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Mystery:
Here's your TIP for the day: clothing stores are BUMPIN' this week. Exploit
this fact by going ALONE to them to "shop". Open a 2 or 3 set (even
if guys are in the group) with, "Hi. (smile.) You know who you look like
...
shopping experts. For Christmas, my niece wants ... a pony. Which isle should
I start in for that?"
(Commenting on: "Secondly, here are a few interesting links (copied from Mystery's Lounge - see below for info on how to get into Mystery's Lounge): http://www.passwordshq.com/ - All the hacked porn you can download."):
Oooh, I got some more off my buddy SiN a few months ago. If you like "the
porn" then stuff your stocking with media from these URLs this holiday
season (LOL):
www.otbm.com (stands for Only The Best Movies); www.worldsex.com; www.sublimedirectory.com;
www.hydroporn.com; www.fuckingfreemovies.com; www.moviesgo.com; www.celebritygo.com;
Ho Ho Mo.
(Commenting on: GoneSavage: Flying Dutchman's post on televised beach PU and
follow-up interview got me thinking. This seems like a great way for PUA's to
collaborate, get feedback, and perhaps create a PRODUCT. PUA #1 approaches a
girl or a set of girls and spits his game. Probably he is being filmed from
a distance. At least he is microphoned so we know exactly what he is saying.
Well, favorable or not, close or not, he has results.
These results can be evaluated by the other PUA collaborators. "This is
where I would have gone kino..." "What if you has said this instead..."
Get it? But this is the fun part, the way I'm seeing things. The girl or group
then gets approached by a cameraman and an interviewer. Here we find out what
made PUA #1's approach favorable or not. "I just felt drawn to him..."
"He just wasn't tan..." all that. Great feedback for PUA #1. But the
interviewer, being a PUA himself, coupled with his social-authority front, may
decide to justify PUA #1 as a great catch, seduce the girl himself, or at least
lead the interview into highly sexual questions. Well, I will go ahead and put
the idea on the table because it's something I've really been thinking about.
If anyone wants to get together and hit Panama City Beach, FL for Spring Break
March 18-24, let's do it. It'd be one thing to get some PUA's together on the
beach, but another thing to DOCUMENT the event, which is what I really want
to do. Besides this one, most of my ideas are pretty outrageous; it's like Girls
Gone Wild meets Jackass meets BangBus or something. We could get some of those
kiss openers on video. The edutainment possibilities are endless."):
Try getting CRAIG in on this. He is great fun to watch work. Track him down. He's in L.A. but I bet he'd loved the vacation to the other coast.
(Commenting on: "Dwacon (Dwacon Entertainment presents: Hillary Clinton's
congressional striptease http://www.dwacon.com):/ I have a friend who hosts
big events in the area, and he invited me to his latest party. I had VIP access
to the club which worked quite well in my favor. I walked in and spotted three
young women (20-somethings) and zeroed in on the cutest one.
Well, her friends got jealous and froze me out immediately, so I quickly got
her number and made plans to see her."):
Consider training yourself using GROUP THEORY. If you approach a 3set, approaching THE ONE (formerly target) immediately will alienate the PEER GROUP (formerly obstacles) every time. So you approach the GROUP and focus on BEFRIENDING (formerly disarming) THE ONE's FRIENDS (formerly Ug's). When you NEG THE ONE, you get the respect of her peers while lowering her self-confidence. From THAT position, you can get permission to 1:1 her and you are free to work your magic.
(Commenting on: "I went over to the bar where I saw a lovely young lady trying to get the bartender's attention. I whispered to her, while doing some kino "the bartender is gay. He must be, how could any man not want to gaze at a beauty like you." Got her number like within 2 minutes."):
I'm curious. What would I rate her? What she a 9+ or a "regular" girl?
(Commenting on: "Later, as the evening progressed, it became more and more icy and the HB I worked on for about a half hour said, "You know, if I weren't already married, you would have had a great chance with me." D-OHH !!! Forgot to check the finger."):
Anything over 25 minutes I force close and move on. As for the ring, I've been
there, man. I try to check more. OR, learn sleight of hand with coins.
Ask to see her ring and "toss" it into the air and have it vanish.
Then you can say, "You are single now." (Be sure to return her ring
to her but tell her to put it in her pocket because you FEEL a lot of STRESS
on it).
