Click on Little Jack Horner for history of Ancestor, Sir John Horner, son of Thomas HORNER of Mells, member of Parliament and Sheriff of Somersetshire. His son, SIR JOHN HORNER, was knighted and was the "LITTLE JACK HORNER" of nursery rhymes, with sarcastic reference to the family having obtained lands formerly held by the Abbot of Glastonbury.

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Other sources relating Sir Thomas Horner to the Sims/Symes family:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thesimsfamily/sims/tree/3403.htm

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thesimsfamily/sims/tree/9669.htm

See:  Ancestors of Curt Edward Sims JR

    4    John Symes (1571 - 1661) & **Amy Horner (Abt 1585 - Bef 1658)

Ancestors of Curt Edward Sims JR

 

1    William Symes & Agnes Colander

William married Agnes Colander-[113] [MRIN:56]. (Agnes Colander-[113] was born in Somerset, England.) from: http://www.jjohnston.us/family/112.htm

 

2    John *Pariarch Symes (1515 - ~1563) & Lady Jane Petty ( - Aft 1563)

*(ref: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cribbs/alaine/fam00043.htm)

John married Lady Jane PETTY. (Lady Jane PETTY was born about 1509 in Somerset, England and died in Somerset, England.)
(ref: http://www.whosyomama.com/gabroaddrick3/5415.htm)

Notes for JOHN SYMES:
Some just have the name LADY JANE.
REF: SM Patriarch; Barwick Papers Pat Porter 98, Bill Sims 99

DESCENDANTS OF JOHN SYMES:
John Symes and Lady Jane owned "Barwick Manor"

Letter of Administration grantee on 25 May 1563 to Nicholas Norden of Milverton,
Somerset during the majority of Joan Symes, sister of defunct.
Letter of administration granted to Jane, his wife, 1 Sept. 1563.

John drowned in a boat
Jane Morris 1938, Adam Symes and His Descendants, has the death date as Before September 1, 1563.

William Symes was very wealthy as evidenced by his will which showed that he owned six manors, a mill and other property.
Ref: WFT Vol. 3 - #6273

Granted arms in 1591. Received pedigree in 1623.
Estate was called Poundsford.
Symes history found partly in "Adam Symes and His Descendents" by Jane Morris, publ. Dorrance & Company, Philadelphia 1938.
(Ref: WFT Vol. 5 - #0683)

(from: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cribbs/alaine/nti00163.htm)

 

3    William Symes (1540 - 27 Jul 1597, Charde, Somerset, England, at age 57) & Elizabeth Hill (1542 - Aft 1597)

(William married Elizabeth HILL, daughter of Robert HILL and Alice CLARKE, in 1570 in Somersetshire, England.
(Elizabeth HILL was born in 1542 in Taunton, Somersetshire, England and died after 1597 in Poundsford, Somersetshire, England.)
(ref: http://www.whosyomama.com/gabroaddrick3/5393.htm)

Sir William Symes

·         Born: 1540, Chard, England
·         Marriage: Elizabeth Hill-[60]
·         Died: 27 Jul 1597, Charde, Somerset, England, at age 57

 General Notes:

Merchant, owned 6 manors (Barwick, Boure, Stoford, Somerset and Frankham, Dorset and the one he lived in in Charde), a mill in West Coker and many properties. Donated personal estate for a school still existing.

Coat of Arms awarded 1591: Azure, 3 scallops ; the kind that look like the Shell Gas shell but upside down one above the other, he must have been religious becuase the escallop in heraldry represents a pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

Will proofed by Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Steward, Knt. Lord Seymour of Pomeroy, Devon, England. .probably Jane Seymour's (Henry VIII wife) brother

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William married Elizabeth Hill-[60] [MRIN:29], daughter of Robert Hill-[81] and Alice Clark-[84]. (Elizabeth Hill-[60] was born in 1542 in Somerset, England and died on 27 Jul 1597 in Yard, England.)  from: http://www.jjohnston.us/family/59.htm

 

4    John Symes (1571 - 1661) & **Amy Horner (Abt 1585 - Bef 1658)

AKA Sir John Symes

• Born: Mar 4, 1572, Chard, Pitminster Parish, Somerset, England

• Marriage: Amy Horner Abt 1605, England

• Died: Oct 21, 1661, Winterbourne, Frampton Cotterell Parish, Gloucester, England at age 89

• Buried: St. Peter's Church, Frampton Cotterell Parish, Gloucester, England

General Notes:

The Visitation of Somerset, 1623: John Symes of Poundsford in com. Som. Esq. living 1623. m. Amy d. of Thomas Horner of Mell co. Com.

