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Why should I be the only one wasting time looking at eye candy?
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Maximillian Hell: (Commenting on: "MB: At what point do patterns become so simple they are no longer patterns? How about just talking about a blow job? How does just talking about one make it any different from weaving it into some pattern?"):
There are non-patterning techniques: quoting (fastseduction.com) and sexual
accelerators (on
Maniac's site). There is a brief example of quoting in the movie "Two Moon
Junction," which someone on ASF once recommended as a good PU movie. Of
course, if you are just talking about it, you don't have all the NLP tricks:
pacing and leading, future pacing, embeds, etc. I guess it all depends on how
much stock you put into NLP.
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Stephane: (Commenting on Nathan, from private email: I wonder if you could
share some of the techniques and processes that you use for overcoming nervousness
and shyness as these are
issues that I am having particular difficulty in resolving. I have started learning
about NLP and have read a lot about the swish pattern and the Compulsion Blowout
but I am unsure as to how to apply it.
Do you think you could post descriptive information about how these can be applied?
I am very interested in this and although I have had success it is fairly minimal."):
Shyness is easy to overcome when you realize that women really aren't scary.
That's all it is. You don't need a blowout & you don't need a swish.
I could describe or even do NLP with you to get you over your shyness, but it's
alot easier than you think.
Your problem of 'shyness' could be summed up like this: You think women are
scary. So step one for you is to say THAT instead of 'I'm shy'. Step 2 is to
realize they ain't scary. In fact, most of THEM are afraid of YOU! To get you
to realize they ain't scary, try scaring THEM for a while. That'll teach you!
Try sneaking up on a woman and going "BOOO!!" and scaring the pants
off her!
If you don't want to do that, then at least have a little fun entertaining yourself
with such outlandish thoughts. It'll loosen you up.
Make a game out of it. Practice putting yourself in a good state (in other words,
relax, soften your eyes, and smile) and just LOOK at women. If you just give
yourself permission to look at women with a smile in your eye, and don't look
away when they notice you, it will teach you exactly what you have been trying
to learn your whole life: Most women are extremely shy and insecure, so you
don't have to be.
The thing with shyness is in getting the person to see the truth and to realize
that girls aren't scary. Think about it....if you actually just SIT in a bar
and LOOK at a girl, they get scared : ) Try it! Go to a bar, order a drink,
and sit at the far end of the bar.
Doesn't matter what you look like, just sit there and put on a warm, friendly
smile, nothing spectacular, and LOOK AT THEM. When they (if they) look at you
back, just maintain your friendly smile and keep looking at them. See how long
it takes for them to look away in TOTAL SHYNESS!
You'll be amazed. It's THEM who are shy, not you!! That's the lesson that you
have to teach shy people.
If they return the friendly smile back and look open, I pounce. If they look
bitchy, forget it, and if they look at me with fear, I'll take that too : )
Otherwise, I don't want her, because the only thing I'll be able to do to her
is fuck her, and I really DO want more than that.
(Commenting on Nathan's comment from private email: "I will be visiting Montreal next year, so maybe we can catch up sometime and you can demonstrate your techniques on myself to see if we can get results."):
It's not a question of 'IF' with me. When someone comes in to see me for a
consultation, I never give up. If it takes one hour or 100 hours, you're gonna
sit down and you're gonna change (or die while I'm trying).
Especially for something as stupid as shyness! Send me your worst clients, I
dare all of you. Find the most shy person you can think of and bring him to
me. I'll get him talking to girls and having fun if it kills me. It usually
only takes me a couple of minutes anyway.
I'm good with shyness because it's so easy. You guys are thinking it's hard,
but it's one of the easiest things in the world to get over. So come.
This is how I advertise. I dare you to come in : ) heheh
(Commenting on: "Mark B.:"But being as hot as she is she has all the trouble with men fulfilling her needs. So I talked to her for about 2 hours about her unfulfilled needs and here is what she said."):
They need us more than we need them....
