[Note:
The following introduction is from the translator of this interview, the
Q&A is below...] As-Salaamu ‘alaykum, I tried to translate the
whole interview, including the introduction, from al-Bashaa’ir magazine.
I must note that my Arabic translation is not that great, so if someone
wants to check it he can, and he can edit it, and he can distribute it,
but must remove my name from it. I did not translate the last question
that was asked to the Shaykh, because it was more related to the Rawaafid
than the Khuloof. I still highly recommend whoever is able to, that it
be read in Arabic.
The translation is below:
A short introduction:
Al-‘Allaamah, with the
deep understanding, and detailed vision, Al-‘Allaamah ‘Abdullaah
bin Muhammad al-Ghunaymaan.
And the Shaykh is well known
amongst the people of Knowledge, and is famous for his deep understanding,
especially in the ‘Aqeedah of Ahl us-Sunnah and their methodology.
And he has a complete relationship (understanding) with the books of Shaykh
al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah and his way, with a comprehensive acquaintance
with the Madhhab of the Salaf and the sayings of Imaam Ahmad particularly,
as well as his companions.
With regards to the writings
of the Shuyookh of the Salafi Da’wah of Najd, then he is experienced
in it and what they were upon of the sciences and understandings. And
he is aware of the opposing madhhaahib (in ‘aqeedah) and
how to refute them with the textual and intellectual evidences.
He was appointed the head
of the ‘Aqeedah department in the Islaamic University in Madeenah
al-Munawwarah, then he was appointed the head of the whole honors department,
and he taught in the college of Da’wah and others, and in the Masjid
an-Nabawi, and his lectures were intended for the students of Knowledge.
In his lectures he explained Kitaab at-Tawheed, and he taught al’Aqeedah
al-Waasitiyah, and the sunan of Abu Dawood, and other books as well.
And he has many writings,
amongst them is the Sharh of Kitaab at-Tawheed from Saheeh al-Bukhaari,
and the Mukhtasar of Minhaaj as-Sunnah, and he has other writings and
authentications all of which are beneficial, and from the most helpful
and important books for the students of Knowledge.
The Shaykh then returned to
Burayda his home town, and stayed to teach in the masjid, write, help
the students of Knowledge, and to answer questions with easiness and wisdom
which is hard to find in many of the people of Knowledge, as if he picked
these manners of answering and responding from the older scholars, not
from those of his time. May Allaah preserve him, and lengthen his age,
and Bless his work, and make him steadfast upon the Truth - Ameen.
And what will proceed is the
text of the questions I asked him, and his answers, which Al-Bashaa’ir
put forth for the students of Knowledge, so it can be a manar that they
be guided by, and a lamp they light by. We ask Allaah to reward him for
what he gave us of his time, and put this on his scale, Allaah is Ghafoor,
Shakoor.
Sallalaahu ‘alaa Muhammad
wa ‘alaa aalihi wa sahbihi ajma’een.
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Q: What are the
general fundamentals of Ahl us-sunnah, in which a person who opposes them
(the fundamentals) he would then be considered to have left Ahl us-Sunnah?...
Also, which book has gathered them all (the fundamentals)?
A: Bismillaah ar-Rahmaan
ar-Raheem, wa sallallaahu ‘alaa ‘abdihi wa rasoolihi, nabeenaa
Muhammad.
The fundamentals of Ahl us-Sunnah are what came
in the hadeeth of Jibreel, belief in Allaah, his angels, etc, and what
branches off from it. Regarding the
book that has gathered them, the ‘Aqeedah of Ahl us-Sunnah has
gathered them all. So whoever leaves these fundamentals, he will be
considered to have left
Ahl us-Sunnah.
Q:
Is practicing Hijrah (from a person who is in sin, or innovation) related
to the overall good and evil outcome?
A: Yes, Hijrah is
discipline and a treatment, so if Hijrah does not gain anything but
instead increases him (the person who the hijrah is from) in falsehood,
then it is not permissible to do Hijrah from him. Instead he is spoken
to and advised in a way which is most beneficial to him. Whereas if
[neither] speech nor debate benefits him, then he should be turned away
from.
Q:
Is it permissible to criticize (shar’i), to make hijrah and be baraa’
(i.e. having enmity) from someone merely because of his following of the
Madhaahib (ways) or Jamaa’aat like the Ikhwaan
or Tableegh and others?... And what is the Shar’i way to affirm
praise and criticism for individuals, sides, and groups?