(Commenting on: "Speaking of which, I started getting the finger from the women I tried to approach and figured I'd cut my losses and quit while I'm ahead. The liquid nitrogen was flowing freely... to the point where one HB said, "We can't talk to you, I'm waiting for my friend's husband to come out of the bathroom"):
You are learning that approaching girls 1:1 is (respectfully) cowardly. I would
WAIT for a 1:1 situ to change to a GROUP situ (it ALWAYS does ...
women alone are only ALONE for a brief time like when their friends get them
a drink). Wait for the GROUP to condensate and THEN ~~~POOF!~~~ (appear before
the group). You solve a LOT of problems this way.
BTW, why would they say they can't talk to you? Was it because you were a MAN
and they KNEW you were hitting on them? You revealed your INTEREST ...
they KNEW why you were there. Read up on MM technique because there are MANY
solutions already available to your (quite likely) RECURRING problems.
Easily solved stuff though.
(Commenting on: "...although her friend had no ring on and the bathroom was on the exact opposite side of the building. I got to get out of Washington DC... beating this snobbery is like swimming up stream. Sure, you occasionally get to spawn... but the effort nearly kills you."):
Bro ... you are laying pity on yourself. "Let go of your outcome."
(Commenting on: "She then asks me if I mind a woman who is very religious.
I tell her the truth: that I don't so long as she respects my religious and
spiritual beliefs and doesn't try to convert me. Then she tells me that all
the qualities I have enumerated describe her perfectly. At that point I realized
that she had come to the conclusion that I was Prince Charming and so I decided
I had to make things REALLY clear before making any move to close. I then make
my last conditions clear to her. I do something similar to Riker's brilliant
3 rules..."):
Could someone please forward RIKER'S 3 RULES to me at [email protected]. Thanks!
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Michael: (Commenting on: "Tristan: So the lessons I want to point out
in this sarge is that when woman tells you she is deeply religious it doesn't
necessarily mean that she won't have sex before marriage and won't understand
your desire to keep it casual.
Another point I want to make is that it is REALLY important to make it absolutely
clear BEFORE you make the closing move what she should expect."):
I agree, it's not ALWAYS the case, however, in my personal experience, it usually
is. How do you guys go about the ones that *are* very religious and do want
to wait until marriage for sex? Three of the last four or five attempted pickups
of mine have pretty much had this type of personality.
What was working, for me and to a point, was like Tristan said, laying down
exactly what's going to happen as well as to not tell them not to follow their
own beliefs or try to change them. Instead, what I found worked best was to
just offer your view on the things they have such strong opinions on.
I find that most of the girls will be surprised that you're not judging or trying
to change their opinions and will actually try to lure you to do so!
When I see this I just tell them something like: "Most people will try
to argue that their point of view on something is the one and only correct one.
However, I think that I've found the maturity to go beyond my own line of thinking
and see that there's not necessarily only one way to go about things."
You definitely win some "points" in her eyes after she's heard that.
But back to my original question, how do you guys go about seducing the very
religious, "wait until marriage" type of girl?
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Dwacon (Star Trek's "T'Pol" Naked? Dwacon® Entertainment's Sci-Fi News http://www.dwacon.com): I had it explained to me like this:
Washington DC is the center of power. Many women are attracted to and turned on by power. But, at the same time, they are typically made to feel powerless. Their response to this is to empower themselves by dressing up as beautiful as they can, then shooting down every guy that tries to approach them.
This explanation kinda makes sense to me... but then the question is how to overcome this.
I can do quite well when I've got a woman's attention and she is willing to listen... have even melted a couple ice princesses. The only time I saw a good application of patterns and SOM flat-out fail was when I tried to sarge this female cop who said she specialized in interrogations (counter mind control maybe?)
So, if you go to a club and you are getting those Sailor Moon style ice-witch blasts... then how do you do an opener?
I did try the kiss technique the other night just for grins. The woman was taken aback, but softened quickly enough for me to get her engaged in conversation... and the opportunity to trance her out. I noticed, though, that when I kissed her and she kinda stiffened a bit. The bouncers were like on edge as if they were waiting for her to scream so they could toss me out... good thing I had an opener that had her laughing right after the kiss. In the future, however... I may not repeat the kiss opener...
Anyway... any ideas on getting through the tripwires, past the claymores and over the wall of ice?
