Reader's feedback, May 2002
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: (none)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002
Dear "site"!
Its a bit strange to write that...
Well, I am writing to you for a personl question and some prace for your web-site. We (my husband and me) have for a
long time been looking for serious information (such as how to spank properly, safetly and with best result) but the net
is only full of sex sites and wellmeaning (but very theoretical) christian pro-spankingsites. When we found your site and
GoSin, we were so happy. Your site is very clear, demonstrative and practical without being petronising to us parents. When
there are different solutions to a problem, you present both of them and let the parent decide what is best for his children.
We are very happy to have "come home" to your site (...but our four lovely children, 3 girls and 1 boy, are not so happy...)
(...)
Thank you from all of us (Yes, incl the kids)
Yours sincerely
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Warner Bros. television
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002
Note: this letter is not anonymized on special request.
To whom it may concern
Hi, my name is Joelle Dawson
and I work with Warner Brothers Television. I am currently
working on a project with Warner Bros television on a new
show with a Radio Host from Los Angeles. We are working
on a television news talk show. The reason I am writing
is because the first issue of business that he would like
to cover is child discipline and spanking. The basis of
the show is to cover news and social issues that everyone
is effected by. He wants to do it in a respectful and
informative manner (more like Larry King and The Phil
Donahue Show) The show will be more of a panel discussion.
I am very interested in any family that would be
interested in talking with me about this issue and if
interested, participating in our program. The host of
the show agrees with spanking and feels that is is a
good form of discipline. Please call me when you get
this email. I would love to give you more information
regarding this. My toll free number is 1-877-485-2965
extension 4357 or 917-661-4357. Feel free to relay my
phone number to anyone that visits your website. You can
also reach J.P. (he works with me) at the same toll free
number, but his extension is 4312. Thank you for your
time. I hope to hear from you soon.
- Joelle Dawson
Warner Bros. Television
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: IS SOMETIMES NECESSARY TO USE THE ROD IN A HARD WAY '
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002
This is our historuy about it :
I am 48 years old and my wife are 45 ,and we have two children
a boy (10 years almost 11 old) and a guirl ( she is 12 , almost
13 years old ) during all our life we had hate the Corporal
Punishmet , it is natural , my wife and me was spanked when we
were very young , more exactly from 10 years to 14 years old .
For it , is very logical that of base we were always aganist the
use of the rod even knowing that..................THE BIBLE is
very clear about it .
From our children were born until they arrived to the 10 years
never they had give problem , but from this magic level( after
10 years ) age the history changed of a very radical way.
Disobedience , disorder , bad words , insults , and ...the top
were small thefts in shops of music discs , tobbaco shops , and
comics in small library shops and others .
We are very sad for all it , of course , we never think in spank
them , and we only punished them without , cinema , television ,
etc , etc , but their behaviour was the same.
At last we toke our children and went to a psicoanalist that speak
us during several hours and at end we paid him a lot of money and
all it for nothing because if well we follow the advices that he
gave us , it had not good results, and after we are like in the
first .
From that moment to spend only 14 or 15 days and one day in the
morning it was Sundey morning , my wife and me went our for take
a walk and we met in the street to who was my wife`s teacher, he
is a strong old man ( 77 or 78 years old , he is not working from
65 because from this age he is pensionist .
We start to speak about a lot of things and of course they asked
us for our children , and how they are going in their courses
etc etc and we had to explain the very big problem that we had
with them , the teacher hear us with interest but he did^t say
anything .
But in a moment of the talk we ask him if he can see a solution
to our problem and what we can do after of try all that it was
possible , he saw us and with a very serious face he told us :
I know that when i say you that i am going to say you , you will
think that i am a teacher of a past century but your are in
freedom of believe that you want , and at following act he said
this words : ( in my very poor english i try translate his
phrase )
I have that you need for to change the behaviour of your children
and i will give it to you if you follow my instructions point by
point . we was okey and we had think that if it was the solution
we would are very happy , he ended saying us that on Monday
( the next day ) he would go to our home at night and he would
give us the perfect solution to the problem .
