Subject: Re: stamps (First Day Covers)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 23:39:20 -0800
From: "A.J. Ward"
To: [email protected]

Dear Bill,
Thanks for responding and telling some of the APS info and I would like to ask again, "... And when did YOU start and is the first one still available...?" or are they all unique and made to order ..etc...

And now I have to ask "Who are Steve and Dick?" - And I really would like to purchase a copy of the 1st FDC you distributed if it is available. (repetitive aren't I)..

And may I get a list of what you have available? and what you have produced? and how many of each were made?....(this is beginning to sound like work)...:(

One of the things I am trying to do is put together a website series on FDC producers like yourself and display images of their work with a link to their site if they have one and would like to include you if that's alright with you.

In any event, under seperate cover (sic) ;), I an sending you $5 with a request for one of your FDC'S and one the APS FDC'S and would like, as I said, to hopefully get a copy of you 1st issue (but any will do) and the same goes for the APS cover.

And I would deeply appreciate it if you would sign your cover and possibly give me enough info to locate the maker of the APS cover so I could ask the same of him.

Any additional info on your work (like when you started, what the 1st one was...etc... and any more on APS (like WHO did the art work many were done and which ones were done... ... ... ... ...nosy aren't I? ;)

Many thanks and much good luck,
Art Ward

Bill Pertzborn wrote:
>Dear Mr. Ward,
> I sell my FDCs at $2 each for .32 0r .33 stamps. Higher values depend on the stamp. If you would like to subscribe send $20 and I will send you covers until it is used up. I make covers for all stamps. The next ones will be the wetlands and shield stamp. I have not sent them out yet so let me know if interested and I'll include you.
> As to the AZ prison covers. I taught vocational plumbing at the prison from 1985 to 1993. I noticed that the inmates would make drawings on their envelopes they would sent out. I told them about FDCs. I had one inmate draw some covers for me which I bought threw their art system. I then put him in touch with Steve and Dick and he drew covers for them after he was transferred to another unit. I then found other artists. I guess in all about four different people made covers for me. They are all ASP covers which stands for Arizona State Prison. I can't remember which was the first that was made. I would have to get them out and try to figure it out.
> I hope this will help you if you have any further questions let me know.
> Bill Pertzborn
> 350 N. Main St.
>Coolidge, AZ 85228

> >
> > From: A.J. Ward
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: stamps
> > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:19 AM
> >
> > I would Like to know about your FDC service; and about the AZ prison
> > covers (a little history; like when did they start - if you know- and
> > how do I find out more?). And when did you start and is the first one
> > still available or do you just trade?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > P.O. BOX 251334
> > GLENDALE, CA 91225

Subject: Re: FDC
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:25:04 -0800
From: "A.J. Ward"
To: [email protected]

Dear Bill,
Thanks for your letter. I put $5 in the mail to you with a short note
but you can deal with that later.

I was in a stamp shop yesterday - just after having read you letter -
and I ran into a man who was going through all the covers he could find
there and we got to chatting and I was telling him about 'this man in AZ
who does his own covers and had even worked with some prinoners...'
and he says, 'you mean, the APS...?' - Guess who this man was? -
The 'Dick' of 'Steve and Dick' and he asked me to say "Hello" to you.

It seems that he has retired from stamp dealing - mostly. Says he still
does some buying for Steve in (Hendersonvill?), Tenn. He borrowed the
latest copy of Linn's (12/28) and found the 'Steve and Dick' ad under the
classifieds. - How's that for 'coinsidence'?

Merry Christmas,

Bill Pertzborn wrote:

> Dear A.J.
> I'll try to answer your questions. First I would appreciate you putting a link to my site.
The artist who made the first cover was named Dennis as he was working for an exterminator in Phoenix. I have not heard from him since.
>My first cover was for the coaches issue in 1997. At first I used art programs that I bought for my computer. Then I learned how to take art work off the Net. At first I made 5 copies of each. I got one person on my service so now I make 6 copies. As I get more people it will go up. I was going to quit as it was getting quit expensive. I sent out 6 covers on the $11.75 stamp. 1999 looks like the postal presses will be running wild. I may miss a few covers this summer as I plan on going to Wisconsin. I doubt if I will take my computer and printer so I might miss a few. >
> There are a lot of cover collectors in the Tucson Stamp Club. Some make their own covers I'll see if I can get them in touch with you. >
> Steve and Dick are in the cover business. They usually advertise in Linn's. I just looked in the Dec. 12 issue and they are not there. If you have any old copies you might look for them. If not, I will probably see them at the Tucson Show.
> I will have to do a little digging to find the first issue of ASP cover. I know one was listed in the National FDC club auction a few years ago. If you are a member and have the old bulletins you might find it there.
> Bill

Subject: Re: First Cachet
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 03:50:35 -0700
From: "Bill Pertzborn"
To: "aj ward"

Had To give this a little thought as I don't believe I have another one. But it I guess I can't be sentimental about it. I'll sell it for $4+1 shipping. As far as my First Cachet. At that time I used the same cachet for all Stamps. I have Different cachets for the red line coaches. I didn't know how to get images off the Internet yet. I used a clip art program till I learned how. My 1997 FDCs are not the best. The only one I've sold out was the Air Force stamp. My covers have been going well on ebay. I have sold two of the Michael Jordan covers one for $3 and one is in the auction and is already up to $5. I sold two of the "APS" covers that I had on my web site for 12.50. When I sent them to the winners I enclosed the following:

Bill Pertzborn
350 N Main St
Coolidge, AZ 85228
Ph. (520)723-0158
e-mail: [email protected]

Thank You for buying This Cover. Thought you might like to know a little History on this cover.

I was a vocational instructor at Arizona State Prison from 1985 to 1993. During this time I noticed that some of the inmates would decorate their letters when they mailed them. My clerk was one of them. I started telling him about First Day Covers. He started making them for me. I would have to buy the covers through the prison art system. Then I would send them in to the post office to be serviced. My first Artist was named Dennis Evans. He went on to produce covers for "Steve and Dick" Cover dealer. He went to a different Unit and I lost touch. I had a few other artists try their hand at producing covers. I had one artist who produced only two covers one in pencil and one in color. He was unbelievable. The pencil cover was sold to a dealer in Phoenix for $10. Unfortunately he was caught in some crime and he was shipped to a higher custody Unit. Marc Ezell produced the Covers you are getting. He did quite a few for me and had a lot of talent. If you are interested in more of his work let me know and I'll put some on my web site. Check out my site at I have another artist named Dave Albert. He made a few different covers for me and was quite good.
Thanks Again,
Bill Pertzborn

Hope you find some more Info Bill

> From: aj ward
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: First Cachet
> Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 3:17 PM
> Dear Bill,
> You message inspired me to get to the p.o. and there it was. Pop Warner is
> cool! - Tell me, is there a local Bears Pop Warner team down there or did
> you just pick the idea out of the air?
> Thanks for signing them and, if you're willing to part with the one you
> refered to below, I'd like to purchase that cachet too! Signed, of course,
> - right on the front below the cachet!
> And please tell me more about these APS covers - how long did you handle
> them before they went to Steve and Dick or did you both hanadle them? - I
> hope I'm not too nosy but I would like to get enough information to tell
> the story with my collection and share it with others... ;-)
> Thanks again,
> AJ
> Bill Pertzborn wrote:
> > A.J., Did you get the covers Yet? I found the first FDC I ever created
> > thought you might want to take a look at it.
> > I did it as a joke but it is my first
> > one. I didn't think I had any left but I did. Bill