To understand the importance of the philospohy developement it is very important to understand its history. We can of course recognize where Bill Gates came into the picture, but I really do not think the inception began with him so I tend to think, and what I hope to demonstrate is that, the roads travelled has been more then one road of course.

There are many leaders, that we must recognize their contributions to a system that now exists and details a intelinking capabiltity that is now frought with, the attempts at the patent office for applications. Look at Google here and what is understood?

So in demonstating my own philosophical view on information gathered here, what is it I am trying to do?

The issue is a hot bed,and I am trying to learn the difference on the Title on top.

If you understand its importance, then I am saying that what is developed, in terms of communication framework, is free to help recognize a nurtuing enviroment, that is not underminded and influence by corporations and any business who might have a stake in those advertising dollars.

It is not attempt to diminsh their importance, but to make sure developement is, holding a higher principal, in regards to the develoment of the minds and frontal lobe, that arise a direct result of using this form of communication(forum). How so?

Well I have talked about this before in other places.

Sol

Posted by sol on June 21, 2003 at 10:02:22:

In Reply to: Re: What is the Difference between Algorithm and Theorem posted by sol on June 21, 2003 at 06:52:26:

I have been wondering what to call this free model of discusson forum( its code) that anyone can use, and give it some substance and meaning. So I thought I would throw out there a name and ask if any like it or not, or have a better name to apply to this principle.

The Fifth Element, seems appropiate in a numbers of ways.

It makes me think of the fifth postulate of Euclid, as well as the fifth dimension of Kaluza.

In a evolutionary sense and geometrical one, I hope to demonstrate the need for moving towards this principal and recognize, the value of first principles and all the pathways that can be established and have been.

Providing the fifth element, is a power full recognition of what began in the begning as well as what existances in our minds as ideas. Where do ideas come from?

It is much easier for me to provide the groundwork, for developing minds to engage these principals in a most wonderful and creative way, and in nurture, Mothers provide a most valuable frame work for its children:) Fathers hope to instill independance and thinking minds, that these same children, have come out of the home with nurture and growth and Fathers will help to move them beyond.

F theory and Vafa?:)

Sol

Posted by sol on June 25, 2003 at 10:57:06:

In Reply to: Re: What is the Difference between Algorithm and Theorem posted by sol on June 21, 2003 at 06:52:26:

Some issues about Light

I will be sifting through the many links create by Kx21 in association with might be develope as aroads forward in seeking the foundation that all must acknowledge, something beyond patent law can ever exist?

Probabilistic determinations can be immediated, in the clean slate, to which we have allowed the thinking brain a doorway to systems function and creation.

How would such thinking become immediate?

Spin orientations are viable mediums, to computer technologies, that we have moved our thinking to qubits, and how shall we devy up the reductionistic principals of such movements?

Strings speak to this and I have detailed a map. Think of the mandala and the gift, each one is given, when such a idea enters the mind?

Sol
In Reply to: Open Invitation( The Fifth Element) posted by sol on June 21, 2003 at 10:02:22:

'Copyfree & Copyright Free 2003 Open Invitation(The Fifth Element) Sol'

What is this for? Have we identified something? Is there soemthing that is tangible here to even consider viable?

The work is yet to come?:)

So what do we find, out of a principle, that what exists in the beginning, has now made its way to Kx21 and Sol. Kx21 has a position and Sol has a position, and what is trying to be done here?

I need kx21 because he counters everything that I do and he represents the society and all its rule. So what I have to demosntrate, that what is the ideal here, in open forum communication is really free. So up top, I have to post to satisfy Kx21's requirement of open and free copyright. Has this revealed anything yet?

So having provided the notice that Kx21 requires I now wait for the philosophical education that kx21 has, to provide the framework(xyz) What is that?

Sol is the white square and Kx21 is the black squares or vice versa. The probability of all the moves that happen within this board is 64 squares, what roads lead from such dualisms, that we could create a much more complicated world?

So the discussion forum must involve such squares?