(Commenting on: "Mark B.: I need a guy who will take charge and make the
decisions, not tell me what to do but be more assertive in terms of what he
wants so that the pressure
is off me
- I need a guy who tells me what he wants rather than waits for me to figure
it out
- I need a guy who will focus just on me and not other women, I need to feel
special that way that I am the only one - I need a guy that I can talk to and
who will give me some direction and advice as to what to do and where to go
- I need someone who will understand me and really listen to what I have to
say
- I need someone who likes to have sex and who can last and do oral as well
as every style
- My biggest complaint about men is they do not take enough leadership but wait
for me to do things
- I want a guy who can stand up to the world and follow his own lead rather
than be a door mat for others
So really it seems it does not take much."):
I wanna meat ur sis........anyone who knows THAT MUCH about me deserves to meet me....
(Commenting on: "This is about keeping a woman, not getting one. I've
been thinking about this lately and here are my thoughts: For the women I date
I am like a drug. As a drug, I am
probably most like heroin; where as, I think most guys are more like cigarettes
or, even worse,
the nicotine patch."):
It's why we like you.....you're such a conceited bastard....what's not to like? : )
(Commenting on: "I on the other hand do nice special things when she's
already happy (and
not when they are mad - I don't reward them for drama). In NLP speak, I get
her to a 9 on the 1-10 scale of making her feel special and happy, then I do
something that moves it to a 12. I'm an unbelievable high. Then I don't see
her for a while and I pick up other women or I don't call her for a week...
That is the low. This just makes the high that much more desirable. They say
heroin addicts spend the rest of their lives trying to match their first high.
The women spend their time trying to make sure I will give them another high."):
You have it so figured out it's scary!
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Zvi:
I've reached a point that I no longer think in terms of "techniques".
Yes, there are things that I happen to do with practically every women, since
I've learned from experience that it works, but I don't think of it as a technique.
It's like my learning to dance. I've learned many techniques and I worked hard
on my form, but on the dance floor there are no techniques.
You go with what you feel; the techniques are already integrated and have become
organic.
Cliff's Comment: I think you are absolutely right - every woman posts their own unique challenges but there are a lot of similar elements and there are some things that work consistently. That sounds like a good direction for a discussion - what do you do that you pretty much do with every woman you desire that works on a consistent basis?
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Leo:
(Commenting on: "Mystery: A good opener so you can fall into these convo
threads would be good. The whole point of the opener is to start in on a group
and convey that you approached for the CHAT and nothing more. "Looks like
the party's over here. : ) I'm curious, have you seen the movie Poltergeist?
Do you think it was based on reality or all fiction?" You've come to
entertain yourself. Not to pickup the girl... WHAT TIME IS IT is not an opener.
It's a Pick Up line. And, therefore ... so is THOMAS. Boy, can I rant."):
I think that any artificial opener is a pick up line. Actually, whatever you
say, I don't think that any girl would think that you just approached for the
"chat", unless you're a gay or just weird. They know *exactly* why
you are talking to them. I mean why the hell would anyone come to a club to
ask girl for her opinions about Poltergeist? Yeah right, "just to chat".
I think the best way is to behave is like if you already know them. Girls still
would know *why* you approach them, but at least it's more natural and creates
this funny assumption that you already know each other. That you're not a stranger
with pretentious "openers". Just start talking as if you would do
it with your old friend or relative. "So what's new?" The answer can
also instantly indicate if you are wasting your time or not.
Most girls will say "Not much" with different variations.
Some will then ask "What's new with you?" which means she accepts
the game and actually is willing to talk to you. It also shifts the whole situation
instantly: now SHE is actually asking you questions (she "approaches"
you). Then you can lead the convo anywhere you want (I just came from Amsterdam,
I just watched Poltergeist again, etc.) Some girls will say "just chilling
out/having fun/looking for my friend/bored," etc. which can also help you
develop the convo into desired direction. Some will actually start telling you
what's new. She actually will allow you into her world right away. And some
will let you understand that you are wasting your time just by the way they
say "not much" or "nothing". Fast and easy. (BTW, more openers
of this kind are welcome.)
