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SteveMDFP3:  I'm on now 
SteveMDFP3:  yes. SteveMDFP4 
SteveMDFP3:  It's me whose lost the ability to use with control. I'm a firm believer in not imposing my problems on those around me. 
nascar_babes:  do you have yahoo IM? 
nascar_babes:  too lenght to get into here -  
SteveMDFP3:  it's normal, and you're not an alcoholic that I know of. You can do that. It's fine. 
SteveMDFP3:  why embarassed? 
nascar_babes:  i am embarrased to admit thats exactly what i do 
SteveMDFP3:  so I understand. 
nascar_babes:  defintely need a "check up" 
SteveMDFP3:  It was certainly my custom to drink some to relax on a first-date situation. 
 nascar_babes wants you in her network. Accept? Deny? 
SteveMDFP3:  yes 
SteveMDFP3:  sometimes the engine will run better after the pistons are allowed to play in and out of the cylinders, with good lubrication, of course. 
nascar_babes:  cuz i like to play pool or darts when i first meet someone and when i play - i like to drink - would that be okay? you game? 
SteveMDFP3:  you just need a partner who is compatible and like-minded 
SteveMDFP3:  nothing wrong with having a healthy libido 
SteveMDFP3:  It's fine. 
nascar_babes:  yes it does - more passion than i know what to do with  
SteveMDFP3:  Yes. 
SteveMDFP3:  I think it needs a careful, thorough exam. 
nascar_babes:  trying to be sensitive you to your sobriety - are you ok with others drinking? 
SteveMDFP3:  hmm...sounds like you've got an engine that runs hot. 
nascar_babes:  lol - stop! youre driving me nuts - and i dont really have a way to take care of it besides self service! 
SteveMDFP3:  yeah, those drives can get pretty hard, sometimes 
nascar_babes:  lol - yes - ah yes - and definitely! 
SteveMDFP3:  I try to amuse 
SteveMDFP3:  um....play doctor? 
SteveMDFP3:  er.....spin the hard drive? 
SteveMDFP3:  er....hammering 
SteveMDFP3:  sounds like you could use a guy to come over and do some nailing 
nascar_babes:  lol 
nascar_babes:  cool - good skills to have 
SteveMDFP3:  where was I? so close, and yet so far. 
SteveMDFP3:  and some painting. 
nascar_babes:  lol - where were you about 7mo ago?!? 
SteveMDFP3:  a little lite electrical work, telephone wiring 
SteveMDFP3:  and drywall, and installed plumbing fixtures 
SteveMDFP3:   
SteveMDFP3:  I've laid ...what's it called...oh, yeah, tile. 
nascar_babes:  my coworkers tease the crap out of me because of it - it happened recently - so its been on my mind 
SteveMDFP3:  working on house....I'm quite the do-it-yourselfer, you know. 
nascar_babes:  not every time i laugh  
SteveMDFP3:  I like to laugh 
nascar_babes:  friends tonight - working on house tomorrow - baseball game sunday 
SteveMDFP3:  evil laugh....ok 
nascar_babes:  i like to laugh and when surpised <so i am told> can let out a quite evil sounding one - and there is no malice behind it - it just sounds that way 
SteveMDFP3:  busy plans? All the other guys from Adult FriendFinder? 
nascar_babes:  me too - life is too short to be miserable 
SteveMDFP3:  what I'm looking for, I guess, is simply pleasant, pleasing companionship 
nascar_babes:  yes - this weekend would be idea! too bad i am so strapped for time 
SteveMDFP3:  but being indoors can be nice, too.  
nascar_babes:  of course with my dirty mind - oh yeah - i went there <stuey> 
SteveMDFP3:  just being outdoors is nice 
SteveMDFP3:  I guess that could be taken more than one way  
nascar_babes:  what?!? lol 
SteveMDFP3:  depends how much groaning you want to do in an evening 
nascar_babes:  i c - not a bad thing necessarily 
SteveMDFP3:  so, let's put bad puns on the list 
nascar_babes:  lol - cool 
SteveMDFP3:  yuck, yuck......I've got a corny sense of humor. 
