, eventually going down in 5. The verbal abuse heaped down upon Roger, along with his wife in the stands, led any rational thinking human to the conclusion that Clemens would never come back to Boston. Talk of his return was displaced by hypothetical arguments over which cap would one day adorn his Cooperstown plaque. Fast forward seven years and it appears his return is more than just a remote possibility. As for Jack Bauer, well, make no mistake about it, he is back in full force. If you are Kim Bauer, or a Red Sox fan, how are you to react to the news of such returns? While both Jack and Roger have had storied careers, Bauer is a good man and Clemens is a bad one; having said that, shouldn’t they both be entitled to happy endings? At first glance, it appears that the time heals all wounds cliché would apply, and both Kim and Sox fans would be ecstatic to have either man return. But take a closer look, and I believe this mirage will dissipate before your very eyes. Kim has suffered the loss of her mother at the hands of Nina Myers, Jack’s nemesis and, ahem, one-time mistress. Her fiancé and now husband Chase lost an arm working for Jack at CTU (no worries…it was re-attached), and Kim’s life has been enriched by enough stress to make John McCain’s time as a POW appear soothing. She no doubt grieved for her father for weeks and months, and even now still feels the emptiness of never getting to say goodbye. There’s also lingering bitterness in that her father consistently put his country first and his family second, forcing himself to make tough concessions, time after time. Do you think she really wants him back? Red Sox fans came to the conclusion that Roger Clemens was a bad, bad, bad man. He left town for the money. He went to the Evil Empire. He finally got in shape after leaving Boston. Sports Guy dubbed him the antichrist in perhaps the best piece of his career. Here’s a sampling: Put it this way: Watching Clemens lighting it up in Canada was like breaking up with your girlfriend, then watching her hire a personal trainer, shed 15 pounds, spend 10 Gs on a boob job and join the cast of "Baywatch."…We felt jilted, we felt used and we started rooting against him. Vehemently. Having said all this, do we as Red Sox fans, or Kim Bauer as Jack’s daughter, really want to re-write the endings? My answer is a resounding “no.” Clemens cannot, in my opinion, just prance back into town, commanding 18 million for half a season, and win back his place in the hearts and minds of Boston sports fans. He gave up this right when he left for Toronto, and if the door was even remotely open after this, he slammed it shut when he demanded and received a trade to the Yankees. Clemens isn’t one of us. In fact, the man has been eerily consistent throughout his career in being exactly what the U.S. government would like its soldiers to be, “An army of one.” The man will be 44, is prone to injury, and has made his bed- now it’s time for him to lay in it. As for Bauer, well, his situation is a little more complicated. The sentimentalists among us are hoping for a happy reunion, if nothing else to get Kim Bauer back on screen and displace Chloe as 24’s built-in sex appeal. However, this is not realistic. Jack will always be better off without any attachments, if for no other reason than it will let him do his job more effectively. He has put Kim through enough, and a “Surprise, I’m still alive!” call will do nothing but postpone the inevitable of a time when Jack really will be felled by terrorists (as unlikely as it seems). He has been forced to make sacrifices throughout his career, and faking his own death on behalf of his country was no doubt the biggest. But do not forget, Jack made these decisions and he must live with them. While it’s hard for me to say this, I believe it’s in Jack’s best interest to allow Kim to continue to believe he is dead, and once again, after this latest threat is over, to retreat somewhere (perhaps with Audrey) and start anew. Bauer and Clemens. Clemens and Bauer. Both men of greatness, perhaps even the best ever at what they each do. Both have made decisions, both must deal with the consequences. posted 8:38 am on 2/3/06 by Ted Rossman T.R. says the Broncos need T.O. Hey guys, love the site. As the current host of "The Bottom Line," I
thought it was time I chimed in. As a devoted Denver Broncos fan, I want the
team to sign Terrell Owens. Yes, that's right, Mr. Controversy himself,
Terrell Owens. Here's why: posted 3:26 pm on 2/1/06 by Matt Marek Sex or Augusta Response First off, thanks to all the bottomlineguys.com contributors. While I often do not agree with all your sentiments on every topic, reading the site is much more interesting than a lot of what's out on the internet today (I know thats a backhanded compliment, but that's the best you'll get from me). If I wasn't stuck in the white collar sweatshop known as "public accounting busy season," I think I would be a semi-regular guest poster. On to the current matter at hand...