Another great opener is actually your excellent suggestion of giving girls a high-five. It's not only funny and assumes that you know each other, but also assumes everything that high-five conveys (that you have a joint "project", or have just agreed on something, or cracked a good joke, etc.)
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Mark B.:
New boyfriend little sister update. She took the guy back after he kept calling
her back. Once again persistence and perseverance seems to have won the day.
This time he is not making the same mistakes and she feels better about him.
Cliff's Comment: As for the perseverance and persistence, I think you have to add in that how it is done is critical. There are so many stories of guys keeping after women and the women just trying to figure out how to get rid of these guys (or being scared of them) that you cannot ignore that element of it.
MB: I find when I eat Quaker Oats Oatmeal, the longer cooking one 10-15 minute cooking time I get the hardest and long lasting erections ever. I feel like I can go and go and go forever on that stuff. There is something highly potent in the stuff. Check it out. It's good for a great performance and they keep coming back for more.
I strongly suggest a book called "The Complete Player, The Psychology
of Winning Hockey". Before you question the relevance of this book in this
section, let me explain. The book is not about techniques of playing the game
but more about the mental aspect of being successful. The more I read the book
the more parallels I began to see between having the proper mental framework
for being a great hockey player and being a great PUA and having a great mental
attitude for anything else that entails work and the possibility of obstacles
along the way. So much is written about techniques and what to do but little
is written about the mental side of being a PUA except maybe for Ross' SS. For
anyone with some intelligence you can easily extrapolate what the author suggests
from being a hockey player to being a great PUA.
Here are some bits of info:
The importance of goal setting and how that can keep you on track and focus.
Techniques of visualization and mental imagery where you imagine yourself scoring,
i.e. getting a number, a date, fucking, etc. He suggests you visualize yourself
scoring 50 times per day, you can see yourself getting a number, or a date 50
times per day.
How to stay relaxed and deal with nervousness How to stay positive in the face
of adversity How to deal with droughts
The importance of always shooting no matter how may times you've missed How
to pump yourself up using key motivating words for yourself How to deal with
nervousness if you are an introvert or how to pump yourself up if you are an
extrovert
The importance of going for it and not holding back and how to do it well How
to prevent yourself from over or undergoing what it takes to succeed The importance
of mental practice and preparation. For a PUA this could involve practising
a walk-up with your friends or with a female friend and then applying it to
real life.
I strongly suggest you pick this up and then draw the parallels between the world of sports and that of being a PUA. After all, scoring with HB's is just like throwing a touchdown, hitting a home run or putting the puck in the net.
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Assman:
(Commenting on: "Flying Dutchman's Panama Beach televised PU and follow-up
interview idea):
I don't think spring break cities/events are the best places for your taped
pickups. The girls at these places are attention hungry and love to tease, they
are not there for sex. Don't get fooled by MTV into thinking Panama Beach during
spring break is one long sex orgy. Also the sex ratio is like 5 to 1 in the
men's favor. You do not have the element of surprise, girls are hit on constantly,
and expect it, although much of it is "hey baby, how you doin" and
"show me
your tits" so a PUA can make an impression, with the proper expert approach.
Panama Beach is full of AFC's, just check out http://www.salon.com/it/feature/1999/03/11feature.html
most of these guys have no clue how to pickup.
A high percentage of the girls at these spring break events seem to be exhibitionists,
or the atmosphere causes them to be more uninhibited. They will pose for pictures
with your arm around them, their tits exposed or your tongue in their mouth,
so if you want easy KINO, spring break can work.
My point is that you should look for more ordinary everyday beach situations
to film, not "events".
