Reader's feedback, Jan 2003
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Feedback
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003
I am a 38 year-old widower with two daughters: 16 and 12.
My younger daughter recently landed on your site and showed
it to me. Thank you for providing such a well thought-out
presentation. I find that I agree with most of what you say.
But I have a couple of exceptions.
First, I don't agree with your "same sex" spanking concepts.
Yes, I recognize the danger: a father spanking his daughter
might cause some sexual response. But a frank discussion
about the difference between having feelings and acting on
those feelings should deal with that issue. And these days,
there's so much homosexuality on the TV and elsewhere that
I'm not sure "same sex" spankings wouldn't face the same
danger anyway.
My wife died 4 years ago. Even before that, whenever the
girls needed a spanking I was the one who spanked them.
The Bible holds fathers responsible for spanking their
children (See Ephesians 6:4 for example). Abdicating that
responsibility is not an option. As long as the father is
in the home, it's his job to do whatever spanking is needed.
Second, I see a problem with your definitions of cooperative
and uncooperative children. My girls kind of fit your
definition of cooperative children: they know that I love
them and they agree that they need to be spanked when they
misbehave. And they don't generally "resist" being spanked
for a very good reason: I use the "bare hand on bare bottom"
method, but I have a little switch that I reserve for really
serious misbehavior.
Once, when my older daughter was 15, she started trying to
hit me while I was taking her up to the master bedroom for
a spanking. I simply asked her, "Do I need to get The Switch?"
Her reaction was a frantic "Nooooooo!" and there was no more
problem with resistance.
But there is a difference between resistance and reluctance.
My daughters are very reluctant when they're about to get
a spanking, and I expect them to be: it confirms that the
spankings are effective. As soon as I tell one of them that
she is going to get a spanking, she immediately starts
begging and pleading, trying to talk her way out of the
spanking, "No, Daddy! I'm sorry! Don't spank me! I won't
do it again! Please! I'll be good!"
And, as I'm taking her upstairs for the spanking, she holds
back and tries to avoid the trip. She grabs hold of the post
at the bottom of the stairs and it usually takes a couple of
smacks on the seat of her pants to encourage her to move on
up to the bedroom. The same thing happens at the bedroom
doorway. And there's no thought of her willingly laying
herself across my lap for the spanking: I have to "take"
her across my lap! You mention a need to keep the child
from kicking while she's being spanked. I disagree. If my
daughters aren't kicking and crying and wiggling while I'm
spanking them, I'd think that I'm not spanking them hard
enough.
I don't consider any of this to be "resistance". They are
simply frightened young girls who are scared of the spanking.
Far from being angry with such behavior, my emotions are
more a mix of gentle sympathy, tender pity, and just a
touch of amusement: I can see myself at their age when I
was about to "get it" from my own Dad.
Thank you again.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: My experience
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003
I grew up in a fairly 'normal' seeming family with
good, God-fearing values. My dad was less involved in
my discipline. I guess my mother felt dad was too much
the absentee father, neglected to 'deal' with the
discipline issue. He also was a bit more
"Jeffersonian" in his faith.
Thus, it fell to my mother to be the diligent one in
bringing me up, administering discipline, which she
felt God wanted her to do. By white liberal standards,
it would be called child abuse. My mother did not go
for this "boys will be boys" malarkey. NO WAY.
It was strictly zero tolerance as far as she was
concerned. Boys need to learn respect for all
Authority. Even respect for Women. Sure, there were
times I surreptitiously did my boyish stunts, and she
did not catch me. But maybe God caught me!!!
America looks down on Africa and other lands where
they still believe "the rod and reproof" give wisdom.
No, mother did not use some Black sjambok like in
rural "Black" Africa. But she did use the strap
freely, and didn't allow no coverup, either.
God's wrath seems far more severe than it actually is,
because he loveth those whom he scourgeth. A pat on
the wrist is a modern "white liberal" invention.
No. I do not believe that hateful abusive people are
good parents. But God uses imperfect people. He even
uses sinners. (Of which, all of us are one kind of
sinner or other).
My mother and dad were NOT hateful or abusive. I do
not call a good hard (well deserved) spanking to be
abuse. NO! Do I recommend it? Not necessarily. But in
my case, it was probably the best thing.
I will not bother you with any more details. The
particulars just seem to keep coming and coming. It's
funny that it is so fresh in my mind, yet childhood is
over so quickly.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: severity of a spanking
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003
I feel that the severity of a spanking should depend on what
the child has done and whether it is a first offence or a second offence.
For the first offence a spanking over the Childs clothes.