And the Monday arrived and the teacher kept him word and he comes
at our home at the last our of the evening ( Children even was not
at home ) , we went to the living room and there the old teacher
show us a pack , he open the pack and toke out two thin rods , it
was a 60 centimeters of long , the rods was hard , and heavy ,
but very flexible , they can saw in our faces a big shock and
before we speak anything about it he said us : I know very well
which is your opinion about the corporal punishment because i
spanked to his wife when she was a bad guirl , and i can imagine
that she don`t have a good remembrance of the age when i had take
the rod and after of undressed her bum i had to spank her of a
way that your wife must remember very well, a very painfull bum
is impossible of forget and your wife know very well the way in
that i spanked her bum, when she was a bad guirl , today you both
can see the results , she is a good wife and a good mother if
well she need to have a few of autority over her children .
For finish he said us : the magic solution for your problem is
to use " the rod in your children`s bum " and if you said me that
you had try all then it mean that you must use the rod in a very
hard way , you must take your children and puting bent over a
table , is necessary do it with their bum without dressed ( if
you spank over of the dress you only get that your children
laugh of you ) and after take the rod and spank their bum hard ,
very hard , the number of strokes never must is down of 25 nor
never up 45 , i think that don`t is necessary that i follow in
my explanation because if you ask to your wife she can tell you
the way that you must follow and if not that she ask to her own
bum when i had spank her .
My wife`s old teacher finished saying that we don`t feel fear
when we must spank hard or very hard that the buttocks are ready
for it and that he did it durin all his lifer as teacher and
never had any problem .
The teacher go out and left us looking the two rods that the
teacher left us over the table , my wife saw me and he said me
that she was thinking in use it exactly in the same way that her
old teacher said , after of all in a thing the teacher are
right and it is that if well my wife remember very well the
pain that a rod of wood had cause in her buttocks also is certainly
that it never had cause her the death nor any illness nor
anyting , she only got her bum very painful and warm when her
beahviour was not right and she had know of first hand the
results in herself .
She was thinking with her face very serious and look at me and
say me : Starting here from this same moment we will use the rod
in the same way that my old teacher told us our must think that
we had try all another way of metods and all it failed , i told
her . and if the rod fail also ? she saw me , she had a very
sad rictus in her face , and told me : the rod is a way of
`punishment that never fail , it is very painful of course but
very secure if you don`t change your behaviour with 20 strokes
you will do it with 40 and if you don`t change with soft strokes
you will need hard or very hard strokes but the rod always win
to you and we have`t other way that begin to use it , and we
will do it thus from now .
My wife toke the two rods and put it in a corner in the washing
room and left it there .
Almost four weeks later , the teacher of our daugther ring us
for say that she want to speak us about our guirl , when she
arrived at our home , she told us that if we don`t take mesures
with her our guirl would follow a very bad way in her life,
in her school she was very disobedient and a lot of times she
arrived later to her class withour reason and all days to stay
near of our guirl was equal that to stay inside of a revolution
withour end . We promised that we speak her about her behaviour
in her school and that we expect that she would change it .
When this same night our daugther arrived at home , her mother
call her and speak about the problem , but the guirl is following
the same way of rebelliousness then her mother went to the
washing room and taking one of the two rods that the old teacher
gave us showed it to the guirl and told her :
THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU DISOBEY TO YOU TEACHERS IN YOUR SCHOOL
OR TO US AT HOME YOU WILL BE SPANKED ON YOU BUM WITH THIS ROD
, YOU CAN CHOSE WHAT WAY YOU WANT FOR LEARN , OR THE GOOD
WAY OR THE BAD WAY , AND I CAN ENSURE TO YOU THAT THE BAD WAY
IS VERY VERY PAINFUL .
A few days later , her teacher ring us again and ask us if we
can pass for the school this same day , we went in the same
moment and there she told us that their patience was ended and
they are thinking in spell her , and in the next teachers
reunion they will speaking about it .We told her that please
say us what is the new problem that they have with our daughter
, and she told us that this same morning a police catch her
when she was robbing in a shop , it was few , only several
compact disc of music , a tobbaco box and two comics , my wife
and me are very ashamed , my wife only can said i am sorry
but from now all this is finish , let her arrive at home ,
today it will be a day that she never will forget ! .