(Commenting on: "NightLight9:Kiss Openers This the opener where I just walk up and kiss the girl with no verbals."):
Ahh, my favorite topic, -Aggressive openers- Ass grabbing, breast fondling,
the much discussed Kiss openers here on Cliff's list, and the jewel in the crown
of shock openings, the crotch grab. Total non-verbal Kino openers are the mark
of the beast, you gotta be demon possessed to try them, I have yet to be exorcised
of this demonic urge to grab those lovely young things. For those who are scared
of the tactic (the smart among you) you should use some words before
or during the "hit" as this will make you appear less of a rapist.
You can fool around with Ross Jeffries crash and burn experiments, you can have
fun and test countless variants of the Mystery method, but never be cavalier
with Assman antics, be prepared to pacify the women you will upset, it can be
as simple as saying "sorry, I lost my balance, I was in a car accident
2 days ago, and my knees are still wobbly" - this is best for those who
are most offended, deny that you grabbed her on purpose. For the ones who are
shocked but not angry, you can stay with the program, launch into a hypno induction,
an SS pattern, ask her if she believes in 'Mystic Energy' emanating from her
body with the power to heal (while waving your hands around her ass, directing
the flow of her aura) - as Mystery might do, or be cocky and funny like Sisonpyh.
Doesn't much matter, just make sure you're prepared, never stand there silently,
take control and direct her emotions.
Someone asked who do these direct approaches work best on? Older, younger, etc.?
In my experience, you can never tell who it will work on, some go ballistic,
while some trance out on contact, you can't judge by age, or by perceived character/personality
or any other measure. With aggressive kino openers, be prepared to be surprised.
I was at a hotel this past weekend to sarge in the hotel bar, it was near empty,
but the ballroom was hosting a singles dance for older professionals 40-50 year
olds (some even older), not my type, but yet some of these women were well preserved
and dressed to the nines. I decided to prey on the little lambs milling about
the corridors and lobby. I wasn't too particular, my first and only, had a tired
run down face, but large c cups and smooth long legs propelled
me. She's about 5'6", I towered over her, rubbed her ass while my other
hand controlled her shoulder, my face was three inches from hers, I looked intensely
into her eyes, smiled and said, you're perrrrfect... you're mine, I'm going
to take you to the outer limits of cerebral excitation, move you into states
of satisfaction unknown, and then....show you the door to divine insights and
lay on your head a crown of glory. - Then I kissed this 40 something and led
her to a booth in the bar, yapping more B.S. all the way, there I indulged in
a full course of kino, got her e-mail and left for greener pastures. Sometimes,
it's real easy.
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Dwacon (Seasons Greetings -- hope at least some of you got to stuff a stocking!
http://www.dwacon.com/xmas/MerryChristmas.html):
Bounced Czech...
I was doing my usual routine at the gym where I noticed this HB... kind of a
blonde Julia Roberts... and found it surprisingly easy to converse with her
(given the typical standoffishness of the Washington DC crowd). It turns out
she is from the Czech republic, not long in this country. We had quite a long
chat which culminated in my getting her phone number.
So, we make a date to see a movie and have dinner. Well, we got to the theatre
early so had a sandwich at a nearby stand. There I did some connection patterns
and time distortion and she seemed to be taking it all well. She kept bringing
the conversation over to sex... how her parents gave her condoms at 14 and encouraged
her to experiment with her boyfriends (remind me to make travel plans to Czechoslovakia).
Anyway, we got to the theatre and she sat down next to me and shivered. I put
an arm around her and she pulled away and said, "You are a player and a
seducer!" I wasn't quite sure how to react to that... so my gut instinct
was to put on the hurt puppy dog look and she got all apologetic and said, "Sorry
that was mean of me to say that... in my home country, the women go after the
men. The men are not aggressive." Later, she put her leg up against mine
and her shoulder against mine. At this point, I'm lost, not sure what my next
move should be.