A: This way is not
permissible, merely because of following a group from the groups of
the Muslims, for example a fiqhi madhhab or what resembles this. It
is not permissible to make this a cause of cutting relations, hate and
enmity. Enmity and hatred should be with regards to what has come in
the Kitaab of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi
wa sallam). And some claim a differing with them in an understanding
is an opposing in the manhaj, and it is possible that he is the opposing
and mistaken, and the other closer to the Truth than him.
And what is meant is that the Meezaan
(scale) should be the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger
(sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam), and the praise is for who Allaah and
his Messenger have praised.
And similarly criticism is for who Allaah and
His Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) have criticized, and with
the names that Allaah and His Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam)
have named.
Whereas [concerning] people; then it is not looked
to them (their meezaan) in praise and criticism, because they
could be following desires or wrong in their sayings, and there are
many things which can effect a person in his praisings and criticizing
of others. And the waajib is to be fair. And Allaah has ordered
justice in saying and action, and so it is obligatory to follow Allaah’s
Saying in this.
Q:
What is your opinion of he who differentiates between Ahl us-Sunnah and
the Salafiyyah, and makes the Salafiyyah a group more specified than Ahl
us-Sunnah, and who make its fundamentals what the mashaayikh of their
"group" are upon of opinions and sayings? (Note from
the translator: this is what the Khuloof [i.e. the so-called Salafis]
do, making the opinions of their Mashaayikh into the fundamentals of the
Sunnah)
A: This saying is
far from the Truth, because Ahl us-Sunnah are those who follow the Sahaabah
and what the Salaf were upon, and these were not one sect, and the others
another sect (Note: I think he is referring to the Sahaabah and the
remaining two generations of the Salaf), nor is the Salafiyyah more
specific!
And what is correct is that the Salaf are the
Sahaabah and whoever follows their path, and Ahl us-Sunnah are those
who have followed the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam), and
they are those which it was narrated about
“...What I and my Sahaabah were upon”
(The hadeeth of the saved sect)
And claiming difference merely because of labels
is not permissible, and Allaah has ordered the Believers to be united,
and warned from splitting up.
And the person’s hope should be for Truth,
and if he says something; he says it with fairness and justice. He shouldn’t
hate a person and cause his hatred to [make himself] reject the Truth
which the other says, or to attack his shortcomings, nor should he bring
things... (Note: I don’t understand the rest of this phrase),
this has nothing to do with Ahl us-Sunnah. And the Muslim should love
for his Brother what he loves for himself, and he should advise him,
and should make the advice loved by him.
Q:
What is your opinion regarding denying Tawheed al-Haakimiyyah, and is
making it into a separate category a cause to exit someone from the way
of the Salaf? And in which type of Tawheed does this category enter?
A: It is not permissible
to deny Tawheed al-Haakimiyyah, for it is from the types of Tawheed.
But it falls under Tawheed al-‘Ibaadah with regards to the ruler
himself as a person. With regards to it meaning Tawheed, then it falls
under ar-Ruboobeeyyah, because the Ruler is Allaah.
So it should be that the Rabb is the Muttasarrif,
He is the One who has the Hukm, so it falls under Tawheed Ar-Ruboobeeyyah
with regards to ruling, ordering, prohibiting, and carrying out, whereas
regards to application and action then the slave is responsible for
following the Hukm of Allaah, so then it is from Tawheed Al-‘Ibaadah
in this sense.
And making it into a fourth category doesn’t
make sense because it falls into the three categories. And the division
without a reason is a cause of extra words which are not needed, and
it is a simple matter anyway. If he makes it a separate category then
he is being redundant, and there is no harm it. (Notice, although he
seems to prefer avoiding the extra division, he still affirmed the whole
meaning, and the phrase Haakimiyyah itself. The khuloof claim
that this is a bid’ah)
Q:
Leaving the ruling by what Allaah revealed by making the modern laws into
the general legislation, a person who does this, is he to be declared
a kaafir?... And is there a difference between him and between he who
rules with the Sharee’ah but then sometimes he judges by what opposes
the Sharee’ah because of desire, or bribes, or anything similar
to this?