Both these questions reminded me of a classic Seinfeld episode (George and
Elaine stop having sex with their respective partners; George becomes smart,
and Elaine becomes stupid).
George's girlfriend: So the hospital called, turns out some stupid intern
screwed up my test. I never had mono. So we can... you know.
@ Monk's Coffee Shop Jerry: So what did you do? I thought about the no sex for a year v. Augusta tee time for about 30 seconds before coming to my answer: Amen Corner, here I come. And after 15 minutes of reflection on my decision, I'm surprised I took that long to pick Augusta.
As much as I hate to admit it, I am much like George Costanza in this
particular episode. I generally think I'm smarter that about 98.5% of the
population, and while I don't have any specific evidence, George's final line
above is somewhat applicable to the current situation I'm in with the ladies.
Also, I love golf. I can think of no better way to spend 4 hours with 3
friends then on a golf course. Not only do I love playing, I just enjoy being
around the game. I spent many summers as a kid working on or around golf
courses. Finally, Augusta is my favorite golf course. I've never been there,
but its my favorite. Augusta is timeless. Men are referred to as 'sir' and
women 'miss.' It's the only major held on the same course every year. And
say what you will about March Madness, spring training, etc...spring never
really begins, and it never really gets warm until I see those azaleas on that
special weekend in April.
Even the Masters broadcast is special. I know every inch of the back 9, just
by watching each year. They only have like 3 minutes of commercials per hour
of broadcast time. The course is in phenominal condition. Its historic. You
get a lifetime exemption into the tourney if you win. Augusta is exclusive.
Its the most expensive ticket in sports. Bill Gates had to wait several years
to be offered a membership. They have a par 3 course on the property. Fans
are called 'patrons'. I could go on, but you get the picture.
By now you can probably guess it wouldn't take that much money for me to not
have sex for a year. I'd probably take do it for about $1,000. That can fund
a really solid weekend in Vegas. Basically, I agree with Mr. Clarin's classic
expected value analysis...if the probability of an event is low enough, any
amount over $0 is significant. You figure out the rest.
posted 3:26 pm on 1/30/06 by Ross Weiner The Boston Sports Update (in case you don't watch ESPN) So I’m sitting here in my office, bored out of my mind, currently in the middle of a two hour sexual harassment training session (via webcast/conference call) that is more humorous than informational. The truth is, I’ve spent the entire time thinking about what Michael Scott would say during this presentation. Rather than contemplating “Is this or is this not harassment,” I keep pondering what the most awkward thing possible would be to blurt out. Alas, my phone is on mute and I haven’t said a single word since it began. Since the capital of the sports world is no doubt Boston, Massachusetts (along with the capital of liberal senators who are borderline incompetent), I thought that perhaps a guest column out of a card-carrying member of Red Sox nation might be appreciated, to at the very least stem the tide of all the White Sox praising, Gwen Stefani gawking, and NBA talk that dominates this board. (Note: I’m not a Patriots fan. My Giants were decimated by the Panthers, with Eli Manning scribing the first chapter of his new novel, Why It Sucks That the Peyton Manning Face Is Genetic.) In breaking news, the prodigal son is returning! No, this does not mean Greg Smith is moving back to Chicago. This was one of the headlines in response to Theo’s decision to come back to the Red Sox (despite never really leaving). What do I think about this? How about, “Who cares?” To be honest, the organization didn’t miss a beat when he left. What everyone fails to understand is that they have gotten much stronger this off-season. Getting Josh Beckett, a potential ace who will fall under the tutelage of Curt Schilling, is a fantastic move. Ridding themselves of Renteria, who as I can attest to (he was my second round fantasy pick last year in perhaps the worst drafting decision this side of the Pistons taking Darko) was absolutely horrendous in 2005. Picking