Anyway, the movie is playing and she reaches over and puts a gummy bear in my
mouth. I do the same. We're watching the movie, sharing a soda, taking turns
sipping through the straw... and I'm thinking okay, maybe this was only a test...
but did I pass?
Later, we're she decides she's tired and cancels our original dinner plan.
We're talking and she says she was hurt by the breakup of her last relationship
and wants to take things slowly. So I reply, I understand...
and five months from now, when we're totally comfortable with each other, you'll
feel so safe and connected with me... and at that point you'll look back at
tonight as being the start of it all. Her reply, "Why do you try to sell
yourself so hard?"
D-OHH !!!
Obviously, my SS is backfiring. Or maybe her brain translating my English into
her native Czech caused the patterns to lose their punch?
The evening ended without so much as a kiss or a handshake... and she told me
she was discussing me with her gurlfriend so I imagine that this date will be
treated like the hashbrowns at the Waffle House.... scattered, smothered, splattered,
eviscerated, sub-atomically dissected and fried beyond recognition.
I think maybe I'll hold off calling her and just wait to see her at the gym...
then fly by the seat of my pants depending on how she presents when I see her.
This was a strange one, fellas. I think I need a drink...
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The following are all recommended but clicking on the links and buying from
them doesn't send any money back here (it is also recommended that the sponsors
of these sites consider setting this up -- from the little experience I have
had since I started the commercial section a couple of weeks ago, I think you
are missing a lot of business by not doing this) http://www.speed-seduction.com/
- The # 1 source; read the free newsletters & get the basic course.
http://www.trucor.com/ - Major Mark's site, the place to learn hypnosis and
about married women
http://www.essential-skills.com/ - learn anchoring, tonality, rapport, goal
getting, etc.
http://www.davidshade.com/ Give women incredible pleasure get David Shade's
Manual
http://www.fastseduction.com/ - great resource, a must visit http://www.sosuave.com/
- lots of free materials, many good ideas and articles http://www.mindcontrolmanual.com/
- seduce men and women through the power of the mind
http://www.oscarbruce.com/ - All his books deal with perusasion, manipulation
and a mild form of seduction. Books like School for Scoundrels focus on getting
your way with people and getting them to see things your way.
http://www.pickupguide.com - Maniac High's PUA Archive http://www.seductionnow.com
- This site has a lot of links and it contains pretty much all that an aspiring
PUA needs to know.
Get on Mystery's Lounge - send him an email at [email protected] (note
this new email address) with REQUEST MEMBERSHIP in the subject line.
Include your REAL name, your experience, background in the PUA, some online
PUA's who can vouch for you (references), and a real pic of yourself. If you
do not wish to give this REAL information, don't join. Only the PRO's are in
there anyways - we discuss lots of stuff but it's the REAL pix of our conquests
and the fact that we don't HIDE who we are to each other that makes it appealing.
MANY of the members Mystery has personally sarged with.
The rule is simple don't fuck up anyone's game. If you can abide by that and
have a track record for contributing, then that's basically good as gold. Pix
are a requirement, however. The Lounge is in many ways an EXTENSION of Cliff's
List and is not an alternative. You don't have to be a PRO, but you MUST play
the game. If you are only WANTING to ONE DAY chase skirts, please don't bother
joining.
http://www.mysterymethod.com/ - Mystery offers MM in-field training with his
3 day workshop, Sex Magic in several cities. Learn how to put women under your
spell by Mystery himself. Need to learn how to approach groups of people and
have solid material to fill the silence? Click now for more info & to sign
up.