For a repeated offence a spanking over the child under pants
If a child repeats the offence for a third time a spanking over a bare bottom.
It is also a good idea after the first spanking has been given
to tell the child what will happen if he/she repeats the offence
this should deter the child repeating the same offence.
However if you have spanked the child three time and the child
continues than you should seek professional help.
The spanking should always be reasonable but has got to hurt.
There will therefore be tears and a lot of rubbing of a red
bottom afterwards. If you do it properly you won't need to do it often.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: set spankings
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003
another reccomendation i would like to offer {and alot may not agree w/ me}}
is the set time spanking. the child knows that spankings will be administered
before bed. for this reason i made dropseat pjs and the children wear these
on nights that they will be rcvg a spanking. after baths they put these on
w/out underwear and go to their rooms. dad or i go in and talk to the child
and drop the pj seat, administer the spanking to the bare fanny and discuss
and comfort child. all is a fresh start in the morning. the only time we
change this is if we need to administer a spanking at others homes or if
child is ill-behaved in public and then a trip to the restroom is done
promptly with a pantsdowner and a short discussion. let me know how all other
pro-spankers feel about this.
ps, for these occassions w/out
dropseat pjs, esp for the older kids, the pantsdowner are the jeans and we
leave undies on and pull together to expose the bottom cheeks only.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: No subject
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003
I am 14 years old and I live in the weat side of Charlotte. My friends and I
are really addicted to grafiti. We go to the train yard and tag on trains.
Well one day me and my bud C(...), got caught by the railroad officers that
walk, and check the tracks. They took us down town and we called our parents.
I coudn't get my dad because he works on weekends and is only off on
Thursdays and Tuesdays, so I went home with C(...). His folk were mad! They
sat their and asked us how many times we tagged, and were really good at
lettering so they didn't buy it was our first time. So C(...)'s dad who is
huge, too him upstairs and really tore him up. He didn't cry but man I was so
embarrased for him. I went upstairs to my complex and waited for my dad. He
finally got home and then Mr. J(...) called him and I got a warning, he said I
am not bailing you out of Juevinal hall. He said do what you want and
remember it. I felt kind of bad because C(...)'s dad was worried we would get
hurt or get pinned in the track or killed, and the money we spent buying
spray cans could have helped pay the rent. His dad really worried but my dad
didn't seem to care. It really does not seem fair. I would rather get spanked
and be worried about than not worried about at all. But what kind of teenager
ask their dad to whip their butt. Sometimes I wish I did get spanked then I
would know he cared about my safety or wellbeing.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: question
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003
Please do not show my name or address because though I agree
with spanking I am still very embarressed by it. My parents
passed when I was eight years old, my big brother was 18 at
the time and after a long battle with family he ended up
raising me. My brother beleived in spanking and as far as I
can remember of my dad he spanked me as well but never with
a belt, only his hand on my bare bottom. My brother continued
this and still does when I break any rules, I am 17 by the way
and he is 27. He uses the belt when I have seriously messed up,
I remember each wipping with his belt, Ive had six since I
was 8 yrs old and the sixth one came to me last night which
is why Im on this site. I dont feel I should be spanked at
my age now, though I did mess up I dont agree I should have
had a spanking. I decided to sneak out of the house last night
to be with my friends because J(...)
doesent allow me out past 11pm. When I got home he was waiting
in my room with the belt. I cried and begged but that only
earned me two more licks. When he spanks me with the belt he
gives me a choice either over the bed or he sits on the edge
and allows me to hold on to him while I receive my spanking,
I always choose to hold on to him because of the pain. Last
night I got seven, and it hurt a lot. Afterwards all was
forgiven and he tucked me in kissed my forhead and went to
bed while I cried myself to sleep. Normally for minor offenses
I get the paddle, the one he got from being in his fraternity,
over his knee bare, at least when I get his belt I am allowed
to keep my panties on for my spanking. I get paddled maybe two
times a month and though it hurts I cry more from humiliation.
Other times if I am not listening or talk back he will just
come right up and swat my bottom about 4 or five times with
his hand or if the wooden spoon is around with that. The only
problem with that is it doesent matter where we are, even
in front of mine or his friends and has happened several times
in front of his girlfriend, which I hate. I love my brother
and appreciate all he has done for me but I feel he is hendering
me growing up by spanking me still at 17, I feel a spanking
should stop at age 10 or so. Please let me know if u agree or
not. Thanks for your site.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: naughty girl
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003
Hi,
My name is E(...), a 16-year-old girl.
My uncle showed my mom and me your site on his computer. We found
it very interesting and he allowed me to give you my reaction.