up Mark Loretta, an OBP machine who has had some big years, will give the Sox one of the best second basemen in the American League. Plus, signing Seanez and Tavarez (yes, a registered nutcase, but a lot of, um, upside) will definitely strengthen the bullpen (the worst in baseball last year). Don’t get me wrong. I heart Theo and what he’s done with and for the Sox, but his leaving, the soap opera that ensued, and now his return have been way overblown. This is something that should/could have been taken care of in-house, and the fact that the entire episode played out in the media was bad for the Red Sox PR (maybe Schauer could help them), but not necessarily for the Red Sox themselves. As it turns out, this might be the best thing that could have transpired, as by all accounts, the organization has righted the ship and is now back on course. Lastly, and obviously the most controversial move, was the departure of Johnny Damon to the Yankees (Jesus to the Evil Empire? Sounds like Jewish propaganda). “How could this happen?” the people of Boston cried out. Athletes are sell outs…where’s the loyalty…this is because Theo left…the Sox are in shambles. These were some of the utterances heard on WEEI. Make no mistake about it, the Red Sox made a conscientious decision to let Johnny Damon go, much like they did with Pedro a year earlier. They made a below market but substantial offer in order to appease the fan base, but have no doubt, the decision to let Damon walk was made long ago. Take a look here:
Not an enormous difference, right? Now, take into account that player A is 26 and entering his prime, while player B is 33 and exiting his prime. Player A will be making approximately 20 million over the next four years. Player B will be making 52 million. The decision doesn’t seem so crazy now, does it? In fact, the papers here are now stating that the Sox have been scouting Crisp (player A) since September, and this is really the heart of their new “vision,” which is just another way of saying that they will be using their high payroll to always be competitive, yet at the same time keeping an eye out for the future, to avoid the pitfalls that the Yankees have tripped over of late. While the State of the Union is a big question mark (thanks President Bush), have no fear, the state of the Red Sox is in the words of Greg Focker, “strong to quite strong.” In other Boston sports news, the Celtics made a big deal, ridding themselves of an albatross of a contract (6 years and 40 million for the incomparable Mark Blount), and getting Long Island’s own Wally _________iak for Ricky Davis. First, Boston loves white basketball players. This is a fact. Cousy, Heinsohn, Bird, McHale, Ainge and of course Brian Scalabrine come to mind. So, perhaps there were some racial considerations taken into account. Second, and this is the down side, Ricky Davis was Boston’s most electric player (not it’s best player…but most electric). He has an infectious smile, is a high flyer, and despite the fact that the C’s are a very mediocre team, he was a bright spot and someone who was a lot of fun to watch. Now he’s gone. I guess we shall see how this trade works out, but let’s just hope Wally’s World doesn’t start fighting with Paul Pierce, because the last thing we need is for Pierce to bring back the Nomar face (aka Nomar grimace), that was a fixture last year. Lastly, apparently there is a team playing at the Fleetcenter/Garden that is called “the Bruins.” I don’t know much about this team (I’ve steadfastly refused to follow hockey since my beloved Whalers left Hartford in 1997), but I can tell you this much: sometimes my buddies and I play poker at a friend’s apartment next to the Garden. Sometimes we play on nights when there are Bruins home games taking place. It’s never hard to find street parking even on these nights. My guess is that this is indicative of low attendance (at Bruins games…not our poker game). Hockey has become almost a minor league sport here in Boston and is covered as such. Amazingly, there are more columns written in the Globe and Herald on the Red Sox (in the off-season) than the Bruins (in-season). All this goes to show you, you can take the Whale out of Hartford but you can’t put people in the seats in Boston. Actually, that doesn’t make sense, but it makes me feel better to think they’re related.