Playerware which is designed specifically for men who like to date and interact
with a large number of women. The program is essentially an electronic chick
organizer. It contains features such as contact management, photo storage, an
electronic journal, a sophisticated rating and comparison system, date/interaction
tracking, as well as other unique features. Visit the site and you can get a
40 day free trial. Full registration is currently only
$15. http://www.playerware.com/default.asp?refid=10
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New Links to be explored (WE NEED THESE REVIEWED!): 1) The website reads as
follows and we need someone's review of this: "Impress everybody! Make
your life happen on purpose! Matthew Whiting an English and Psychology graduate
from Canterbury University and later a graduate of The National Academy of Performing
Arts, has created this revolutionary step-by-step training system which will
give you the means to becoming irresistibly attractive. Hence enabling you to
gain the relationship and life that you want. Whether it is on stage or in real
life we all know the "x" factor when we see it! But can we produce
our own individual "x factor"? In this book Matthew Whiting's radical
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to: Master these personal strategies to become more Charismatic: · Learn
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· Being a successful leader
· Learning confidence
· ...and a lot more...
Master these personal strategies for more Passion: · How to be funny
· Leaving a lasting impression
· How to utilize the power of speech
· Extraordinary kissing
· Flirting - a delightful, innocent, and respectful way to play with
each other!
· ...and a lot more...(18 Chapters in total!) This book is jam-packed
with tonnes of information, (185 A4-size pages). It is written in a tongue-in-cheek
manner which is easy to follow, and you are sure to enjoy. Once you experience
the marvelous changes that Matthew Whiting enables you to make, you can shape
your relationships and other life circumstances exactly as you'd like them to
be." http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades 2) How to create sexual
chemistry! This one looks interesting -- we need a review!
http://www.attractwomennow.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi/Cliffslist 3)
Welcome to CheekyCherry.co.uk, home of what has been called the bible of 'attracting
women, keeping them and sleeping with them'.
http://www.cheekycherry.co.uk/Main_categories/seduction_and_dating/dating_guide.html
4) Courses for women to seduce men!
http://www.ihrt.co.uk/seductionsystems/text%20gals.htm 5) Guys Guide to Girls
- A guide to relationships. How to overcome shyness and understand your partner...
http://www.philipov.com/guys1.htm 6) Wally's Seduction Tips for Desperate Bachelors
http://www.wallyandmurk.com/wally/sedution/Wallymag.html 7) Help with seduction
- for women who want to seduce men.
http://www.seducehim.com/
8) The website reads as follows and we need someone's review of this: "Ladies!
Never date a stranger unless you've checked him out first!
Fortunately, a basic background check is an easy thing to do, via the telephone
and the Internet. In just a matter of minutes, you can find out a great deal
on your own about any potential date (or even your fiance' or husband) using
the simple, free background check techniques described in our new "how-to"
manual.
CHECK HIM OUT FIRST! "Check Him Out! - The American Woman's Guide to Background
Investigations" guides you through the entire background check process
using clear, nontechnical language. You'll be amazed to learn that there's a
lot that can be done just by using the telephone intelligently!
Without even touching a computer, you can usually verify someone's name, address,
age, occupation, and even marital status over the telephone if you know which
government public records office to call and what information to ask for. "Check
Him Out!" is written for you -- the American woman with no knowledge of
public records and background checks, but with a need to do some quick basic
checking. It's easy to follow, and while it won't make you a seasoned "gumshoe,"
it will make you quite knowledgeable about the subject and will teach you all
you need to know to conduct a thorough basic background check on your own --
plus, it will show you where and how to get competent, reasonably priced help
if you later decide you want a more complex, in-depth background check done.
All this for $11.95 is hard to beat!" http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/washres
9) For those of you interested in being a bigger man, check out: http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/yourown/bigdickie.htm
10)What Every Man Should Know About Women! Learn the secrets to getting more
dates
than you thought were possible in the year 2001. What works, and what doesn't
work. How to spend less money and less time, to meet more women, and get more
dates. Self-Improvement skills for single men is what this material is all about!
Don't waste your time and money, get the facts on how to find Love efficiently
and effectively! Tired of not getting Lucky? Luck is when preparation meets
opportunity.
These Articles are guaranteed to teach you how to get and stay prepared, and
how to use the Internet to find more dates than you thought possible.