I have loving parents who I in turn love dearly and a younger
brother of 12 years of age.
Both my parents advocate spanking as an excellent punishment for
naughty children.
Unfortunately I am rather often a naughty girl and need to be
punished. Most of the times I go over mom’s lap and get a good
and painful spanking. Sometimes mom uses only her hand but mostly
she uses a very old wooden hairbrush that during several
generations only has been applied for spanking the bare bottoms
of naughty girls.
I fully agree with the way mom punishes me notwithstanding the
result is a flaming red, glowing and painful bottom. I feel I
have earned a good spanking and it does me very good.
In average I got 1 or 2 times a month on the bare bottom. My
little brother is a very good and obedient boy and does hardly
need a spanking. But if he gets it mom always uses only her hand.
Until I was 10 years old a got my spankings in the living room,
but being older mom thought daddy’s presence was improper. And
now I get my spankings in my own bedroom. When I have been very
naughty mom gives me a scolding and orders me to go to my room
and promise me a spanking. If she intends to use the hairbrush
she orders me to lay that implement on my bed.
In my room I take of my dress and slip and then lower my knickers
till below my knees. If ordered I put the hairbrush on my bed.
Then I must stand in the corner with a bared bottom until mom
arrives. As soon as mom comes into my room (it never takes a long
time) she sits on my bed and tells me to lie down over her lap.
I obey and then I get my spanking that takes a few minutes. Mom
never spanks very hard. Nevertheless I always cry, but not very
loud or long.
After the spanking I have to stay in the corner, but during the
first five minutes I am not allowed to rub my bottom. After 15
minutes I may leave the corner and then I embrace mom, kisses
her and ask her for forgiveness. Then mom kisses me tenderly
and tells me that she loves me.
Hereafter she leaves my room and I can rearrange my clothes.
A few month ago I found out that mom often cries after she has
spanked me because she hates to do it, but she feels that it is
her duty. As I know that now it made me to I improve my behavior
in such a way that I didn’t need to be spanked the last three months.
But I know that as long I live with my parents I always can get
a spanking if I don’t behave correctly.
When I will be married (I hope within five years) and I have
kids (I like to have 4 or 5) they will be raised in the same
manner as I am and if they are naughty I will spank them with
love, just as mom does.
(in another mail:)
Dear SWL,
My uncle showed me your reply and I thank you for your interest
in my story. He gave me permission to send you this second mail.
At (dutch) schools every form of C.P.
is strictly forbidden and I thought there were not many parents
that still spanked their children.
But now I think I am wrong. My uncle showed me some internet
sites from which I learned that spanking is still applied in many
homes in my country.
In my class there is only one girl (as far as I know, because not
all the girls will admit it) who gets at spanking at home being
naughty. Her father is an army officer and very strict. If he
thinks she need to be spanked he orders her mother to do so.
Two days after mom and I read your site I have had a discussion
with my parents about spanking and there I told them that I prefer
a good bare bottom spanking to any other punishment and my little
brother feels the same. This means that we still will be spanked
if our parents think we need it.
After my mom has read about "spanking implements" on your site
she will no longer use the hairbrush for a spanking, but only her
hand. Mom also told me that if I need a spanking in future I don't
have to wait in my room, standing in the corner until she comes.
She will now directly go with me to my room, order me to raise my
skirts and lower my knickers and then take me over her lap. But
the corner time after the spanking will be unchanged.
I will make the remark that until now I don't have any experience
with the new procedure as I have not been spanked after mom and I
have read your site.
I feel sometimes that I am a very old-fashioned girl because I
don't smoke, drink alcohol or use drugs and I always wear dresses.
And I am sure that I will not have sex before I am married with a
man I truly love.
The day before yesterday my little brother went home soaking wet
and cold. He had been on a small frozen lake and ignored the warning
that the ice was not safe. Mom took him to the bathroom and while
she filled the bath with warm water she undressed him and put him
in the bath And then he had to tell her what had happened. My
brother is no liar and he confessed that he had ignored the warning
about unsafe ice. After being warmed up in the bath mom told him
that he should go to bed. She gave him a dry vest, but before he
could take on his pajamas she took him over her lap and he got a
spanking, as he never had before. During at least 5 minutes I heard
the slapping sounds of moms hand on his bottom and his cries. He
was still crying being in bed but as soon as he had calmed down mom
went to his room to kiss him and to tell him that she had spanked
him that way because she loved him so much and she would for nothing
in the whole world lose him. Still sobbing he promised never more
to be so stupid. I felt very sorry for him, but I think mom was
absolutely right.
I hope that other girls of my age sometimes will give their opinion
on what I wrote to you.