We come back home and this same day when our daugher arrived ,
it was about 8 hours of the evening her mother called her and
in the middle of the room she asked a explanation about that her
teacher said about the small thiefs that she was doing , the
guirl saw to her mother and told her that she was a stupid and
that she do that she want and that she (her mother was a
bitch`s daugther ) my wife after of hear this toke the guirl
with a small tape she proceded to tie her hands in the back
and after went to the washing room and brought one of the
two rods and taking her daughter put her bent over the table
of the living room , undressed her bum and taking again the
rod began to spank her , our daugther crying and crying and
her tears fall in the floor ,but my wife following with
the spanking , she gave her more than 40 strokes and she did
it so hard that when she ended there was a few of blood in her
buttocks , her mother clean the blood and said to her daughter
that the next time it would be worst even , and from this same
moment always that she have a bad behaviour she will get a
very very painful bum .
After of that painful day our guirl began to change her
behaviour but from then even was necessary spank her ( of the
same way ) several times before she changed quite her
behaviour .
Today our daugther is a very good guirl ,now she never give
problems to her teachers at school , she is a model in her
class among the another pupils, of course her teachers know
very well the kind of treatment that was necessary that her
mother gave her ( because we told them ) , but they don`t
tell us anithing about it , they only are very happy with the
change of our daughter , in the teachers reunion that they
had they toke the resolution of don`t expell her of her
school because now it was not necessary .
Today we are a happy family without problems with our children
, now when the guirl of the boy do a very bad foul , if it
is necessary we take the rod and we use it without fear , as
my wife`s old teacher said the buttocks are made ready for
receive the rod even when it can be necessary give a hard
spanking .
For end this messagge only say a thing :
MY WIFE`S OLD TEACHER WAS RIGHT
Please i would wish that you that had red this messagge send
me your opinion about of our own history ( Excusse my very
low english level )
Thanks
(from Argentinia)
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: my spankings
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002
Note: this letter is not anonymized on special request.
Dear Site,When i found your site,i thought it great to that other boys my age
were getting the same sort of punishments i received,i thought i was the only
one,still being spanked that is,in my late teens.Would be happy then for you to
show my e,mail address,any boys willing to talk about their experiences,or im
willing , to talk about mine.Im 18 now,one more year to do at high school(got to
repeat a year,damm!)4 years ago mum married,i got a new stepdad,i was wild at
the time,he took me in hand,as an ex army officer he had very set,strict ideas
on how to raise boys.Age 14,my younger brothers age now,i had no choice but to
accepted dads regime,looking back,i can see now that it did do me real good, but
now im 18,i think im too old to be treated in this way,dad very much
disagrees,he thinks now i need it more than ever.Home life then is
strict,rules,cerfew,chores,cold shower every morning before school,Bible
studies,every night,church,3 times a week,lots of sports,something every
day,other than school,shorts worn all other times,in and out the house.All this
is to strenghten my mental,and physical body,ready to take what comes at me in
life(dads words)Now im 18,there are 2 things i hate,1/wearing shorts,2/ the
punishments i receive,at 18 ive tried to convince dad im too old for both,he
thinks not.All last winter,hanging out with my mates,snow on the ground,me in
shorts,my mates think im tough,they dont knw i have no choice.As for
punishments,since i was 14 dad has took a paddle to my butt,for serious
offences,now aged 18 i still get the same paddling,just harder,and more swatts.A
few days ago i got in to real trouble,i new what was to come.Please forgive me
if i go on some,only ive never talked about my spankings to any one
before.After a long talking to,dad sends me up to my bedroom to get ready for a
spanking,i have to report back down to his study in,t,shirt and underpants,wait
outside the study door,when called in,dad is sittg on the chair in the center of
the room,i go over,stand by his knee drop my pants,then bend over his knee,bare
butt in the air.With his paddle,this time i got 48 swatts,my legs kicking,me
crying by the time he had finished,y butt red all over,sore and killing
pain.Spanking over i lay on my bed,face down,waiting for the pain to ease.I
think im too old for spanking,dad does not,as i say good too know im not
alone.In the last 3 months i have had 4 spankings,like it or not i have to
admite they do work,will be on best behaviour for the next few weeks.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: I'm 14 and wanted to be spanked..