The information in these Articles will produce Ten Times the results of any
professional dating service. This material includes everything you need to get
own track. You need not purchase any other books. Our Total price for everything
is only $19.95 with a full
refund guarantee, if not 200% satisfied that this material will pay for itself
many
times over. http://www.howmengetdates.com/ 11) A long time subscriber to these
emails, Kenrick Cleveland was one of Ross Jeffries first teachers. These days
he is well known as the author of Max Persuasion, a course designed to help
people in all their pursuits in life that require the ability to persuade. I
have seen many reviews highly recommending his products but we could use one
for this list in relation to seduction. You can check it out
at:
http://www.maxpersuasion.com/cgi-bin/content/clickthru.cgi?content=Cliff604
What you should do is click on this link and then sign up for his free email
Influence Tip newsletters.
12) Suspect your spouse of cheating on you? Check this out http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/spouse1
13) Girl Patao: Learn how to talk to gals and get them wet DURING the conversation.
How to turn a 15 minute chitchat into a hot one-night stand.
How to avoid creating the wrong chemistry most men screw up with.
How to set-up the situation so that THEY will invite you over to their pad for
fun!
Improve your style, learn what to wear and where to go where women outnumber
men!
How to pin-point women that want to get into a one-night stand.
This is an online book also, focused on one night stands.
http://hop.clickbank.net/?CliffsList/devang1 14) Sex, Truths, Myths & Lies:
How to get magical responses - even standing ovations... everytime you make
love! Discover the Secrets Behind Great Sex...and turn your bed into more than
just a place to sleep! Discover: How to set off "continuous" orgasms
in a woman and in a man! How to enjoy the extreme pleasure derived from G-Spot
stimulation (both men and women). How and where to touch a woman to set her
"off" like a firecracker! How and where to touch a man to fill him
with uncontrollable passion and desire!
How to rekindle the hot passion of a relationship gone sexless. How to gain
the love and devotion of any man or woman. How to seduce the man or woman of
your dreams. How to guide your fingers to the ultimate "hot spots"
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15) 101 AMAZING SEX SECRETS
The Secrets of Meeting, Dating & Seducing Women Where To Meet Women
What Women Look For in a Man
Proper Appearance and Grooming
Tips To Men From Women On the First Approach Flirting Tips That Will Help You
Score
How to Read Her Signals.
Meeting Women Online Your Best Bet!
The Internet’s Best Online Personals
Where To Go on Dates
20 Dating Rules For Men
A Little Erotic Talk
II. 101 steps to having a good relationship
50 Most Romantic Things To Do For Your Love One
The meaning of Flowers and how to pick one III. The Secrets of Amazing Foreplay
How To Kiss Like a Pro
How To French Kiss
Male and Female Erogenous Zones
How To Give an Erotic Massage
Exploring Her Nipples
Using Your Hand on Her
Finding Her Elusive G-Spot
Cunnilingus: Do It Right Or Don’t Do It At All!
Helpful Clit Tips
Finger Techniques That She'll LOVE!
All About Analingus
Foreplay Do’s and Don’t’s
IV. The Secrets of Great Sex
Sexual Positions
Thrusting Techniques To Make Her Scream!
15 Things You Should NEVER Do in Bed!
5 Surefire Ways to Make Her Orgasm
Triple Her Orgasms!
Initiating Anal Sex
Top 15 Fantasies to share with your partner V. The Secrets of Penis Power &
Sexual Stamina Introduction to PC (Kegel) Exercises
PC (Kegel) Exercises
End Premature Ejaculation
More Ways To Last Longer In Bed
How To Be a Multi-Orgasmic Male
Increase Your Ejaculation (Cum Like a Porn Star) Improve the Flavor of Your
Semen
Overcoming Erection Problems
All About Viagra.
VII. The Secrets of Achieving Sexual Power Mastering Self-Confidence
$27.95 at http://hop.clickbank.net/?CliffsList/digitsoft
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