SteveMDFP3:  comes from doing yoga 
SteveMDFP3:  well, I'm flexible 
nascar_babes:  you really sound very nice - i would love to meet you - what are somethings you do for fun? 
nascar_babes:  lol - hi steve - peg 
SteveMDFP3:  I really am Steve, by the way 
SteveMDFP3:  ages 12, 10, 10 ... pretty darling kids 
SteveMDFP3:  three...they live with their mom...all girls 
nascar_babes:  hee hee hee - glad you liked that one ... its sad when a marriage ends unless there was violence involved - but what a joy and relief when its all over - no kids - u? 
SteveMDFP3:  any kids? 
SteveMDFP3:  for me it's been about 3 years 
SteveMDFP3:  LOL !!! 
nascar_babes:  yes - its my own version of recovery - "hello i got divoreced - ive been single and happy for 2yrs now"  
SteveMDFP3:  you're divorced as well? 
nascar_babes:  yup! 
SteveMDFP3:  wow....It sounds like there are stories galore there. 
nascar_babes:  lol 
nascar_babes:  only one is a full blood sibling 
SteveMDFP3:  I was about to say "I'd guess that being exceptional runs in your family." But you kinda beat me to it. 
nascar_babes:  i have a total of 4 sisters and 5 brothers 
SteveMDFP3:  LOL!!! 
nascar_babes:  of course she is - shes my sister! 
SteveMDFP3:  well, no. She would be relatively exceptional then. 
nascar_babes:  i guess so - if you call self analysis arm twisting 
SteveMDFP3:  any other siblings? 
SteveMDFP3:  almost nobody goes without some kind of arm-twisting, in the beginning 
nascar_babes:  two of my sisters have entered a recovery program - one was forced into it - the other willingly -  
SteveMDFP3:  tell me more about you 
SteveMDFP3:  <-- tries not to lose his sense of humor 
SteveMDFP3:   
nascar_babes:  good for you! 
SteveMDFP3:  Sure. We can talk about it over drinks! 
SteveMDFP3:  It's been 14 months now, clean dry and sober. 
nascar_babes:  cool - id love to chat with you about that someday - get your opinion about a couple of view points i have 
SteveMDFP3:  to be honest and open, I'm in recovery 
SteveMDFP3:  yes 
nascar_babes:  really?  
SteveMDFP3:  It's about alcoholism 
nascar_babes:  very cool - what book are you writing? 
nascar_babes:  lol - i can make it to the "office" 
SteveMDFP3:  Family Practice...like a GP, only better 
SteveMDFP3:  that also makes a good line 
SteveMDFP3:  Need a doctor to come make a house call? 
nascar_babes:  heh heh heh - what kind of dr? 
SteveMDFP3:  Let's just say I relish the ambiguity. 
 nascar_babes wants you in her network. Accept? Deny? 
nascar_babes:  heh heh heh - so when you say "wanna play doctor" youre being serious? 
SteveMDFP3:  I'm a doctor. But I'm taking time away from practice and writing a book. 
SteveMDFP3:  that's alright. I was afraid I'd bored you already 
nascar_babes:  what do you do for a job? 
SteveMDFP3:  I've been a computer geek for almost all my adult life 
nascar_babes:  sorry about that 
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SteveMDFP3:  Oh, it's not professional 
SteveMDFP3:  tell me about you. 
SteveMDFP3:  hmmm....the actual disk, I guess you mean 
nascar_babes:  what is your specialty with computers? 
nascar_babes:  lol - i think anyone would - the only thing in there is something that looks like a CD 
SteveMDFP3:  <== knows his limits 
SteveMDFP3:  though if the actual hard drive had to be opened, I'd be out of my element 
SteveMDFP3:  I'm actually a pretty good computer geek 
nascar_babes:  yeah - i got a friend in atlanta that might be able to help me save it 
SteveMDFP3:  that's OK. Lost your hard drive? 
nascar_babes:  i wish i did - but i lost all my pics when my computer dided recently <pardon my bad spelling> 
SteveMDFP3:  thank you....I was wondering if you had one 
nascar_babes:  very nice pic 
nascar_babes:  lol - not really 
SteveMDFP3:  You're probably getting a lot of IMs 
SteveMDFP3:  photo 
SteveMDFP3:  you're also divorced? 
 Your invitation has been sent. 
nascar_babes:  i couldnt agree more 
SteveMDFP3:  it's better all around now. 
nascar_babes:  lol - i c 
SteveMDFP3:  to my vast relief 
SteveMDFP3:  divorced 
SteveMDFP3:  you've seen my picture? 
nascar_babes:  are you married? 
nascar_babes:  thanks! 