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002
Hi, my name is S(...) and I'm 14 years old, about to be 15.
I read your article on what to do if you want to be spanked
and your parents dont want that. A lot of my friends at
church were spanked, and i didnt think it was fair that i
got away with everything. My parents didnt punish me and I
felt guilty for getting away with it, so i told them, and
they said they'd talk about it. The next week, I got caught
cheating in school and they just grounded me one weekend.
Arggg. So I asked my friends parents to talk to them about it.
I just didn't feel right, hearing about my friends spanking.
So my friends parents talked to mine. My parents talked to
the pastor, who said that spanking might not be a bad idea.
About a month later, I came home an hour late, and my
parents asked me where I was. I lied that I was over a
friends house, but my friend called my house! That was the
first chance to get my spanking. I can't say I liked it.
My father yanked down my underwear and put me across his
lap, and slapped my butt till I was screaming. But I felt
better afterwords, and I think twice about doing anything
bad again.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Gender factor/humiliation
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002
I am a sociologist who has researched this particular
subject for 11 years. I do agree with spanking. However,
parents need to be concious of the degree of humiliation
that occurs when bare-bottomed spanking takes place in the
presence of others - specifically girls/boys. When I was
in elementary school, spanking took place in the front of
the classroom wherein boys and girls not only received
spankings, but witnessed them as well. Some people
advocate humiliating their child by spanking them in the
presence of other children as a deterent. There is a
great deal of research that shows a large number of people
spanked in front of members of the opposite sex develop
masochistic and sadistic ideation, as well as alcoholism
and drug abuse. I believe that the mere knowing that the
others know one received a good spanking is humiliation
enough. I would want my child to be a respectful citizen
and not a depressed sociophobic. It is also very important
to tell your child how much you love them even after they
have earned a spanking. Keep up the good work on your
site.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: my daughter's next spanking....
Date: Tue, 7 May 2002
Hello again. I read your article on "cooperative children"
and how they should be empowered with choices to make discipline
a learning, interactive experience. It wasn't very long after I
read the article that C(...)
came in late and lied about her
whereabouts, so I was able to recently use the article.
When it was established that my daughter needed a spanking,
I told her that at her age, she should be able to decide
certain aspects of her disipline. I learned that she prefers
to be spanked on the living room sofa, because she felt like
a "little girl" being sent to her room. Moreover, she looked
at me sheepeshly and said that she would prefer to leave her
underwear on for the same reason. Yet there was no room for
compromise on this issue. Since her offense was particularily
bad, I was very stern with her this time, taking her by the
wrist, telling her to "get them down" and instructing her to
lay on the sofa. At 5'6, this seemed to be an unweildy
position. She agreed to laying in my lap in exchange for a
spanking in the living room, and so I obliged by guiding her
over my lap and beginning the 5 minute spanking. One point I
haven't noticed on your site is the grabbing of her arm
behind her back.. is this recommended? Oftentimes, particularily
later in the spanking, I grab her arm for stability as slap
her bare bottom. In any case, we have a more enriching
discipline process by allowing my daughter to chose the
location of spanking. Afterwords, she confided that she wants
to be spanked harder with less time.... hopefully I will
not have to comply, but something tells me that she will be
in need of another good spanking soon, at which point I will
report back with the results of the harder/shorter spank.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Return to discipline
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002
Dear Spank with love,
I think your site is absolutely wonderful, and only wish such
instruction has been available in my teens. If I have any criticism, it is
that maybe under the current coercions of Political Correctness, you sound a
bit lenient.
The canings I got at an English boarding school were designed to
deter, and weals you could loose a pencil in and bruises lasting a week and
more were the accepted norm. However, it was a very cold and military
affair, and any concept of love had absolutely nothing to do with it, so
resentment and anti social attitudes often got the upper hand. By the time I
was 18 I was arguing I was too old for such treatment.