A: Yes, the difference
is needed. There is a difference between he who removed Allaah’s
Law and put in its place the modern laws, and ruled the people by them,
then he is a Kaafir and left the Millah (Religion) of Islaam. Whereas
he who is Muslim, but he is sinning and oppressive because he follows
his desires in some rulings and follows after worldly benefit while
affirming that he is sinning, this type would not be a kaafir who has
left the Millah.
And whoever thinks that ruling by the modern laws
is like ruling by the Sharee’ ah and makes it permissible, then
he is also a kaafir and left the Millah of Islaam, even if it is only
in one issue. (Note: Notice, the Shaykh says that the one who rules
by man-made laws is a kaafir, and clarifies that there is a difference
between today's rulers, and those rulers of the past. The Khuloof try
to claim that those who rule by the man-made laws/systems, are the same
as those rulers in the past who used to rule by Allaah’s Law,
but every now and then went against his law in a case or matter, because
of dunya, like many of the Khaleefahs would do after the era of the
Khulafaa’ ar-Raashidoon)
Q:
Is it permissible to claim Ijmaa’ (consensus) of the Salaf on that
there is no takfeer on the ruler who rules by other than what Allaah
revealed?...
A: This is not correct,
claiming Ijmaa’ of the Salaf on this.
And this also opposes the evidences, for the texts
from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger show that he
who judges by other than what
Allaah revealed completely is a Kaafir. And Allaah swears by this and
says
{and No, by your Lord, they will not believe,
until they place you as a judge
in all affairs that come between them, and then they will find no dislike
in themselves in what you decide, and they submit completely.}
Also,
{Don’t you see those who were given
part of the Book and believe
in the Jibt and Taaghoot and they say to those who disbelieve,
these are upon a more guided path than those who believe.}
And it is known that this is like what Shaykh
Al-Islaam Muhammad bin ‘Abdel-Wahhaab (rahimahullaah) said; that
this preference from them, of preferring
the way of the Kuffaar over the way of the Mu'mineen, was not based
on ‘Aqeedah, because they knew with certainty that the way of
the Mu'mineen is
better and more Guided, and yet Allaah has cursed them.
Q: Is praising
some of those who fall into bid’ah - regarding the good they have
done in the matters of Islaam which agreed with the Sunnah; is doing so
(i.e. praising them in their good) deviating from the Minhaaj of the Salaf?...
And did Ibn Taymiyyah do so?... And was his doing so from being just and
fair?
A: Yes, a person
should be treated fairly in his right, and the Truth should be said
about him; so if he does good, it is said to him ‘you did good.’
If he is mistaken, it is said to him ‘you have been mistaken.’
And it has proceeded that the Meezaan for this is the Kitaab and Sunnah,
regarding what Allaah has declared good and praised, it is obligatory
to declare it good and praise it. And what Allaah has criticized, then
it should be criticized.
And it is possible that a person leaving the evidence
and Truth be because of Ijtihaad, and he would not be a sinner, and
the sign of this is if the Truth is made
clear to him then he returns to the Truth, follows it, and disassociates
himself regarding what he was upon before. So it is not permissible
to embarrass him, but
he should be praised.
And [regarding] Shaykh Al-Islaam, this was his
way, and his books are present. He used to praise some of the people,
even if they were opposing [him] in a
matter in which they differed from Ahl us-Sunnah.
Q:
Is it a condition that to remove a Munkar (i.e. evil, wrong-doing) by
hand, that permission should first be sought from the ruler?
A: The removing of
the Munkar came in steps, as is in the Hadeeth in the saying of the
Messenger;
"Whoever of you sees a Munkar then he should
change it with his hand, if he is not able, then with his tongue, and
if he is not able, then with his heart."
And this is general for the one who is changing
the Munkar and for the Munkar itself. And in it there is no specification
of anyone over anyone else, except that the matter and conditions should
be examined, so if the changing of the Munkar will cause a greater Munkar
then it is not permissible to change it, regardless if the person is
a ruler or a citizen.
But if he knows that if he changes the munkar,
then the munkar will lessen and good will come out, then he must change
the munkar whether he is a ruler, or other than the ruler. This is because
of the meaning of the hadeeth of the Rasool (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa
sallam). And regarding narrowing the words of Allaah and His Messenger
without evidence, then it is not permissible.
(Note: the Khuloof try to claim that to change
a Munkar with your hand, you must seek permission of the ruler first.