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Stephane:
(Commenting on that long-ass exchange between Mark and Ross:
You're both right. Ross, you CAN elicit, evoke, anchor, and utilize states of attraction. That's why we're here -- we're all learning to do that. And Mark is right about the fact that if a broad thinks you're disgusting right off the bat, you're probably NOT going home with her tonight! It ain't worth the hassle! It's possible to turn it around, and while SSers are busy trying, I'll be fucking the women who WANT me. There. I just condensed the whole discussion.
And if anybody wants my two cents, you need to be more confident than they
are.
Do that and you won't need a system, you won't need an anchor, you won't need
formal training. You need to trade in all of that shit for a sense of humor
and a dick, and be proud of your sense of humor and dick. heheh. I am finding
out now that it's alot easier than I ever thought...
(Commenting on: "Tristan: "I did her cube and we fluffed about various things."):
Still using the cube, eh? I want to do stats on this 'cube' thing. I want to know how many of you are using it, and what percentage of women actually start to like you because of it. Trist, it must be good if you're STILL using it!
(Commenting on: "She asked me if I was bi sexual or homosexual (many classical pianists are) and seemed very relieved when I said no."):
A woman would never even THINK to ask me this. Don't be so afraid to turn on your masculinity. I know this comment probably stings a little bit, but if a woman ever asked me if I was a homo, I'd have to prove her wrong! I would just grab her and kiss her. "You think I could actually be a fag?" What the fuck could ever make you think that?! Tristan, if you're not directly hitting on her, then why are you talking to her? You have to be upfront with people.
(Commenting on: "So I take her to my place. We're sitting on the couch in my living room. She had told me that she couldn't stay too long."):
"In that case, you better leave now cause I'm getting horny."
(Commenting on:"I took the opportunity to tell her that I was NOT the marrying type, that I was not interested in anything exclusive and long term with only one woman at this point in my life. Of course she said that that would probably change if I met the right one. (And she pointed to herself as she said this, I have to add!)"):
Where do you think Ross gets this stuff! They've been doing it to US the whole time.
(Commenting on:"So I'm thinking that even though she likes me alot, because I'm intentionally telling her the things I know she won't be crazy about, she'll figure out for herself that I might not be the one she's looking for."):
The only thing you're thinking is TOO MUCH! You're gonna drive yourself crazy.
I read that sentence 30 fuckin' times and I still don't understand it!
(Commenting on:"She asks me what I look for in a woman. I tell her about
wanting a
passionate, highly sexual woman who knows what she wants and isn't afraid to
go for it."):
Now THAT I like : )
(Commenting on: "I figure that this is the best moment to be REALLY honest with her."):
NOW is the best moment to be really honest with her.
(Commenting on:"I then make my last conditions clear to her. I do something
similar to
Riker's brilliant 3 rules but I emphasize something a little different. I tell
her (as I look into her eyes) that though I might be in a situation where I
want to passionately kiss a woman, I will only do so if I know she is aware
of who I am, and where I am at this point in my life, and that because I respect
her I would never lie and say that she is the only one I care about only to
have sex with her and never call her back."):
When I'M in a situation where I want to passionately kiss a woman, I passionately kiss her.
You should be fucking her by the time you take her home. Why did you take her home? A salesman has to know when to close the deal. Alot of salesman sell their products ten times before they realize it.
(Commenting on:"Anyways, she stopped at the bra, but it was no big deal.
She told me that
she wants to wait until the next time. My calibration tells me she's sincere.
In fact, she just called me from the subway to thank me for the evening. She
said that she didn't go all the way because she's always believed that it's
best not to skip the main course to get to the dessert. When I told her she
was a hell of a kisser she said "you ain't seen nothing yet!"):
Why did she stop at the bra, and why is that ok? Why does she want to wait? What does she need to know? She's acting like you are immortal. What is she so afraid of? Getting 'hurt'? FUCKING DOESN'T HURT! In fact, it feels pretty damn good.
As the saying goes, they're all whores except your mother and your sister. Many of them can be bought. Remember that. If I offered her 10,000$, she would probably fuck me. How about a million? If she won't fuck me, even for ten million dollars, then there's something wrong with her anyway, because a fuck isn't that valuable.
(Commenting on:"Nevertheless, I'm ready to bet she'll be calling me probably more than I would want and possibly expecting more than I want to give right now. So I'm going to have to tread carefully with this one."):
Just do what you want to do, and no need to tread carefully.