This theme of degradation and abuse has taken over in the West, and we have
suffered an erruption of delinquency and social decline ever since.
Why our Politicians cannot recognise this obvious connection by now
defies reason!
My life went downhill fast, and remained so for some time until I met
a senior Mentor who revealed the negative attitudes I had adopted against
traditional discipline.
It was suggested I submit to the beatings I ran away from, and go through
those where my attitude was negative and rebellious. Eventually I complied
and within a few weeks of some really sound doses of strap and cane, I had
stopped smoking and drinking.
I have wonderd often ever since, how on earth would my life have
turned out, how much suffering could I have avoided if I had know the loving
kind of firm discipline in a Christian upbringing that you read of in sites
such as this?
Life has continued to improve, albeit gradually, ever since this
encounter. It has also meant a completely new understand of 'Thy Rod and thy
staff to comfort me'.
Keep up the good work. T.L.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002
Hiya!
I'm a 12 year old girl, I read your site. It's good for people
who spank 'n all, I never been spanked but only once. Let me
tell you my story, then i'll give you my point of view on how
I feel about spanking.
When I was 10 I would come home from school each day, watch
my favorite show, Pokemon, then do my homework. My mom always
helped me with my homework, since I didn't listen in school,
and I hated it! My mom is really nice too. Anyhoo She said
"When your show gets over, we'll do your homework." as usally
I said ok. I sat in her room with her and watched it. When
the show ended they have a little music video known as the
"Pokerap" wich I loved to hear, it's only 1 min or so. My mom
told me to turn the Tv off, I didn't since she said when it's
"over" we'll do my homework, and technically it wassnt over.
So I kept it on, since my mom and I never go back on our word.
Then my dad came in, turned off the tv, and said he'll spank
me if I turn it on again. I was surprised, yet mad. I hated
my dad, for things he said that hurt me and changed my life,
how he treated me, and so on. I sat on the floor and me and
my mom did my Homework. I didn't get a problem so I worked
it numbers of times and didn't get it. My dad got mad cause
I didnt get it, I was trying so hard I broke down crying to
myself, knowing this was so hard! My dad told me to try
harder, I did really. Then I asked my mom if she would help
me, nicely. After hearing that my dad sat on the side of
the bed and spanked me over his lap, clothed. I was crying
cause I didn't get the problem. Inside I knew I was getting
spanked, it didn't hurt, it was as if he was spanking me
with a pillow. Then after the 10 swat spanking he threw me
to the ground against the chest. He really did throw me, it
hurt when he did that, he seemed to do that alot. I'm strong
so I didn't cry. I stopped crying. I looked at him as if I
wanted to do something bad to him. I didn't deserved to be
spanked. I didn't know a answer to a question. Then I told him
to "Shut up." he got mad at me for saying that ( I always
did, why'd he get mad now? ) he didn't do anything though.
After all that he was probally drunk, he always is.
Now it's 2 years after that, he says i'm "Stupid" or "Not
smart" he doesnt punish me anymore, for some reason. I
really am never punished, not for anything. My parents cuss
to me, I cuss back. It's fair right? Thats a good thing in
my life, is that we treat each other the same. Me and my
dad never talk anymore, due to how I am now. I keep
everything from my family, i'm just a shadow now. They
don't know that I hurt inside, how many bad things happend
to me. 3 of my best friends died in my life, it's sad.
Actually one of my friends a week or go died..
Http://ttsp.pokecute.cc is the URL to her shrine. I hope
she R.I.P. I'm sorry for getting off the subject a little
there, I just felt like I needed to tell someone the story.
(...)
Hello again.
I'm sorry I didn't get my point across in the last e-mail.
My point is I like Spanking is wrong. It hurts the child inside.
It makes children seek revenge to their parents. When I was 11
I was thinking when I had kids i'll spank them. But seeing
your site, witch is a great site for Spankers, I know know
not to spank my kids when I have some. Thank you, SWL, you
helped me a lot.
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