posted 8:46 am on 1/30/06 by Mike Granieri Nash and Alton - Greatest Duo Ever? Yes. I am writing a column again since being relegated to the generic “GUEST POST” status. It has been a tough week since finding out my new position on the bottom line – I almost secluded myself in my apartment with cartons of cheap cigarettes and handles of Jack Daniels. Think Waylon Smithers after he thought he shot Mr. Burns. Fortunately, I chose the path less traveled and have some new topics to write about. Enjoy. My Steve Nash for MVP prediction looks pretty good right about now. Not only do many experts agree that Steven Nash has a more convincing case than last year but there really aren’t other great options. You can’t take anybody from the Pistons because they all dilute each others’ value. Tim Duncan is too boring. Elton Brand’s Clippers have struggled. Kobe Bryant hogs the ball so we have no real idea if his team could or would be better if he decided to get the most out of a talented Lamar Odom. We do have definitive proof that Steve Nash gets the most out of his teammates. Look at the attrition from last year to this year. No Amare. No JJ. No Q. In come Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, James Jones, Eddie House and Kurt Thomas. Somehow they all have career years (except KT because he doesn’t log enough minutes) and the Suns are 28-15 with the fourth best record in the league. With Steve Nash and Shawn Marion. This is such an impressive performance not only by Steve Nash but also by Mike D’Antoni for recognizing the strengths and weakness of his players and implementing a system that maximizes the strengths. All right, enough of this, on to the fun stuff. After Kobe’s 81 pt. outburst people debated whether it was the best individual performance in sports. Obviously these pundits do not watch The Gauntlet on MTV. Alton’s performances have all trumped Kobe’s. You want to talk about dominance – watch Alton carry a rickshaw around a track in 50 seconds. The big debate should be whether Alton is the best fantasy reality star ever to compete – a combination of Shawn “the matrix” Marion and Andrei Kirilenko – or are his performances in the Gauntlet the single most dominating performances ever? I will take the view of “point” on this issue and argue that his performances in the Gauntlet are the most dominating in the history of sports – professional or reality. Alton’s first foray into the Gauntlet was against a “fired up” Danny in the Sand Pit duel. Keep in mind they both were greased up at this point which probably gives Danny a natural edge. OK. So Danny enters the Gauntlet quite confident and within one second Alton tosses him out of the ring. And then again. Down 2-0 Danny reverts to the famed “crab move” which Timmy aptly describes as “It’s the crab --- YOU CAN’T BEAT THE CRAB!” Well, Alton disposes of Danny 3-0 which is the equivalent of doggy dunking your female nemesis. His next foray into the Gauntlet pitted him against Adam – probably the biggest chaunce on the show. But I digress. The event was Alton’s choice. He humbly chose an event in which Adam – a noted climber (whatever that means) – had the best chance of succeeding. Let’s just say that Alton climbed the net in about 1 second while Adam was still on the ground. It was an incredible performance that will never be duplicated in the history of reality TV. It even impressed host TJ Lavin (who resembles a less emotional Keanu Reeves). I leave it up to one Eric Schauer to debate Alton’s relative fantasy prowess on The Gauntlet.
Guest post at 2:57 pm on 1/24/06 by Matthew Baldwin Great postings. The bachelor is a great show. I will admit that I am surprised at the lack of credit given to our man Travis with the exception of Mr. Clarin. Travis is a doctor, and although that doesn’t automatically make one intelligent, he seems to be pretty smart and down to earth. That being said, Travis is a human being and subject to the temptations that the flesh surely holds. However this man is much more complex than the majority of the Bottom Line guys are giving him credit for. First off, in no physical model of the universe is this guy a stranger to the ladies. Is he Wilt Chamberlain? I seriously doubt it, but there is no way someone that good looking, intelligent and jacked goes through life without falling into some luck here and there. Now that this is on the table we know that after 33 years of living and loving Travis knows what he likes. Jeff says "short and slender with a virginal, yet naughty, personality." I agree on a physical level but that does not do him justice. Travis, like many others, including myself, likes a girl who can bring it; a girl who is comfortable enough with herself that she can bring some fire, passion and excitement. This explains why Tara and Moana remain. In addition to their obvious physical attributes, they are fiery, bold and unapologetic about being so. Some might call them borderline bitchy; and I think that is what Travis likes and the other women absolutely hate. Nobody likes girls that cry all the time, nobody likes girls who apologize all the time and nobody likes girls who talk shit about other girls. It is just annoying. Simply said, the guy wants a girl who is real. The best part of the show is that Travis is much smarter and more mature than all of these girls; but the girls do not realize it. He seems wise to the games played by members of the fairer sex. This was plainly evident with Kristin and she is