SteveMDFP3:  I saw you were local and online...thought I'd say hello. 
SteveMDFP3:  I'm quite well, thanks. 
nascar_babes:  doing well & U? 
SteveMDFP3:  I'm in Rockville 
nascar_babes:  hello 
SteveMDFP3:  Hello. How are you? 
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nascar_babes: hi
Stevemdfp4: Hey, I know you.
nascar_babes: lol
Stevemdfp4: You're the babe with the hot-running engine that needs an exam.
nascar_babes: thats me!
nascar_babes: and youre the stud thats going to give me a check up i wont forget!
Stevemdfp4: I'd like to try.
nascar_babes: lol
nascar_babes: what does mdfp4 stand for?
Stevemdfp4: md = doctor, or maryland
Stevemdfp4: fp = family practice
Peg: cool
Peg: i figured the md meant dr - but i was mystified on the fp
Stevemdfp4: 4 = I've used MDFP a couple of times before on aol accounts.
Peg: i c
Peg: was hoping that was a 4 times a night indicator
Stevemdfp4: ah....well, when properly inspired, that's quite possible.
Peg: awesome!
Stevemdfp4: tell me what you look like.
Peg: five foot short - brown hair & eyes <although i sometimes act blonde> - 42dd chest w/hips as wide
Stevemdfp4: LOL !!!
Peg: what?
Peg: u laughing at me?
Stevemdfp4: you're fine.  what matters is the person inside.
Peg: 
Peg: 
Stevemdfp4: no, not what I meant.. "Five foot short"
Peg: lol - ah
Peg: yes - i like to poke fun at myself - 
Peg: how about u? oh yeah - you already gave me a pic!  lol
Stevemdfp4: 6' 3"
Peg: ooh - very nice
Peg: i like tall - goes well with my short
Peg: 
Stevemdfp4: LOL !!!
Peg: i would really like to meet you - i have not met many that i feel that way right away - but you seem fun
Stevemdfp4: I try to give what I'd want to receive...
Peg: me too! why cant more be like that?
Stevemdfp4: comfortable, pleasant, respectful, pleasant and pleasing company
Stevemdfp4: because you're dealing with men.  
Stevemdfp4: I really am a man, I swear.  And I'm not gay, not even bi.
Peg: lol - oh yeah
Stevemdfp4: But I hear endless stories from women about how impossible men can be
Stevemdfp4: and I can't understand why more women don't try to become lesbians.
Peg: LOL - i got an answer to that one - cuz we are the most fierce bitches youve ever met!
Peg: we cant stand each other! lol
Peg: i have an extremely low tolerance for most antics that women do
Peg: sorry - too strong?
Stevemdfp4: yeah, there's problems on both sides of the fence.
Stevemdfp4: no, not at all.
Stevemdfp4: like I say, I'm flexible.
Peg: yeah - but i get along with guys much better than chicks - and now that i am not looking to "bag" one - i get along with them even better
Stevemdfp4: yes, that would tend to take some of the pressure off
Peg: yeah - life is really good right now - i am so enjoying myself
Stevemdfp4: excellent
Peg: yeah - but still low on companionship - thats the only thing i miss about being married
Stevemdfp4: yes, being alone can be difficult.
Stevemdfp4: I had the sense that you wanted to say something about how you use alcohol.  Or did I mis-read that?
Peg: no - my opion about alcoholism
Stevemdfp4: oh, ok
Peg: i had a problem with alcohol and considered going to AA - but was able <with time> to conqure it <somewhat>
Peg: and was wondering if that classified me as an alcoholic <either at that time or even now> 
Peg: i am very subconsious about drinking - i have a family history of it - and with two of my sisters going into the program - really reinforces that
Stevemdfp4: yes
Peg: yes to what?
Stevemdfp4: really, any addiction can be defined similarly
Stevemdfp4: engaging in a behavior that's 1. dysfunctional, causing trouble in one's life, and 2. 
Stevemdfp4: the individual has lost significant control over.
Stevemdfp4: serious addiction is a compulsion, and will-power is inadequate to control it.
Stevemdfp4: The key for you would be to make sure your use doesn't escalate over time.