(Commenting on:"Last funny thing about tonight...it's sort of weird to
have a babe telling
me that Jesus loves me right at the same time she's sticking her tongue in my
mouth... maybe I SHOULD go to church more often..."):
She is telling you about Jesus because she doesn't want you to know the truth
that
she loves to suck cock and fantasizes about bad boys all day long...
Tristan! I know I'm rough on you, but I don't bullshit people. I'll buy you a couple of beers next time I see you : )
The other day I told this sexy bitch bartender that she was turning me on.
You should have seen the LOOK on her face! Especially when I maintained eye
contact
with a stupid grin on my face regardless of her 'approval'! She said, sarcastically,
"OH! Lucky me! I'm getting hit on again by another crude ape!"
What would you have said in that situation? Keep in mind that at this point,
I had 3
of her better-looking, physically stronger, and financially wealthier cock-blocks
laughing in my face! What would you do?
I responded,"I'm not gonna sit here all day and try and dazzle you with
my looks OR
my brains! All **I** have to offer YOU... IS A SENSE OF HUMOR AND A DICK!"
After that she was all mine. I'm so much more confident than she is. I never
flinched.
Then I let HER chase ME for the rest of the night. I'll let her suck my cock
when I
want her to, and that's that.
I can laugh at MYSELF harder than anyone else EVER could. After all, I'm only
one step
ahead of a monkey. I'm a MAN. Less hair, more thoughts. If anyone steals that
quote I'm
suing you : )
Cliff's Comment: Steph, you're getting a little carried away here... The trick is to be direct but charming at the same time. Being crude at the beginning is not going to work with women who have class and intelligence. You can be just as forward and direct without being crass.
(Commenting on:"GameMaster: Since 9/11...did you hear that the frequency
of sex is up like
3X since then? We have psychology on OUR side for a change!"):
It always has been on our side. But it's nice, they need our strength more
than ever.
Tragedy is always followed by more need for human closeness. If anyone steals
that quote
I'm gonna sue you! The quotes are flying out of me tonight...
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GameMaster:
I wanted to follow up on the story about Miss Louisiana! I met her online last
week
and we spoke for the first time on Wednesday. I got her number and called her
up and use this line "Hello Cindy......well, I have the face.....now I
have the voice,
and sometimes the voice....can be just as intriguing as the face. Hi this is
GM".
They always say something like "Oh yeah"! We chatted for a while,
laughed our ass off about the whole online thing, and agreed to meet for drinks
on Saturday
but before I let her go I installed my voice and linked it to the place where
she
see's "things of beauty". Trust me, I need all the help I can get.
Anyway, we were both going to Christmas parties and she had this killer outfit
on
with her tits popping out all over the place and I was in my tux and silk vest.
We
were chatting it up and I was getting her values and feeding them back to her,
then
I leaned in and said "Can I tell you something just between you and me
(leaned in
closer and whispered in her ear), have you ever met someone, and you had a picture
of that person in your mind...but then when you met them (sp) they were even
more
attractive than you expected? And there's quality you have that most people
don't
see (backed away and waited for her response which was GIMMME!) "Well I
don't know if you realize this, but you have this amazing spiritual quality
in you, and I don't
mean in a religious sense,although that may be there as well. I'm talking about
something
you feel very deeply about, and it may not be something you think about everyday
but
you know it's there, in a very special place, and you draw strength and comfort
from
it, and it's obvious to me that this is something that is very important in
yourself".
Well, that was about all she could take. From there it was kino city with her
rubbing my
vest, me doing the stealth cock rub on her knee up to her thighs. Cindy was
literally
begging me to go to her party with her but I insisted I had to keep my prior
commitment
to my friend Vickie, who's husband was out of town! I told her "No, I belong
to Vickie
tonight...this will have to wait". We paid the check and walked out and
she took me
by the arm in that way when a southern woman does that you know she's in the
bag.