Sol

In Reply to: Re: Open Invitation( The Fifth Element) posted by sol on June 21, 2003 at 19:52:07:

So what is the next move?:)How would the forum structure take in all that we have summarized, and find that dualism is created, but by the undertaanding of the light and dark?

By the understading of the photon and the graviton?

The moves and determinations are very dynamical once we realize that energy is very expressive and only by understanding the information at the time of the beginning can we ascertain( where time did not exist?)that moves can be made.

So freedom of patent law recognizes where time does not exist, and where all energy can be spoken from, and we have laid before us the probabilty determinations of all possible pathways? First principles recognizes this.

So the fifth element( this forum structure) is now a interesting scenario in the recognition of where ideas can manifest, and gives a direct result in discussion possibities.

The mama brane reocgnizes where its children as bubbles, will leave the brane home, for happier hunting grounds and wil take with them the dualites of all that has been nurtured and given in growth longitudal and tranverse in the very movement of growth, to become( its own bubble) a adult, that exists between the mother and Father.

The third possibilty of any union is? We are back to the beginning then, and a cycle?

Sol

Posted by sol on June 26, 2003 at 06:28:06:

In Reply to: The Fifth Element and its Archetecture posted by sol on June 22, 2003 at 06:58:42:

In Kaku's preface of Hyperspace, page ix, we find a innocent enough statement that helps us orientate a view that previous to all undertanding, is counched in the work of Kaluza.

In para 3, he writes,

Similarily, the laws of gravity and light seem totally dissimilar. They obey different physical assumptions and different mathematics. Attempts to splice these two forces have always failed. However, if we add one more dimension, a fifth dimension, to the previous four dimensions of space and time, then equations governing light and grvaity appear to merge together like two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. Light, in fact, can be explained inthe fifth dimension. In this way, we see the laws of light and gravity become simpler in five dimensions.

Hope it helps the understanding of what the fifth element means, and all the time we are still speaking about the energy here, not as a understanding of the aether, but of what that missing mass means.

Sol

Posted by sol on June 27, 2003 at 20:36:39:

In Reply to: Re: The Fifth Element and its Architecture posted by sol on June 26, 2003 at 06:28:06:

Hyperspace, by Michio Kaku Page 84 and 85,

"To see higher dimensions simplify the laws of nature, we recall that any object has length, width and depth. Since we have the freedom to rotate an object by 90 degrees, we can turn its length into width, and its width into depth. By a simple rotation, we can interchange any of the three spatial dimensions. Now if time is the fourth dimension then it is possible to make "rotations" that convert space into time, and vice versa. These four-dimensional "rotations" are precisely the distortions of space and time demanded by special relativity. In other words, space and time have mixed in a essential way, governed by relativity. The meaning of time as being the fourth dimension is that time and space can rotate into each other in a mathematical precise way. From now on, they must be treated as two aspects of the same quantity: space-time. Thus adding a higher dimension helped to unify the laws of nature."

I hope it becomes clear here where the understanding of the first dimension, the string, is a point, and not a singularity, recognizes the expression from which all things must begin from. What is U(1)?

The fifth element is a expression directly of U(1)and as fifth dimensional understanding, the circle becomes complete?

What does spin one, mean for a photon and what does spin two mean for a graviton? Any corrections for sure.:)

Sol
Posted by sol on June 27, 2003 at 23:13:24:

In Reply to: Re: The Fifth Element and its Architecture posted by sol on June 27, 2003 at 20:36:39:

If you begin in U(1), you must end up in U(1):)

Kaluza takes us back to this point, and asks us to remember what energy means.

What is the 720 degree rotation and inside/outside of this movement,and we have the understanding of the Calabi Yau?

With this we have understood the computational value mathematics has supplied, in this marriage, to have demonstrated a real visualization for us, and what has this meant?

I have detailed the understanding of energy in movement and we have undertsood the graviton in expression?