Peg: no - it wont - like i said - i am very self conscious about it - even though i think about drinking a lot - i dont give in 
Peg: the only times i loose control now - is when i know i dont have to drive - and not even everytime then
Stevemdfp4: I'd always enjoyed being intoxicated too much.
Peg: i do enjoy the buzz thats for sure
Peg: quiets the chaos in my brain
Peg: <no i dont hear voices>
Peg: just excessive thoughts - 
Stevemdfp4: It's interesting.  Most "normal" people don't find it particularly pleasant.
Peg: lol - then i dont know a lot of normal people
Stevemdfp4: yes, it's a multi-symptom medication for mental problems.
Stevemdfp4: well, drinkers tend to flock together.
Peg: yes we do!
Peg: lol
Stevemdfp4: then when the compulsion progresses too far, they again flock together....in AA meetings!
Peg: well that makes sense - cuz only someone that has gone thru what "youve" gone thru can understand the difficulty
Stevemdfp4: yes.
Stevemdfp4: so, Peg, what were you planning on doing tomorrow?
Peg: stop reading my mind
Stevemdfp4: 
Peg: i was wondering if you wanted to get together tomorrow night - my brother was talking about watching the darlington race with me - but i can get out of that - he'll be spending the whole day with me 
Stevemdfp4: ah.  So how soon can you ditch your brother?
Stevemdfp4: and yes, I'd love to.
Peg: that will be tough cuz ive already told him i was planning on have burgers on the grill with him - but i can get dinner on by 5p or so - and have him out the door by 6ish or so - tell him that i want him to get home to watch the race in time
Peg: so maybe get together 7ish <which means anytime between 7 & 7:30>
Stevemdfp4: gotcha.  That would be fine.
Stevemdfp4: and I'm confident that we'll hit it off well.
Peg: i think so too - wanna meet at champions? or do you have another place in mind?
Stevemdfp4: But I think it's important as a ground rule that neither of us should feel pressured to do anything.
Peg: i completely agree
Stevemdfp4: champions......where is that?
Peg: rockville pike - behind compusa
Stevemdfp4: Oh, yes!
Stevemdfp4: that's one of those malls on the strip....
Peg: yup
Stevemdfp4: well...even though you'll have just eaten...maybe meet at California Tortilla, by the Regal Cinema in Rockville?
Peg: near the courthouse?
Stevemdfp4: yes, exactly
Peg: sure - i could have some decaf or something
Stevemdfp4: great.  Now there's a few things I feel I should tell you in advance
Stevemdfp4: nothing that affects how we can spend our time together, but some complexities of my life right now
Peg: ok
Stevemdfp4: I hit a VERY low bottom 14 months ago.
Peg: what does that mean?
Stevemdfp4: It's a good thing that you're not looking for a "catch" ... my medical license is suspended.  (not revoked)
Stevemdfp4: I'm explaining...
Peg: sorry
Stevemdfp4: And I'm relatively impoverished.  NOT that I need anything from anyone...I'm quite comfortable living within my means.
Peg: i can be anxious sometimes
Stevemdfp4: But I have neither a valid driver's license nor a car.
Stevemdfp4: but I'm an expert with public transportation.
Peg: ah
Peg: no worries
Stevemdfp4: if you're anxious, feel free to have a little.  Then a little more upon getting home.
Peg: no - not that kind of anxious
Peg: antsy - fidgety - impatient
Peg: not a worrier
Stevemdfp4: oh.  OK.  I think I can deal with that, if you can.
Stevemdfp4: if you're not short-tempered.
Peg: i have lots of energy - but because of my back injury <many yrs ago> it has slowed me down - so - have you ever tried to hold a puppy still? kinda like that
Stevemdfp4: antsy and fidgety doesn't bother me.
Peg: not short tempered - but if my fuse does go off - its short
Stevemdfp4: well, if you need them, I'll be sure to bring along my soft wrist and ankle restraints  
Peg: lol - nooooooooooooo
Stevemdfp4: to hold you still.  
Peg: that would drive me NUTS 
Peg: one of the motivations to keep me out of the special hospital
Stevemdfp4: OK....I'm not into bondage...but I've had a partner or two in the past who liked being tied.  I like to be accomodating.