The Shaykh refutes this type of idea)
Q: Is it permissible
to make the fundamentals of the Deen to be only the issues of Belief,
and make the branches the issues of action?
A: The fundamentals
of the Deen are not the Beliefs only. There is no separation between
the ‘Aqeedah and actions in the Deen. There is no where in the
Kitaab, nor the Sunnah that the fundamentals are the ‘Aqeedah
alone, and that the branches are actions alone. This differentiation
came from the Mu’tazilah, for they are the ones who differentiated
between the fundamentals and branches in this way.
Q:
Is it a condition for defensive or offensive Jihaad that a ruler exist?...
Imaam ‘Abdur-Rahmaan bin Hasan (rahimahullah) mentioned that no
one of the people of Knowledge ever made this condition, so do you know
of anyone to make this condition?
A: It is not one
of the conditions of Jihaad, neither defensive or offensive.
Regarding the defensive Jihaad, then it is clear,
because if the enemy enters the lands [of the Muslims], then [the obligation
to fight] is upon everyone who is able to fight him off; [concerning]
even the women it is obligatory upon them to fight, like the fuqahaa’
have mentioned, because this is a individual (‘ayn) obligation.
The [purpose of the] Imaam is for organization; so if one exists then
this is good, and if none exists it is still waajib upon the Muslims
to fight.
Q:
What is the difference between receiving the proof, and understanding
the proof (Hujjah)?... Which of them is a condition for establishing
the proof (Hujjah) [against a person]?
A: Receiving the
proof means that he has heard the Kitaab of Allaah, and heard that Allaah
has a Messenger; then the proof becomes established. In regards to understanding
it, it is not a condition, and no one has made it one.
And the difference is clear, for Allaah has told
us that from the Kuffaar are those that are blind, deaf and mute, and
calling him is like calling the beasts: they don’t hear anything
except a call and sounds.
And He has said that many of the people of Hell
have hearts that they don’t understand with, and that many of
them are more astray than cattle. And He (Jalla wa ‘alaa) said,
{They say, 'we don’t understand much
of what you say.'}
And even so, it has come in Saheeh al-Muslim,
“By Allaah, [there is] not a red or
white [person] who hears of me and
does not Believe, except that Allaah will make him fuel in Hell.”
So Allaah made their hearing the proof enough.
So if he hears, it is up to him to understand, and he should ask for
the understanding himself.
Q:
Leaving acting completely (meaning turning away from acting upon the obligations,
and leaving the prohibitions); has he turned away from submission?...
And is his Eemaan correct with [merely the] testification of the Truth
and affirming it (Tasdeeq wa Iqraar), while leaving all actions completely
without a cause?
A: This is not possible
to be straight, to leave acting completely! Because Islaam is action,
and not merely saying. And if a person said “Laa illaaha illallaah”
and believed in its correctness and that the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi
wa sallam) is True, but he does nothing at all - while his ability to
[is intact] - then he is ruled as a kaafir, and he is not from the people
of Islaam because it is an obligation of submission, following, and action.
Q:
And the saying that kufr is not possible except through Takdheeb (i.e.
declaring something that is agreed upon to be false); is this branching
off from the saying of the Murji’ah?
A: Kufr is many types,
and the Murji’ah and others of them from the people of innovation
said that it's basis must be Takdheeb only, but this saying opposes
the evidence and Truth.
And it is known that the Messenger was sent with
miracles and proofs that will cause the heart to be humble. Takdheeb
is the least that occurs in the peoples. The most common kufr is the
kufr of arrogance, denial, and stubborness, and Allaah has mentioned
regarding the Quraysh that they don’t belie the Messenger (sallallaahu
'alayhi wa sallam), but instead the Dhaalimeen to Allaah’s Aayaat
deny, and this is very common.
So the Scholars have divided kufr into categories:
Kufr of turning away, kufr of arrogance, kufr of belie (takdheeb), and
kufr of doubt.
And the evidences for this are many in the Kitaab
of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam).
And the story of Abi Taalib with the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa
sallam) is clear. And he used to testify to his Truth, and would say
that he does not lie, and did not bring any lies, and yet he is a Kaafir,
because he did not affirm with his tongue, nor submit with his actions.
(There is a final question, which is related to
what occurred between the Sahaabah, and refutes the Rawaafid. The question
is not related to the remainder of the questions, and I don’t think
there is a problem in this issue on this forum, inshaa’ Allaah)
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