With love,
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Spank me!
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003
I am 12 years old and living in the UK. I think that my parents should spank
me when I am bad, but I cannot pluck up the courage to ask them to.
I feel that I should be punished when I do wrong, but my parents do not really
punish me. What should I do?
(in another mail:)
I would like to add a quote to the quotes page on your website:
I am 12 and have never been spanked in my life. Never. I believe I shold have
been, because I argue and disobey quite a lot. When I am an adult I will spank
my children, because after extensive research on the net I have found it to
be a good and loving punishment.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Mentoring
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003
Hello, feel free to display my email. I have written to you
before, I am a mentor in southwest missouri that uses spanking
on college age young men that need correction. I just wanted
to say what wonderful changes it makes in their behaviors and
the way they act differently with it. Keep up the good work!
If anyone wants a college mentor in the Joplin, Missouri area,
write me. God Bless! Joshua Braun
(Note: E-Mail address deleted on request in May 2006)
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: (none)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003
Hello. I am a 16 year old boy who strongly believes in spanking
teenagers although I myself do not get spanked. When I was younger
I got spanked and it did me a world of good.
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: corrected daughter
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003
I finally spanked my daughter after "grounding" and "no TV"
worked. The results wer marvellous. no more sulleness and
much improved behaviour.Any others found the same?
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: (none)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003
I found your section regarding the spanking of
older children and teenagers to be insightful and
informative.
I am 19 years old. I attend a big name
University, where I am a pre-med student. I also play
football and baseball.
I have dreams and goals and I want a successful
life...problem was, I lacked self-discipline.
My Dad is great, he has always been my best
friend. However, when I needed a spanking, he made
sure I got one...right through high school. It never
bothered me that he still spanked me, even as I grew
older. It was a personal matter between he and I.
Last term, my grades fell. I was angry and
frustrated with myself. Anything other than top notch
grades could hinder my chances at acceptance to med
school. I called my Dad, now retired, for support and
empathy...he came to visit.
He was hurt and disappointed in my academic
performance. Though not terrible, it wasn't at all
what I'm capable of. His lecture alone, his
disappointment in me, had me in tears. He then said
that if I lack the self discipline and maturity to set
priorities in my life, he would do it for me. He then
sent me to my room. At first I wasn't sure what to
do...I'm 19 years old, after all! As I stood there,
mouth agape, in my moment of indecision and shock over
having been sent to my room, he informed me that he
intended to spank my bottom for being irresponsible
with my life. I went to my room.
About 30 minutes later, he came into my bedroom
and sat down on my bed beside me. I felt like I was
10, I had been crying and wondering how in the world I
had ever gotten myself into the mess I was in. He
talked to me, told me how proud he was when I had been
accepted to a big name school, told me how much he
loved me...the conversation was almost worse than the
spanking that I now realized I needed.
Everything was so familiar..."S(...), stand up in
front of me." I did as I was told. He undid my
jeans, and lowered them to my ankles, he lowered my
briefs to my knees. He then placed a pillow near the
edge of the bed for me to lie across, and one near my
face for me to hold and cry into. "Lie down, S(...),"
he said as he was removing his belt...I hated the belt
far worse than anything else he had ever spanked me
with...he always used it well, with quiet resolve. I
had promised myself that I wouldn't plead with him not
to spank me, I was too old for that. However, faced
with a bare bottom, and the belt in Dad's hand, that
promise was soon forgotten...I pleaded, he ignored
me...and gave me a the very well deserved spanking of
my life! He then spanked me with his hand all the way
to the corner, where he left me to cry for about an
hour.
When he came back to my room, he was kind and
caring. He told me that I could pull my pants up and
come sit with him on the bed. We had a great talk, I
committed myself to more study, less play time. He
promised me more spankings if they were necessary to
help me.
That was almost a year ago, and I did receive one
more spanking before I kept my promises to be more
responsible with my life. I love my Dad. He did what
I needed him to do, which is his job as a parent. At
19, an arguement could be made for my ability to
manage my own life, obviously I should have been able
to, however, that wasn't the case. I still needed my
Dad to be my parent and have authority in my life.
I'm very lucky that he is the committed parent that he
is. Chronologically speaking, 19 is too old to
spank...the thing is, I had behaved like a 10 year
old, assuming no responsiblity for the outcome my
actions may have brought to my life.
Thank-you for this website. I was almost
positive that I was alone in my beliefs that a good
old fashioned bare bottom spanking at the hand of a
loving and well meaning parent was ok, even at 19! I
will turn 20 next week, and I sincerely hope that my
days of needing to be spanked are a thing of the past!
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