Peg: i c - 
Peg: ive not really ever done it - and have only been with one so far that i would trust to do it with - so who knows - 
Peg: this is kinda weird to admit - but i feel very comfortable about meeting you
Peg: lol - did i scare you away?
Stevemdfp4: no...sorry
Stevemdfp4: I got called away for a second.
Peg: oh - ok
Stevemdfp4: the other complicating piece in my life is that I live in a recovery house.
Stevemdfp4: Kind of like a monastery, in a lot of ways.
Peg: oh -
Stevemdfp4: I have a weekend pass
Stevemdfp4: so meeting and playing overnight is not a problem
Peg: can you have visitors at all <not to do anything but just visit>?
Stevemdfp4: well, it's not a place anyone would want to entertain in.  But it's been known to happen.
Stevemdfp4: The issue with the weekend pass, is that if I don't return before 9:30 pm, I'm not supposed to return until 6 am.
Peg: lol - ic
Peg: better get you home then!
Peg: er - i mean
Stevemdfp4: So if we decided not to, um, do anything
Stevemdfp4: I'd need to like sleep on your sofa or something.
Stevemdfp4: Or bed. 
Peg: lol - 
Stevemdfp4: See, I couldn't spring this on you when I meet you...that wouldn't be fair.
Peg: i appreciate your honesty - thats one thing that i am particular about - have severed many a relationships because of the lack of <intimate as well as non intimate>
Stevemdfp4: gotcha.  I understand.  It's very important.
Peg: yes it is
Stevemdfp4: and a little nerve-wracking on this end; I've lost out on quite a few possible dates about being honest about these things.
Stevemdfp4: by being honest, I mean
Stevemdfp4: but no way would I spring garbage on you.
Peg: well - my feeling on that is - they are not worth being with then
Stevemdfp4: You already know the most embarassing things about me.
Stevemdfp4: well, yes, but it doesn't always seem that way when the, um, engine...needs...er, servicing.
Stevemdfp4: 
Peg: true true
Peg: i understand - believe me i do
Stevemdfp4: A smaller item...I think that picture is a pretty good likeness of me...but I've lately had a bit of adult acne.  Not horrible, but just enough to be a little self-conscious over.
Peg: i c - thats fine - i think - 
Stevemdfp4: On the plus side, I've had testing for HIV, Hep B, Hep C, etc and I'm healthy.
Peg: drinking lots of colas?
Stevemdfp4: acne?  no, not entirely sure, but it's responding to topicals
Peg: carmel coloring <found in all dark sodas>, peanut butter and tropical oils are known acne producers
Stevemdfp4: I'll remember that.  And on the plus side, I can tell you that what turns me on sexually
Stevemdfp4: is arousing and pleasing my partner.
Stevemdfp4: I hope you don't mind when a guy goes down on you.
Peg: i gotta run - chat with you tomorrow at tippy tacos? er california tortilla ... lol ... do you have a way for me to contact you?
Stevemdfp4: Or massages your G-spot
Peg: no - i dont mind
Peg: if i did - i wouldnt have joined AFF
Stevemdfp4: number to leave a brief message at the house:  301-424-1380
Stevemdfp4: It's Steve Coulter, by the way.
Stevemdfp4: could I call you tomorrow?
Peg: well - i will be busy all day - what i was thinking is i could call you before i leave - but i take it you wont be home?
Stevemdfp4: well, they're weird about the phone. 
Stevemdfp4: Actually, I'd be likely to be online
Peg: what do you mean?
Stevemdfp4: oh, there's staff at the house...they treat it as a staff-only phone sometimes.
Peg: what do you mean theyre weird about the phone? i figure id say - im on my way - and leave it at that - it will take me about 15min or so to get there
Stevemdfp4: Getting my cell phone turned back on should be a priority for me.
Peg: lol - true true
Peg: one day at a time though - eh?
Peg: i know i live by that
Stevemdfp4: yes
Stevemdfp4: so it will work better if I plan on being online in the afternoon until you're done, if you can then go online when you're ready.
Peg: ok - i will do that - gotta scoot now - chat/see you tomorrow ... 
Stevemdfp4: You've been wonderfully understanding.
Stevemdfp4: I'll try to reward you for that.  
Stevemdfp4: ok, ciao.
Peg: lol - my middle name - still gets me nowhere
Stevemdfp4: 
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