Now the understanding comes close to interpretaion of what the Fifth Element means. It is a code for a forum commnuity, that supecedes all patent law, in the creation of a algorithm.

In that forum(the fifth element), it is recognize that energy exists for us all, that it is also expressed, in means and ways that is quite diverse. Admission to the code would have implied recognition of the source?

Based on this model of expression and the nature of strings(its evolution)one should understnd then how consciousness partakes of the expression of energy, and sends it into discussion.

That energy, U(1) is free to everyone, and the algorithm must speak to that.

I would appreciate any comments or questions regarding this. I am currently active in trying to find this means( the algorithm) that will follow the structure(architecture I have laid out).

I have demonstrated a philosophy, by showing the evolution of the internet. How might one see its evolution once it is understood that consciousness has immediate consequences?

Every action and thought has revealed itself to a dynamical brane( brain)? The forum will immediately detail the energy in expression:)

If nothing else, it all makes for a good story:)Is there a writer not busy? Kip Thorne and Sagan needed a good working device for the show, Contact and the time machine:)

What is the time machine mean, in the relation to space and back again?:)

Sol
Posted by sol on June 30, 2003 at 06:57:54:

In Reply to: Re: The Fifth Element and its Architecture posted by sol on June 27, 2003 at 23:13:24:

Recognize's the "source". How many in the physics of, recognize this?

Pelastrian referred to a few and so have I. David Deutch is not the least of these, but one of many who understand the spacetime fabric. Look for these inferences, and you will learn something of the views that are being expounded.

In the history of the internet and devlopement(lets look at Gromov here.)

How could two different roads have been developed, Microsoft and Linux OS and we all of a sudden recognize these two pathways?

One is based on Patent Law and Copyright and the other is based on Patent Law and Copyright, yet one is restrictive in terms of how the nergy is moved through it( Microsoft ownership?) and the other, how energy ismoved through it(Linux system), yet the kernel is past from one owner t the next.

What I am suggesting, is a base algorithm that precedes both, yet folows the Linux system of Openspace.

Thus I have initated the idea here in the spacetime fabric calculation as viable means of instantaneous expression of all matters, and the recognition of the source.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Sol
Posted by sol on June 30, 2003 at 06:43:19:

In Reply to: The Spacetime Builders in the Fifth Dimension posted by sol on June 30, 2003 at 06:02:47:

Like Pelastrian, and the views to which he has applied pelastrian movement, is the ability, in a fifth dimension exercise, that is paving the way, for us tominterpret movement of those grvaitational fields.

I have referred to a method, that I am calling the Fifth Element, as a computatinal method based on, the understanding of monopole spin orientations. As a method of describing the grvaitational field of the moon, as a example. As describing the dimensions of superstring theory.

What this does, is allow us to not only construct the view of the fifth dimension, but also helps us to construct the language that is necessary, for LIGO and LISA, as these gravitational waves are considered from their source.

In this way cosmologically, the energies needed to understand that fifth dimension(as detailed in this post) have become th eexpressions of the early universe. Allows us to reconstruct the geometrical expression, that begins from the "source", U(1), and moves outward, as Em and gravitational fields determined, in the oscillations.

Again, the source is a instantaneous feature that is being described here and follows the strict logic of geometry.

Like Pelastrian, I ave developed the perception of the spacetime fabric, that is very fluid(topologically) and dynamical(mooreglades word). Yet we have met with the issues of Quatum Mechanics.

If we are to understand Einstein's famous equation, we must understand, matter-energy->curvature of spacetime.

From this comes the understanding of the progression of the logic that has been used in superstring theory(dimensions 1 to 5) that we have understood in dynamical movement, of the string to brane and 10 dimenisonal theory that now is faced with M theory and 11 dimensions.

So having moved through these dynamical features and integrating the standard model in the following U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3) we get a glipse of the relation to dynamical movements of the energies, that we are describing rotations, contained within a sphere.(Any help here would be appreciated)

Here the understanding of the bubble as a viable model, now opens up, on the topic of bubble nucleation that we are now entetaining issues of the fifth dimension and perception.