I took her keys and opened the door and just held her gaze for a moment and
said
"There's something I want you to remember". Then I pulled her to me
and kissed her
very gently at first but then two minutes later she was pinned up against her
SUV and
we were going at each other like a couple of rabid dogs! "Have fun at the
party, I gotta
go".....her reply "I live 5 minutes from here"! Needless to say,
I didn't fuck that up. What
a night...and this is looking like a keeper. Now what to do with the other 3
chicks I
was banging that I also met online? Cindy is in the lead position because she
lives 30
minutes away, therefore no pop-ins, and her office is 5 minutes from my house
therefore
'nooners' on a daily basis should be the natural cure for all that distance
: )
Cindy gave me a GREAT line the other nite while we were in the bar. She took
my hand
as if she was going to read my palm, studied it for a quiet moment and said
"See this line,
this is your love line....and it's pointing right at ME"! Izat beautiful
or what!?!
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Mark B.:
(Commenting on Ethereal:) Your posts on signs are great. Do you have signs for
SWTF (stripper willing
to fuck)?
(Commenting on: "GameMaster: I've experimented with just about every combination
of ammo in
the arsenal and have learned, as most of the guys have, when it comes right
down to
seduction the rule is "the simpler the better".):
MB: At what point do patterns become so simple they are no longer patterns?
How about just talking about a blow job? How does just talking about one make
it any different from weaving it into some pattern?
(Commenting on: "Maxin:I have on many occasions slept with a woman who
I was not initially interested in because she had a great attitude. I have also
had conversations with women who were very attractive on the outside but who
were so fucked up in their way of thinking that I decided there was no way in
hell I'd ever sleep with them... even once.
If you and "everyone you know" are focusing exclusively on the exterior
packaging, then you are in for some seriously bad relationships with women."):
MB: Me too. Sometimes I find that I will see a woman and not find her attractive because I have not seen her full expressions or they way she speaks that can make her more attractive. Once I see her smile or spend some time and see her gestures, she can increase her attractiveness. The opposite is also true. I dated women who where stunning only to be put off by them being too controlling, too loud or too in your face. Hence physical can attract but the personality holds.
My sister is 23 and an HB10. She has been with her current borefriend for over
2 years. He has a 10 inch shlong but she has looked for more than just that
and complained about her being both the man and the women in the relationship
and always having to make all the important decisions in the relationship. She
met another guy by placing an Internet ad as a joke just to see what happens.
She went out with him once but then complained that he was not her type as he
revealed too much about himself although he has money, a great car, looks, a
business. She said that all the good things he said about himself sounded too
good to be true and the bad things were just that, bad. But he did not know
that and kept calling her everyday. Bad right?????? Wrong - after a week of
calling her twice per day and showing interest she is saying "Mark, this
guy is really interested in me," "This guy seems to be lots of fun,"
"This guy is really open, I really like that." This
weekend she left her borefriend of 2 years to be with this new guy. Wanting
to find out what turned her around she said "This guy makes me feel so
comfortable because he is just being himself, no games, he says what is on his
mind and does not care what is the outcome. I feel like I can be myself as well.
We even had phone sex already. He just asked me to put my hand inside my pants
and play with myself and I did. He takes charge and I do not feel like I have
to make all the decisions. For the first time in my life I can breathe and feel
like the pressure is off me." Make your own conclusions.
On another note in my gym there is a guy who everyone would agree is not the
perfect specimen. He has a missing front tooth, a huge beer belly, long unkempt
hair, he is loud and obnoxious and wears dirty clothes. Yet he is a friendly
guy who seems totally unaware of himself and does not hold anything back. He
is rough and callous but in an extremely confident way.
He has four girlfriends in various parts of Southern Ontario. He owns a car
repair shop and allows members of a biker gang to use it for their repairs.
One day the stripper girlfriend of gang member was there to watch him repair
a bike. With her boyfriend gone she kept on pressing her breasts into his face
while flirting. Fearing for his safety if he fooled around with her he asked
her what she thought she was doing. She responded "Don't you like my breasts?"
to which he said "You know I would fuck you so hard that you would squeal
but I cannot since you belong to my friend." He called her boyfriend and
explained what she was doing. He came over shoved her against a wall and told
her to get a grip on herself. To this she suggested she brings him one of her
stripper friends for him to fuck. Next day she came by with a friend and watched
as he banged her brains out. I take two things out of this.
The first is that his attitude does not make him physically appealing but his
level of confidence frees others to be just as confident and free with him as
he is with them. He looks like the type of guy who no right thinking woman would
look at yet he banged one of the hottest strippers. Why? I believe it had to
do with the biker stripper's self esteem. What women would allow herself to
be roughed up, beaten and threatened and go back for more? One that probably
feels she deserves a guy with a missing tooth, huge belly, dirty clothes, etc.