the only "removal" I will consider. I chose her because Jeff liked her so much. I am a red-blooded American male and I see why Jeff likes her; but I think he will admit that she was a complete jackass. Orange-peel teeth? Come on. Despite her considerable physical assets, a guy would have to be about 50 glasses of Remy Martin to the wind in order to let this pass. Silliness. I have no doubt that Kristin has used this trick in the past and snagged a lesser dude, not because of the lemon, but because of the T&A. Most girls don't understand things like that, so she was understandably upset. Travis is a sharp dude and saw through this; although I am sure it is much easier to look past a gorgeous bikini-clad blonde when you have a dozen other girls holed up in a Parisian apartment vying for your affection amongst other things. Sarah (Tennessee) will be Travis' next, "I am way smarter and mature than you" victim. She is working the "I'm a kindergarten teacher, sweet as Georgia peach pie, we are both from Nashville" angle. It is a decent angle, I was fooled at first but then you realize that she is catty, boring and not nearly as good-looking or fit as anyone else. She will be canned next week in the first round because she hates fun and talks bad about people. Jehan will be canned next week in a two-on-one date or something ridiculous like that. She has so far showed no semblance of personality or the spark that the other contenders have while at the same time giving brief glimpses of cattiness. Jehan is a Tara wannabe; this will be exposed next week when she tries to assert herself. For my money Susan and Canadian Sarah are the frontrunners. As I said earlier, Jehan and Sarah Tennessee get transatlantic flights next week, which leaves Susan, Sarah, Tara and Moana. It looks like they only boot one more off in the following three weeks, Tara is first gone. Those random walk-ins she conducts will become bothersome and I sort of feel like she is going to do something completely psychotic in the near future; a la her "Stage 5 clinger" namesake in Wedding Crashers. The following two weeks look like a toss-up right now but in the end-for my money-Susan takes the cake. She is absolutely gorgeous, down to Earth and seems to be the only girl even remotely as intelligent at Travis. I hope they get married and have 14 children. Guest Post at 10:47 am on 1/24/06 by Anonymous An Open Letter to Coach Jim Boeheim Dear Mr. Boeheim, You have a prodigious amount of college basketball coaching victories, you have shown devoted loyalty to Syracuse University and the program that weaned you, you are a member of the NCAA basketball hall of fame, and you have won a national championship… The Time For Honoring Yourself Is At An End. You are the most stubborn coach in the history of college basketball. Your self created 2-3 zone has served Syracuse well over your numerous decades of coaching, but it is not perfect. You seek only to maintain your pride which is evident in your failures. The very moment when a change is needed is the very moment you refuse to bend, for if you were to bend it would be an affront to your honor. That is why you refuse to break from your zone when it is a clear failure. You would rather snap in the wind then bend to the momentum and strategy of your opposition. This years team is woefully inadequate at almost every position. Gerry McNamara is a great player….when he has teammates that can relieve some pressure, catch passes, and make shots. These are all things he lacks this season. He is the Atlas of NCAA basketball. Your “Big Men” are atrocious; lacking not only skill but desire. Though it is impossible for the blame of their lack of skill to fall on you, I place their lack of energy squarely on your shoulders. The only post up moves MR Roberts and MR Watkins have mastered is the one on Saturday night at the bar. Demetrious Nichols is much improved, though this improvement does not qualify him as “good”. HE is about as consistent as Jeff Tinker’s golf game. (This being inconsistent) Mr Devendorf is exactly the type of player people like me hate. He takes the sacred image of the 5’11’’ shooting guard, which Gerry has wonderfully upheld, and disgraced it. Blasphemy I tell you! Short white guys should be knowledgeable, slow, accurate shooters, leaders, above all else tattoo free. The “freshman phenom” on the other hand is intellectually debilitated, out of control, disruptive, greedy, selfish, and about as free of tattoos as Dan Clarin is free of ridiculously glorified high school sports stories. Mr Boeheim, I charge you with these failures! Beyond accusations of MR Boeheim’s dereliction of duties, we have one saving grace…( In my completely and utterly unbiased opinion. Despite differing accounts I have no connection to this player.) MATTHEW WILLIAM GORMAN. He is a renaissance man of basketball skill. He is an accurate three point shooter, he can rebound, he can pass, he plays defense and he has a plethora of low post moves in his coffers of basketball treasure. He is the total package folks, and anyone who saw the Jan 23rd game against Pittsburgh would agree. So why has he been riding the pine all season, although his stats (adjusted for minutes) quadruple those who play in front of him? It is clearly due to your insane jealousy of him Mr Boeheim. What has created this jealousy? This is pure conjecture on my part of course, but the attractiveness of your wife must have something to do with it. Perhaps she has strayed from her bonds of marriage, perhaps into the arms of a strapping young 6’11 4th year junior. There is no way for us to tell, but you are clearly about as far out of your league as Dave Mandel was out of his mind when he adopted me as his son. I ask you to set aside your differences. Shake hands and bury the hatchet. Mr Gorman can save your season. A good friend of mine once predicted in 2002 that MR Gorman would be the Big East player of the year in the near future. The potential is there, yet Boeheim has shackled him to the limbo of “reserve”, with no hope of his greatness materializing. There was a dream that was Matthew Gorman. LET IT BE REALIZED. I hope I wasn’t too harsh,