Does this post qualify, as a thesis statement? I have not gone to any acreddited schools and did not make it past GR 10, and even in those years, I just did not listen:)I am hoping to make up for that now and was just wondering:)

Sol

Posted by sol on June 28, 2003 at 07:29:24:

In Reply to: Re: The Fifth Element and its Architecture posted by sol on June 27, 2003 at 23:13:24:

Thank goodness for DocN, and his views and speculations, about what could be? He provides fuel( energy) to move forward the probabiltiy of, and here on another plane, dimensionally(topological understanding)? Don't forget the function of the metric, and the mathematics(2d):)

There is symmetry in what I am saying.

Computationally, the code(fifth element) will be immediate.

The spin orientations will tell us this?:)

Sol
Posted by sol on June 25, 2003 at 20:09:16:

In Reply to: Re: Quantum Evolution(Spin wave Technologies) posted by DocN on June 25, 2003 at 14:34:20:

DocN,

Truly, you never cease to amaze me:)

This link is a simple exercise in understanding something, about the level to which dimension can be referred, and here in the views, I speak about Gauss and Faraday and Maxwell. Einstein included all three, for obvious reasons:)

The function of the metric is specific about distance.

How would we understand that difference had we not moved our considerations to area above two people talking? Has it become more complex in chaotic understanding, that we can now see and understanding the hyperdimensional relevances , as we are being shown in this site?

Okay, so what use on a computational level could we have ever discerned the capabiltity of the Friedmann equation?

Part of the language development of LIGO and LISA, will be the undertsanding of the uniquensss of the various stages(fields) you have demonstrated by bringing this link for consideration.

The last post I have in the gravitational field(engaging the field)speaks to this understandng of mapping the moon, its gravitatinal field, and how would this take place?

I'll stop for now Doc, but I hope the significance is understood when we engage that field articulation, as it has been in this website. I give highmarks to the developer.

Much to consider here and palette of experience although simple in the drawings is very good.

The monopole consideration, would have been specific in the spin rotation. How would they measure the gravity field?

Mooreglade will see its significance immediately:)

Sol

Posted by sol on June 25, 2003 at 11:38:57:

In Reply to: Re: Engaging the Field posted by sol on June 25, 2003 at 11:26:56:

These guys are keeping a watchful eye on the udertsanding of the physics of:)

Do a google search. What is Spin wave technology? There are links within this forum that requires me to go back and retrieve them.

Simultanety is a important question about two spheres and the relationship, about the information on one, revealing the position of the orientation of the other.

What does a spin orientated sheet look like? I have shown this as well, and these movements(spins) were defined?

I needed strict guidance, and Dickt was most instrumental in helping to orientate a proper view ,as well as Doc, in our conversations.

Sol

Posted by sol on June 24, 2003 at 14:17:09:

In Reply to: A Few Light Questions 2: The posted by OsherDoctorow on June 24, 2003 at 12:05:19:

Osher

There goes Osher and Sol strolling across a field, deep in conversation. The words indeed seem confined to the words and constructions they make, but just for a brief moment Sol and Osher move there considerations, above this conversation to look at it from a different perspective.

Life is like that sometimes:) We are so engrossed in life, that we forgot the bigger picture of what we are doing and affecting, all around us.

Imagine seeing the entire globe(earth) for the first time?

Up until that time we have been the people on the ball, working the issues of parallel lines, and only now, does it truly make sense from that global perspective?:)

Sol
Posted by sol on June 25, 2003 at 11:26:56:

In Reply to: Engaging the Field posted by sol on June 24, 2003 at 14:17:09:

Osher,

Consider this for a moment?

If we had moved our perception above the field of converstaion, what would you ave attributed the field too?

There are classical definitons of the word "field"? Might we have engaged Roman minds?

Well the perception is leading, in the sense that we might have discussed metric points here, and the distance between, that we might have also engaged gaussian interpetations of higher dimensional understanding