So his attitude freed her and gave her confidence yet his physical shape was
what appealed to her in whatever way that may have been.
Cliff's Comment: This only shows what most of us reading this know for a fact, that your looks are not the crucial element -- your attitude is. Those who have met David know that here's a guy who is not good looking yet you know almost instantly from talking with him that he has the attitude that will draw the hottest women to him like flies on shit.
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David Copeland have been reading these emails for awhile and recently sent me
their Mastery Program Tape series which I have finished listening to. It has
some very good stuff on it and that, in combination with other pieces that you
can pick up here and from the other products mentioned can be a help. For those
who are just starting out learning how to deal with women, this is an excellent
basic daily course to take you through the process of dealing with women. For
those who are more advanced, you should pick up a few good ideas from this set
of tapes.
http://www.howtosucceedwithwomen.com/cgi-bin/at.cgi?a=169700 SEVEN MAGIC WORDS
Comments on this product from Tony B.:
I thought I might drop you a quick line regarding some of the more popular sites
that have been seen within this "seduction community." After seeing
several terrible reviews and "flames" from alt.seduction.fast, I decided
to make a decision for myself based upon my own ideas of what could be offered
on the Seven Magic Words product and after several months of reading great novels
about how to attract women and multiple posts about how women are most attracted
to men, I STILL found the site to be beneficial. After joining the site, I was
happy to learn all the new techniques that I have never seen on any list and
that alone made it worth the money. I am not typically the type of person that
spends money on a site especially a seduction site, I would rather pay for some
audio or video, but the information that was offered was different and unequal
to anything I have seen in the past. At any rate, I know you wanted a review..
and I have actually come to know the owner, and he puts more attention in his
members area than I would expect to see from any other site.
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/smackudown DATING INSIDER Not only does
this next site give you an unconditional 1 year no risk money back guarantee,
but it stands alone and it's program is unmatched. Right now they're doing a
Free Trial period, and I'd take advantage of this while you can. The site reads
"Learn the proven secrets for meeting, attracting, and seducing women.
From A - Z, you'll discover the most advanced techniques for picking up women
ever developed." Check out their Free Trial (before it ends) and you'll
see why their members like this program so much. Click on
http://www.dating-insider.com/international/welcome.html.
How to Lay Girls Guide The ultimate SEDUCTION SECRETS database: http://www.layguide.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=Cliffslist
NEW RECOMMENDATIONS:
I have finished reading The Sexual Key and it is one of the best works I have
read about understanding the language that women respond to. I give this a strong
recommendation and the price is right, too. The book, and/or its companion book,
Gut Instinct (which I will be reviewing) can be downloaded off the net for $39.97
each or $49.97 for both.
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist.sexualkey
THE UNKNOWN! (Not reviewed)
HYPNO-TECH Here's another one which I think has been reviewed here in the past
but I haven't gone through the old emails to check. "Do You Want To Know
A Simple, Two Minute Hypnotic Technique That Lets YOU Secretly Put Any Woman
Into An Instant Trance And Persuades Her To Ask YOU Out?
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/hypnotech ADVANCED MACKING Advanced Macking
has one of the most enticing websites. An updated review would also be welcome.
http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/showsite.verotel?vercode=66629804000000274976
This one also looked pretty interesting. The link for more information on breakups
and loving-styles is http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/Tigress Success Secrets
Our free newsletter reveals it all Money and Personal Finance secrets; Business
& Marketing secrets; Health, Fitness, and Weight-Loss advice; Self Defense
secrets; Memory Improvement tips; Smart Advice on Flirting, Dating, Sex, and
Relationships; Personal Development tips; Communication and Negotiation tips;
Tax Secrets & Loopholes!
Investment and Stock Market tips; and Much More http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/prodeskcom
The Ultimate Guide to Powerful Relationships is only $8.95 and looks very interesting.
Comments, please. http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades Here's a new
one I found which needs to be reviewed: "Guys! Get More Pussy with our
Adult Personals Inside Secrets Guide! Plus! Free Survey Results of Women Using
Personals for Sex The Guide contains the following Inside Secrets Replying to
ads - how to get noticed and get a date for hot sex.