Guest post at 8:31 am on 1/20/06 by Tom Bowles
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Basketball Thoughts posted 3:20 on 12/14/05 by Mike Granieri The Nash Attack, Redux Due to the fast paced nature of posting on this sweet site I wanted to at least defend/elaborate on my previous post before it was ancient history. I think there is at least one rule everybody should agree on: 1 ) The MVP should come from a winning, successful team. That is the ultimate goal for sports – to win. This should automatically eliminate Kobe from the conversation right now. Sure, he is probably the most talented player in the league and no doubt is he a great perimeter defender. But he is doing all this in the context of a losing team (well, hovering near .500 doesn’t count as winning or successful in my book). 2) The MVP, besides putting up great individual statistics, should make his teammates better. I think this has a direct correlation with my first point since improving the play of your teammates leads to more wins. Does Kobe improve the play of Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm? I find that hard to believe. Did Michael Jordan improve the play of everybody around him? I would venture to say yes. Do TD, KG and Steve Nash do the same? I would also venture to say yes. Now that we have those basic requirements down this is where the conversation gets as hairy as the East German swim team. Do we define MVP as the first person you would select when you start your team (essentially the best player argument)? Do we define MVP as the most indispensable player on any team in the league (that is, looking at the context/situation in which the player performs.)? This, I believe, is the major dichotomy in the current debate. If I had to start a team for one year I would choose Shaq; he is hands down the most dominant player in the league right now. My argument against him is that he has not played enough minutes to warrant MVP consideration this year. Jeff’s argument might make more sense at the end of the year if Shaq can stay healthy. The next player I would choose is Tim Duncan, and really, I think the debate for MVP should be between TD and Steve Nash. Duncan is similar to Nash since he is the centerpiece of their offense but also the linchpin of their defense. He is a more complete player than Steve Nash but is he more indispensable (ie. more valuable to the Spurs’ success than Steve Nash is to the Suns’ success?). Based on my criteria, I think you could plug in a player like Kevin Garnett into the Spurs’ and the team would contend for a championship every year. Put Jason Kidd/DWade/Hinrich on the Suns instead of Nash and I have a hard time believing they would be nearly as successful. So Steve Nash isn’t as good as a defender as Kobe Bryant, but does that make him less valuable of a player when factoring in the impact he has on his teammates and his team? Basketball is not played in a bubble – taking into consideration other factors is a key element for the MVP debate. On that note, I have to go buddy up to some toilet paper after eating 5 $0.59 hamburgers. posted 3:45 pm on 12/13/05 by Mike Granieri Steve Nash for MVP I would like to open a topic for debate. With the MVP race so wide open right now the argument could go in a number of directions. My vote is for Steve Nash. Here is why: He has guided the Suns to a 13-7 record while losing 3/5 of his starting lineup and replacing them with Kurt Thomas (whose play early on was terrible) and role players such as Raja Bell, James Jones, Boris Diaw, Eddie House and Jim Jackson. He has taken on a larger burden of the scoring while still dishing out over 10 assists per game. His defense remains average at best but with the style of basketball the Suns play you really don’t need to be an elite on the ball defender. How do you really quantify the MVP? That is probably the toughest part of answering this question so I will use the simple “what would his team be like without him” argument. Could you imagine any other point guard in the NBA that could come close to duplicating what Steve Nash does for the Suns? Ok, sure, you probably say Jason Kidd. But really, look at his supporting cast. He has Richard Jefferson and Vince Carter on the wings. Steve Nash has Raja Bell and James Jones/Boris Diaw yet he makes them look like respectable NBA players. Plus, the Suns actually have a great record right now while the Nets are stuck in mediocrity. It is very difficult to come up with another scenario in the league where one player is as indispensable as Steve Nash. Other questions remain. Does indispensable equate to Most Valuable Player in the league? What other qualifications make a player “the most valuable?” Does Steve Nash’s supposed lack of defense take him out of consideration? |