H. U. Sims FINDINGS ON THE SIMS FAMILY by Marilyn Barfield Mrs. Symes of Westbury 1828 Pat Porter DESCENDENTS OF JOHN SYMES

ED: Matriculated from Exter College, Oxford 23-2-1586 at age of 14. BA 9-7-1591 at age of 19 Matriculated in Lincoln's Inn 1589

WILL: 5/10/1658 proved 19/12/1661 Poundisford, Somersetshire, England To my nephew Arthur Symes, 100 pounds at the end of jis apprenticeship; I am possessed of many years to come and undetermined of the Mansion of Poundsford, my executors shall convey it to William Symes, first son of John Symes, dec'd, he not to vex or prosecute any suit against Henry and Thomas Symes; To my two nieces, Elizabeth and Grace Symes, 800 pounds to be paid out of Poundsford; John and Edward Symes, sons of my son Thomas Symes; All residue to sons Henry and Thomas Symes, executors.

OCC: Barrister, Lincoln's Inn 1589 Country Gentleman and Knight of Shire. Member of Parliment for Somerset 1624 & 1625 Justice of Peace 1612 - Civil War (40 years) High Sheriff for Somerset 1627 Knight of the Shire

INFO: John inherited his father's property in 1597. A Monument to Memory of John Symes in Church of Bishop Hull Greatly renound for wisdom, justice, integrety & sobriety. When war broke out he took the King's side and had to flee to Winterborne, Frampton Cottrell Parish in Glouchester when Cromwell confiscated his property. After Cromwell's death, Charles II was crowned King in 1660 and the land was restored to the family. John was an old man by & was probably to weak to return.

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St. Peter's Church, Frampton Cotterell:
http://www.framptoncott.co.uk/peters.html:

A plaque dated 1623, in the south aisle, commemorates John Symes MP of Somerset, who sought refuge here during the Civil War.

Much, much more can be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thesimsfamily/sims/tree/3389.htm

**Amy Horner Born: Abt 1585, Mells, Somerset, England Marriage: Sir John Symes Abt 1605, England Died: Bef 1658, Frampton Cotterell Parish, Gloucester, England Buried: St. Peter's Church, Frampton Cotterell Parish, Gloucester, England  General Notes: The Visitation of Somerset, 1623: John Symes of Poundsford in com. Som. Esq. living 1623. m. Amy d. of Thomas Horner of Mell co. Com. ---------- **Relating Sir Thomas Horner to the Sims/Symes family: Amy was from a very illustrious family. Her brother, Sir John Horner, was also a High Sheriff and a very powerful politician. He is also the man about whom the poem "Little Jack Horner" was written about; [Probably her father Thomas, see their notes at:  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thesimsfamily/sims/tree/9669.htm] The plum that is mentioned in the poem is an abbey/estate which he inherited. Another of her grandfathers, Alexander Popham, was the judge who presided over the trial of Sir Walter Raleigh. Alexander's wife, Jane Stradling who is your ancestor has ties to the English royal family. Her father was Sir Thomas Horner of Cloford and Mells. Amy was Granddaughter of Sir John Popham, Kt. a Patron of the London Co. of Virginia and descendent of Edward III through his grandson Cardinal Henry de Beaufort and his mistress, Lady Fitz Alan. She is buried at St. Peter's Chapel, Frampton, Cottrell, Gloucester, England. For more info, see sources relating Sir Thomas Horner to the Sims/Symes family: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thesimsfamily/sims/tree/3403.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thesimsfamily/sims/tree/9669.htm