Placing ads - how to beat the competition and get lots of replies How to handle
follow up communication to keep her interested. Examples of replies that worked
on us. You can just copy and paste these into your ads or replies. Saves you
time and increases your chances! A directory of the best websites for meeting
hot women! Sick of chicks who are only into cybersex and nothing else! The Guide
contains a list of the best adult personals sites."
http://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/rscookie.exe?RevShareID=9804000000274976&
returnto=http://www.mysexinfo.com
Secrets of Power Persuasion! A course by Jian Wang to teach you how to write
hypnotic language to make others obey your command.
http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/mrchange (if this doesn't work, try this:
http://www.mrchange.com/?hop=cliffslist.mrchange, but both worked for me) Arte's
New Sex Video is kind of interesting. He shows a lot about playing with a woman's
g spot (which he demonstrates on his comely girlfriend - but I could have done
without seeing your dick, Arte). I will do a more extensive review after I have
watched it again more carefully: http://amos.simonweb.com/loveebook/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=lrec
HERE'S A NEW ONE
Suspect your spouse of cheating on you? Check this out http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/spouse1
FREE PLUGS
The following are all recommended but clicking on the links and buying from
them doesn't send any money back here (it is also recommended that the sponsors
of these sites consider setting this up -- from the little experience I have
had since I started the commercial section a couple of weeks ago, I think you
are missing a lot of business by not doing this) http://www.speed-seduction.com/
- The # 1 source; read the free newsletters & get the basic course.
http://www.trucor.com/ - Major Mark's site, the place to learn hypnosis and
about married women
http://www.essential-skills.com/ - learn anchoring, tonality, rapport, goal
getting, etc.
http://www.davidshade.com/ Give women incredible pleasure get David Shade's
Manual
http://www.fastseduction.com/ - great resource, a must visit http://www.sosuave.com/
- lots of free materials, many good ideas and articles http://www.mindcontrolmanual.com/
- seduce men and women through the power of the mind
http://www.oscarbruce.com/ - All his books deal with perusasion, manipulation
and a mild form of seduction. Books like School for Scoundrels focus on getting
your way with people and getting them to see things your way.
http://www.pickupguide.com - Maniac High's PUA Archive http://www.seductionnow.com
- This site has a lot of links and it contains pretty much all that an aspiring
PUA needs to know.
Get on Mystery's Lounge - send him an email at [email protected] (note
this new email address) with REQUEST MEMBERSHIP in the subject line.
Include your REAL name, your experience, background in the PUA, some online
PUA's who can vouch for you (references), and a real pic of yourself. If you
do not wish to give this REAL information, don't join. Only the PRO's are in
there anyways - we discuss lots of stuff but it's the REAL pix of our conquests
and the fact that we don't HIDE who we are to each other that makes it appealing.
MANY of the members Mystery has personally sarged with.
The rule is simple don't fuck up anyone's game. If you can abide by that and
have a track record for contributing, then that's basically good as gold. Pix
are a requirement, however. The Lounge is in many ways an EXTENSION of Cliff's
List and is not an alternative. You don't have to be a PRO, but you MUST play
the game. If you are only WANTING to ONE DAY chase skirts, please don't bother
joining.
http://www.mysterymethod.com/ - Mystery offers MM in-field training with his
3 day workshop, Sex Magic in several cities. Learn how to put women under your
spell by Mystery himself. Need to learn how to approach groups of people and
have solid material to fill the silence? Click now for more info & to sign
up.
Playerware which is designed specifically for men who like to date and interact
with a large number of women. The program is essentially an electronic chick
organizer. It contains features such as contact management, photo storage, an
electronic journal, a sophisticated rating and comparison system, date/interaction
tracking, as well as other unique features. Visit the site and you can get a
40 day free trial. Full registration is currently only
$15. http://www.playerware.com/default.asp?refid=10
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New Links to be explored (WE NEED THESE REVIEWED!): 1) The website reads as
follows and we need someone's review of this: "Impress everybody! Make
your life happen on purpose! Matthew Whiting an English and Psychology graduate
from Canterbury University and later a graduate of The National Academy of Performing
Arts, has created this revolutionary step-by-step training system which will
give you the means to becoming irresistibly attractive. Hence enabling you to
gain the relationship and life that you want. Whether it is on stage or in real
life we all know the "x" factor when we see it! But can we produce
our own individual "x factor"? In this book Matthew Whiting's radical
new approach to "being irresistibly attractive" will show you how
to: Master these personal strategies to become more Charismatic: · Learn
how to be master of your own intention · Taking action
· Being a successful leader
· Learning confidence
· ...and a lot more...
Master these personal strategies for more Passion: · How to be funny
· Leaving a lasting impression
· How to utilize the power of speech
· Extraordinary kissing
· Flirting - a delightful, innocent, and respectful way to play with
each other!
· ...and a lot more...(18 Chapters in total!) This book is jam-packed
with tonnes of information, (185 A4-size pages). It is written in a tongue-in-cheek
manner which is easy to follow, and you are sure to enjoy. Once you experience
the marvelous changes that Matthew Whiting enables you to make, you can shape
your relationships and other life circumstances exactly as you'd like them to
be." http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/unicades 2) How to create sexual
chemistry! This one looks interesting -- we need a review!
http://www.attractwomennow.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi/Cliffslist 3)
Welcome to CheekyCherry.co.uk, home of what has been called the bible of 'attracting
women, keeping them and sleeping with them'.
http://www.cheekycherry.co.uk/Main_categories/seduction_and_dating/dating_guide.html
4) Courses for women to seduce men!
http://www.ihrt.co.uk/seductionsystems/text%20gals.htm 5) Guys Guide to Girls
- A guide to relationships. How to overcome shyness and understand your partner...
http://www.philipov.com/guys1.htm 6) Wally's Seduction Tips for Desperate Bachelors
http://www.wallyandmurk.com/wally/sedution/Wallymag.html 7) Help with seduction
- for women who want to seduce men.
http://www.seducehim.com/
8) The website reads as follows and we need someone's review of this: "Ladies!
Never date a stranger unless you've checked him out first!
Fortunately, a basic background check is an easy thing to do, via the telephone
and the Internet. In just a matter of minutes, you can find out a great deal
on your own about any potential date (or even your fiance' or husband) using
the simple, free background check techniques described in our new "how-to"
manual.
CHECK HIM OUT FIRST! "Check Him Out! - The American Woman's Guide to Background
Investigations" guides you through the entire background check process
using clear, nontechnical language. You'll be amazed to learn that there's a
lot that can be done just by using the telephone intelligently!
Without even touching a computer, you can usually verify someone's name, address,
age, occupation, and even marital status over the telephone if you know which
government public records office to call and what information to ask for. "Check
Him Out!" is written for you -- the American woman with no knowledge of
public records and background checks, but with a need to do some quick basic
checking. It's easy to follow, and while it won't make you a seasoned "gumshoe,"
it will make you quite knowledgeable about the subject and will teach you all
you need to know to conduct a thorough basic background check on your own --
plus, it will show you where and how to get competent, reasonably priced help
if you later decide you want a more complex, in-depth background check done.
All this for $11.95 is hard to beat!" http://hop.clickbank.net/?cliffslist/washres
9) For those of you interested in being a bigger man, check out: http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/yourown/bigdickie.htm
10)What Every Man Should Know About Women! Learn the secrets to getting more
dates
than you thought were possible in the year 2001. What works, and what doesn't
work. How to spend less money and less time, to meet more women, and get more
dates. Self-Improvement skills for single men is what this material is all about!
Don't waste your time and money, get the facts on how to find Love efficiently
and effectively! Tired of not getting Lucky? Luck is when preparation meets
opportunity.
These Articles are guaranteed to teach you how to get and stay prepared, and
how to use the Internet to find more dates than you thought possible.
The information in these Articles will produce Ten Times the results of any
professional dating service. This material includes everything you need to get
own track. You need not purchase any other books. Our Total price for everything
is only $19.95 with a full
refund guarantee, if not 200% satisfied that this material will pay for itself
many
times over. http://www.howmengetdates.com/ 11) A long time subscriber to these
emails, Kenrick Cleveland was one of Ross Jeffries first teachers. These days
he is well known as the author of Max Persuasion, a course designed to help
people in all their pursuits in life that require the ability to persuade. I
have seen many reviews highly recommending his products but we could use one
for this list in relation to seduction. You can check it out
at:
http://www.maxpersuasion.com/cgi-bin/content/clickthru.cgi?content=Cliff604
What you should do is click on this link and then sign up for his free email
Influence Tip newsletters.
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